BucksRam

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If anyone wants to pass 30 seconds
 

I wouldn't wish what we've gone through on any fan, but after the vitriol we've had from a surprisingly large section of fans from these clubs, and are still getting in some quarters on Twitter, I'd love to see them suffer.....just a bit.  And yes, I know it's not their whole fan base.  I genuinely wouldn't want any club to fold, regardless, but a taste of what we've suffered would sit fine with me.   

I wouldn't wish what we've gone through on any fan, but after the vitriol we've had from a surprisingly large section of fans from these clubs, and are still getting in some quarters on Twitter, I'd love to see them suffer.....just a bit.  And yes, I know it's not their whole fan base.  I genuinely wouldn't want any club to fold, regardless, but a taste of what we've suffered would sit fine with me.   

My view on this, rather than “I wouldn’t want other fans to go through this”, is that perhaps “All other fans should go through this”. It’s the only way everyone will understand, and stop throwing around ridiculous statements about loving other clubs to go bust. I wouldn’t want any other club to go bust, not really, not even those listed above, but a lot of fans from each of those could do with a cold hard dose of reality and humility.

I wouldn't wish what we've gone through on any fan, but after the vitriol we've had from a surprisingly large section of fans from these clubs, and are still getting in some quarters on Twitter, I'd love to see them suffer.....just a bit.  And yes, I know it's not their whole fan base.  I genuinely wouldn't want any club to fold, regardless, but a taste of what we've suffered would sit fine with me.   

I wouldn't wish what we've gone through on any fan, but after the vitriol we've had from a surprisingly large section of fans from these clubs, and are still getting in some quarters on Twitter, I'd love to see them suffer.....just a bit.  And yes, I know it's not their whole fan base.  I genuinely wouldn't want any club to fold, regardless, but a taste of what we've suffered would sit fine with me.   

I wouldn't wish what we've gone through on any fan, but after the vitriol we've had from a surprisingly large section of fans from these clubs, and are still getting in some quarters on Twitter, I'd love to see them suffer.....just a bit.  And yes, I know it's not their whole fan base.  I genuinely wouldn't want any club to fold, regardless, but a taste of what we've suffered would sit fine with me.   

For the record, so am I. 

Agree, FB marketplace is mental.  Stuck a "4 drawer 6' super-king divan bed - base and headboard only" on there a while back, advertised as such, but WITHOUT mattress, collection only.  Several photos attached. I kid you not, these are some of the messages I received:
Does it have drawers? What size is it? Does it have a headboard? Do you deliver? I see it's collection only, I've got a Honda Civic; do you think it'll fit? I don't want the base but can I just have the mattress? Next time I think I'll just make a bonfire.

Agree, FB marketplace is mental.  Stuck a "4 drawer 6' super-king divan bed - base and headboard only" on there a while back, advertised as such, but WITHOUT mattress, collection only.  Several photos attached. I kid you not, these are some of the messages I received:
Does it have drawers? What size is it? Does it have a headboard? Do you deliver? I see it's collection only, I've got a Honda Civic; do you think it'll fit? I don't want the base but can I just have the mattress? Next time I think I'll just make a bonfire.

Similar position @86 Hair Islands, in that I work from home 99% of the time, on a laptop so have had far too easy access to t'internet.  At times I became obsessed with looking at this forum, twitter, NewsNow, DET etc hoping for good news.  And became pretty depressed with the whole thing, compounded by also letting the apparent success of other clubs affect me, and getting more and more bitter at the PL clubs spending £100s of millions on just one player, the likes of Rudiger demanding half a million a week,  when a tiny proportion of that would have saved our club.  Like @BaaLockssays, I could go on too about the detrimental impacts of what's happening in the country, the cost of living, Ukraine etc.  It all affects us in so many ways. 
However, as I've mentioned on here before, in the time we've been dealing with Mel's little leaving present, my family has suffered 3 bouts of covid, my wife's been diagnosed, and beaten breast cancer, my Mum was diagnosed, and beat ovarian cancer (although now dealing with completely unrelated breast cancer - mastectomy this Weds) and my eldest has had pretty bad anxiety issues for which we are seeking medical help.  My best mate lost his father, another his mother.  Many on here have similar challenges, or worse. 
So a while back I took a conscious decision to change my mindset.  Much as I love Derby County, and of course football, I have absolutely no control over what happens there. None.  Family, friends, and of course my own well-being are far more important.  I binned off NewsNow and the DET (not a difficult decision).  I deliberately imposed social media blackouts on myself.  I made myself go out for lunchtime walks.  And it's helped massively.  Yes I still get wound up with the footballing world - it's broken.  We all know that - I suspect though we'd feel less strongly about it if none of what's happened to Derby had occurred.    
All I want to do is focus on the football again, discuss how we played, how we should have clung to that 1 goal lead and why, oh why did we have to concede in the 94th minute - again. I hope by the end of this week, we can all begin to have those conversations again. Until then, I'll focus on my Mum's op this Wednesday, and maybe, just maybe do a little internet search that evening to see if there's a bit of news from Mr Clowes. 
Have a good day all. 

