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Mansfield away in League Cup.

Mansfield away in League Cup.

Mansfield away in League Cup.

Always a special memory when we play Charlton as this was the first game I took the flag too. Monday 15 December 2008.
Fast forward 14 years.....

Always a special memory when we play Charlton as this was the first game I took the flag too. Monday 15 December 2008.
Fast forward 14 years.....

Always a special memory when we play Charlton as this was the first game I took the flag too. Monday 15 December 2008.
Fast forward 14 years.....

Always a special memory when we play Charlton as this was the first game I took the flag too. Monday 15 December 2008.
Fast forward 14 years.....

I do indeed run my own travel business, thank you for the shout out Boycie lad.
If anyone wishes to reach me you can on the various social media platforms...
However, I have opted against selling any WC packages. I know and work with the supplier who is offering these packages. Basically for those that don't know, you can only get hotel rooms in Qatar once you have a match ticket so sure you can imagine that the prices are inflated already. Also packages to other areas of the UAE.
As a football fan, obviously why I am here, I hold ticket prices dear to my heart. I can get access to all the tickets for the Champions League Final, World Cup Final blah blah but the prices dont sit right with me so I do not advertise them.
Some of the prices I have seen, not so much for the early stages of the WC but for other games are just ludicrous. I just dont wish to be in that game when I actively promote twenty is plenty! LOL!
Thanks again for the shout out Boycie.
 

Always a special memory when we play Charlton as this was the first game I took the flag too. Monday 15 December 2008.
Fast forward 14 years.....

Always a special memory when we play Charlton as this was the first game I took the flag too. Monday 15 December 2008.
Fast forward 14 years.....

Always a special memory when we play Charlton as this was the first game I took the flag too. Monday 15 December 2008.
Fast forward 14 years.....

Always a special memory when we play Charlton as this was the first game I took the flag too. Monday 15 December 2008.
Fast forward 14 years.....

Always a special memory when we play Charlton as this was the first game I took the flag too. Monday 15 December 2008.
Fast forward 14 years.....

I can understand that. I worked in the charity sector for 35 years, where everything is done democratically. I was paid to represent the views of a whole sector at the highest local planning level for 20 years and it was always a fine balancing act, responding to very diverse views and putting over the majority opinion, even when I didn't agree with it! It was also very time consuming and I spent a lot of time listening to people so that when I was put on the spot at meetings to give an instant response without time for consultation, I had a good instinct for the 'right' path to take.
I also made myself unpopular with the very people that funded me at times to the extent I wondered whether we'd become de-funded. Thankfully we didn't. 
It's a difficult role and I only found out what people had really thought of the job I had been doing when I retired.
For this reason, I have become involved with Rams Trust, because, they are the democratically elected representatives of the supporter base, recognised by and registered with the FSA. They have elections, a set of rules with clear aims and objectives, and a mechanism that enables them to have dialogue with their members in ascertaining views that they take to supporters group meetings. All of this takes time, effort and moves much more slowly than the instant @twitter generation demands, which is why it is so frustrating to some. 
I was interested to read @David's views on this, having been thrust into that representation role by virtue of the great work he did creating this forum. Boy did he get some stick for it, despite every attempt to seek a range of views whenever he was called to meetings.
I wonder whether Nick the flagman  has as much stick when he attends? I suspect not. It's almost like the more democratic you attempt to be, the more stick you get for it.
Anyway, I'm sad David packed it up because I thought he did an excellent job, but all the reps have been placed in impossible positions at times by the club recently.
I quite like the fact that the Supporters Charter Group is a wide variety of individuals, so that people have a range of options about who and how they lobby for a voice. If some of the choices are a bit less democratic than others I can live with that, even though it is my choice to choose the democratic option. 
We're all Derby, aren't we?
 

Hmm interesting about the march.. My input for what its worth on that...
So a chap called Ryan and a couple of other lads I know (top man is Ryan and was well out his comfort zone!) decided to organise the march. I got wind of it and offered my help and guidance through having contacts with the police, club, radio derby, BBC East Midlands Today etc etc...
We spent the couple of weeks prior speaking to the police (very helpful) and once all agreed I put Ryan in touch with Radio Derby and East Midlands Today. Bit of campaigning on twitter, facebook etc...
I take absolute zero credit for it, I played my part in getting Albatross on board and all the flags down there but just oiled the wheels for Ryan to be speaking to the people who he needed to speak to get the word out there and get the movement going. This was his baby and deserved the praise and credit for it.
So as far as I am concerned no twitter town council meeting was responsible for the march and quite disheartening for Ryan and others should they see this post.
Very much like PR. I do have issue with Mr Bourne and took to twitter this evening to pass my comments on. He never replied publically but took the conversation to private message. No problem with that but perhaps this should have been the first port of call with the original issue.
BAWT and particularly Nigel have been fantastic at the meetings, as have all the supporters groups. We never asked for this and this was certainly not the reason why the charter was setup all these years ago. It is what it is though.
The last thing we need is other groups being called out for politics. As Angie said, for christ sake if you dont like them then dont follow them! We are all adults here..

Hmm interesting about the march.. My input for what its worth on that...
So a chap called Ryan and a couple of other lads I know (top man is Ryan and was well out his comfort zone!) decided to organise the march. I got wind of it and offered my help and guidance through having contacts with the police, club, radio derby, BBC East Midlands Today etc etc...
We spent the couple of weeks prior speaking to the police (very helpful) and once all agreed I put Ryan in touch with Radio Derby and East Midlands Today. Bit of campaigning on twitter, facebook etc...
I take absolute zero credit for it, I played my part in getting Albatross on board and all the flags down there but just oiled the wheels for Ryan to be speaking to the people who he needed to speak to get the word out there and get the movement going. This was his baby and deserved the praise and credit for it.
So as far as I am concerned no twitter town council meeting was responsible for the march and quite disheartening for Ryan and others should they see this post.
Very much like PR. I do have issue with Mr Bourne and took to twitter this evening to pass my comments on. He never replied publically but took the conversation to private message. No problem with that but perhaps this should have been the first port of call with the original issue.
BAWT and particularly Nigel have been fantastic at the meetings, as have all the supporters groups. We never asked for this and this was certainly not the reason why the charter was setup all these years ago. It is what it is though.
The last thing we need is other groups being called out for politics. As Angie said, for christ sake if you dont like them then dont follow them! We are all adults here..

Hmm interesting about the march.. My input for what its worth on that...
So a chap called Ryan and a couple of other lads I know (top man is Ryan and was well out his comfort zone!) decided to organise the march. I got wind of it and offered my help and guidance through having contacts with the police, club, radio derby, BBC East Midlands Today etc etc...
We spent the couple of weeks prior speaking to the police (very helpful) and once all agreed I put Ryan in touch with Radio Derby and East Midlands Today. Bit of campaigning on twitter, facebook etc...
I take absolute zero credit for it, I played my part in getting Albatross on board and all the flags