Similar position @86 Hair Islands, in that I work from home 99% of the time, on a laptop so have had far too easy access to t'internet.  At times I became obsessed with looking at this forum, twitter, NewsNow, DET etc hoping for good news.  And became pretty depressed with the whole thing, compounded by also letting the apparent success of other clubs affect me, and getting more and more bitter at the PL clubs spending £100s of millions on just one player, the likes of Rudiger demanding half a million a week,  when a tiny proportion of that would have saved our club.  Like @BaaLockssays, I could go on too about the detrimental impacts of what's happening in the country, the cost of living, Ukraine etc.  It all affects us in so many ways. 
However, as I've mentioned on here before, in the time we've been dealing with Mel's little leaving present, my family has suffered 3 bouts of covid, my wife's been diagnosed, and beaten breast cancer, my Mum was diagnosed, and beat ovarian cancer (although now dealing with completely unrelated breast cancer - mastectomy this Weds) and my eldest has had pretty bad anxiety issues for which we are seeking medical help.  My best mate lost his father, another his mother.  Many on here have similar challenges, or worse. 
So a while back I took a conscious decision to change my mindset.  Much as I love Derby County, and of course football, I have absolutely no control over what happens there. None.  Family, friends, and of course my own well-being are far more important.  I binned off NewsNow and the DET (not a difficult decision).  I deliberately imposed social media blackouts on myself.  I made myself go out for lunchtime walks.  And it's helped massively.  Yes I still get wound up with the footballing world - it's broken.  We all know that - I suspect though we'd feel less strongly about it if none of what's happened to Derby had occurred.    
All I want to do is focus on the football again, discuss how we played, how we should have clung to that 1 goal lead and why, oh why did we have to concede in the 94th minute - again. I hope by the end of this week, we can all begin to have those conversations again. Until then, I'll focus on my Mum's op this Wednesday, and maybe, just maybe do a little internet search that evening to see if there's a bit of news from Mr Clowes. 
Have a good day all. 

Similar position @86 Hair Islands, in that I work from home 99% of the time, on a laptop so have had far too easy access to t'internet.  At times I became obsessed with looking at this forum, twitter, NewsNow, DET etc hoping for good news.  And became pretty depressed with the whole thing, compounded by also letting the apparent success of other clubs affect me, and getting more and more bitter at the PL clubs spending £100s of millions on just one player, the likes of Rudiger demanding half a million a week,  when a tiny proportion of that would have saved our club.  Like @BaaLockssays, I could go on too about the detrimental impacts of what's happening in the country, the cost of living, Ukraine etc.  It all affects us in so many ways. 
However, as I've mentioned on here before, in the time we've been dealing with Mel's little leaving present, my family has suffered 3 bouts of covid, my wife's been diagnosed, and beaten breast cancer, my Mum was diagnosed, and beat ovarian cancer (although now dealing with completely unrelated breast cancer - mastectomy this Weds) and my eldest has had pretty bad anxiety issues for which we are seeking medical help.  My best mate lost his father, another his mother.  Many on here have similar challenges, or worse. 
So a while back I took a conscious decision to change my mindset.  Much as I love Derby County, and of course football, I have absolutely no control over what happens there. None.  Family, friends, and of course my own well-being are far more important.  I binned off NewsNow and the DET (not a difficult decision).  I deliberately imposed social media blackouts on myself.  I made myself go out for lunchtime walks.  And it's helped massively.  Yes I still get wound up with the footballing world - it's broken.  We all know that - I suspect though we'd feel less strongly about it if none of what's happened to Derby had occurred.    
All I want to do is focus on the football again, discuss how we played, how we should have clung to that 1 goal lead and why, oh why did we have to concede in the 94th minute - again. I hope by the end of this week, we can all begin to have those conversations again. Until then, I'll focus on my Mum's op this Wednesday, and maybe, just maybe do a little internet search that evening to see if there's a bit of news from Mr Clowes. 
Have a good day all. 

Thanks @BaaLocks and @86 Hair Islands.  Really appreciate that. Yes it's been tough but I'm under no illusion many have it far worse. 
Love this forum, love this club but the reality is I now choose what I focus on: I remain lucky to have family, friends, work and (screwed knee aside) my health. That's what's important.  
Virtual hug, fist pump, high five to you too. ?

It's plain from above that... regardless of timing... there comes a time in life when something tells you to step back, take stock, and re-evaluate just what really matters, what matters a little bit, and what doesn't actually matter at all ("In the grand scheme of things")!
Of course, those categories will differ for us all, as indeed the actual trigger (and/or triggers), but I suspect it comes to us all at some stage (God-willing that we survive long enough!)
I won't bore you with my own triggers, suffice to say that since 2016, I have viewed DCFC as no more than a hobby.  Mostly enjoyable.  Occasionally frustrating, with the odd millisecond of euphoria thrown in.  But always a hobby.  Never taken too seriously.  Never "allowed" to rile me.
Many other aspects of my life also got "the treatment"... some being escalated on the scale of importance, some being kicked completely into touch, and many more now stand somewhere in between.
When that trigger comes, you know.  You just know!  And the re-evaluation happens, whether you plan it or not!  
xxx ?

Thanks @BaaLocks and @86 Hair Islands.  Really appreciate that. Yes it's been tough but I'm under no illusion many have it far worse. 
Love this forum, love this club but the reality is I now choose what I focus on: I remain lucky to have family, friends, work and (screwed knee aside) my health. That's what's important.  
Virtual hug, fist pump, high five to you too. ?

Similar position @86 Hair Islands, in that I work from home 99% of the time, on a laptop so have had far too easy access to t'internet.  At times I became obsessed with looking at this forum, twitter, NewsNow, DET etc hoping for good news.  And became pretty depressed with the whole thing, compounded by also letting the apparent success of other clubs affect me, and getting more and more bitter at the PL clubs spending £100s of millions on just one player, the likes of Rudiger demanding half a million a week,  when a tiny proportion of that would have saved our club.  Like @BaaLockssays, I could go on too about the detrimental impacts of what's happening in the country, the cost of living, Ukraine etc.  It all affects us in so many ways. 
However, as I've mentioned on here before, in the time we've been dealing with Mel's little leaving present, my family has suffered 3 bouts of covid, my wife's been diagnosed, and beaten breast cancer, my Mum was diagnosed, and beat ovarian cancer (although now dealing with completely unrelated breast cancer - mastectomy this Weds) and my eldest has had pretty bad anxiety issues for which we are seeking medical help.  My best mate lost his father, another his mother.  Many on here have similar challenges, or worse. 
So a while back I took a conscious decision to change my mindset.  Much as I love Derby County, and of course football, I have absolutely no control over what happens there. None.  Family, friends, and of course my own well-being are far more important.  I binned off NewsNow and the DET (not a difficult decision).  I deliberately imposed social media blackouts on myself.  I made myself go out for lunchtime walks.  And it's helped massively.  Yes I still get wound up with the footballing world - it's broken.  We all know that - I suspect though we'd feel less strongly about it if none of what's happened to Derby had occurred.    
All I want to do is focus on the football again, discuss how we played, how we should have clung to that 1 goal lead and why, oh why did we have to concede in the 94th minute - again. I hope by the end of this week, we can all begin to have those conversations again. Until then, I'll focus on my Mum's op this Wednesday, and maybe, just maybe do a little internet search that evening to see if there's a bit of news from Mr Clowes. 
Have a good day all. 

DCFC's woes are just one more current turd in the logpile for me, what with all the other bad stuff happening here and abroad.

It's difficult as at the height of Derby's current problems when liquidation seemed like a real possibility, it would be impossible to deny it consumed my days. Given, I'm 'working from home' and have little to no rigid timescales imposed on me, it's been very easy to be distracted by the mess. I've been lucky in the sense there has been little personal trauma, unlike many of the posters on here who have had a horrid time and I truly wish the best for everyone in their own personal/family struggles. My main concern is simply, what job can I get once I've handed in my thesis this week so I can do nice things with my gf and get a place of my own. Which yes is stressful and at times upsetting, but not in the same league as some posters self-described difficulties. 

I think football can seem like the world, and there are times and moments where it does engulf your life both for good and ill. But, when something tragic really hits home, you realise that yes football is community and to a degree family but the truly important things are at home with family and friends. 

All the best for your loved ones in the coming weeks, months and years @BucksRam. Far more important than anything that happens wrt eleven blokes chasing a ball.

@BaaLocks similar to my headset really. I've mentioned before that  it's not just DCFC that folk have had to endure. We've had an unholy trifecta od Covid, Derby and a war in Europe. I feel pretty fortunate to have not been impacted more significantly but a lot of my friends were struggling even before this and it's been hard not being able to see them as much as I'd have liked, or to help some the way I feel I should. I do love Derby, despite it being a bonkers club in recent years but I feel like the real change I'd like to make is to address the balance of how I spend my quality time. Less bickering with perfect strangers, more living life.
@BucksRam I think I did see you mention some of this stuff elsewhere though forgive me as I don't recall which thread. It does seem that you've had a really tough time of it and for that I'm sorry, but it's heartening that you're already taking steps that I've only just arrived at thinking about. I doff my cap to you sir!
I think reading your post has helped simplify my thinking. Sometimes I get lost in the process but I think for me personally, a lot of the changes that would be immediately beneficial are really quite straightforward and not to be over-analysed. I'm always going to be a Ram nut, but I think recent weeks have made me feel like I'm hiding a little in their ongoing travails and that's something I think I'll address by stepping back and significantly reducing my time spent trawling the site. I'm lucky that I have a lot of friends who I hold dear and look out for me better than I might deserve so it'd be nice just to simplify things and as I said, spend more time with them and my family.
Anyways both, thanks for the replies. All the best! 

Similar position @86 Hair Islands, in that I work from home 99% of the time, on a laptop so have had far too easy access to t'internet.  At times I became obsessed with looking at this forum, twitter, NewsNow, DET etc hoping for good news.  And became pretty depressed with the whole thing, compounded by also letting the apparent success of other clubs affect me, and getting more and more bitter at the PL clubs spending £100s of millions on just one player, the likes of Rudiger demanding half a million a week,  when a tiny proportion of that would have saved our club.  Like @BaaLockssays, I could go on too about the detrimental impacts of what's happening in the country, the cost of living, Ukraine etc.  It all affects us in so many ways. 
However, as I've mentioned on here before, in the time we've been dealing with Mel's little leaving present, my family has suffered 3 bouts of covid, my wife's been diagnosed, and beaten breast cancer, my Mum was diagnosed, and beat ovarian cancer (although now dealing with completely unrelated breast cancer - mastectomy this Weds) and my eldest has had pretty bad anxiety issues for which we are seeking medical help.  My best mate lost his father, another his mother.  Many on here have similar challenges, or worse. 
So a while back I took a conscious decision to change my mindset.  Much as I love Derby County, and of course football, I have absolutely no control over what happens there. None.  Family, friends, and of course my own well-being are far more important.  I binned off NewsNow and the DET (not a difficult decision).  I deliberately imposed social media blackouts on myself.  I made myself go out for lunchtime walks.  And it's helped massively.  Yes I still get wound up with the footballing world - it's broken.  We all know that - I suspect though we'd feel less strongly about it if none of what's happened to Derby had occurred.    
All I want to do is focus on the football again, discuss how we played, how we should have clung to that 1 goal lead and why, oh why did we have to concede in the 94th minute - again. I hope by the end of this week, we can all begin to have those conversations again. Until then, I'll focus on my Mum's op this Wednesday, and maybe, just maybe do a little internet search that evening to see if there's a bit of news from Mr Clowes. 
Have a good day all. 

Similar position @86 Hair Islands, in that I work from home 99% of the time, on a laptop so have had far too easy access to t'internet.  At times I became obsessed with looking at this forum, twitter, NewsNow, DET etc hoping for good news.  And became pretty depressed with the whole thing, compounded by also letting the apparent success of other clubs affect me, and getting more and more bitter at the PL clubs spending £100s of millions on just one player, the likes of Rudiger demanding half a million a week,  when a tiny proportion of that would have saved our club.  Like @BaaLockssays, I could go on too about the detrimental impacts of what's happening in the country, the cost of living, Ukraine etc.  It all affects us in so many ways. 
However, as I've mentioned on here before, in the time we've been dealing with Mel's little leaving present, my family has suffered 3 bouts of covid, my wife's been diagnosed, and beaten breast cancer, my Mum was diagnosed, and beat ovarian cancer (although now dealing with completely unrelated breast cancer - mastectomy this Weds) and my eldest has had pretty bad anxiety issues for which we are seeking medical help.  My best mate lost his father, another his mother.  Many on here have similar challenges, or worse. 
So a while back I took a conscious decision to change my mindset.  Much as I love Derby County, and of course football, I have absolutely no control over what happens there. None.  Family, friends, and of course my own well-being are far more important.  I binned off NewsNow and the DET (not a difficult decision).  I deliberately imposed social media blackouts on myself.  I made myself go out for lunchtime walks.  And it's helped massively.  Yes I still get wound up with the footballing world - it's broken.  We all know that - I suspect though we'd feel less strongly about it if none of what's happened to Derby had occurred.    
All I want to do is focus on the football again, discuss how we played, how we should have clung to that 1 goal lead and why, oh why did we have to concede in the 94th minute - again. I hope by the end of this week, we can all begin to have those conversations again. Until then, I'll focus on my Mum's op this Wednesday, and maybe, just maybe do a little internet search that evening to see if there's a bit of news from Mr Clowes. 
Have a good day all.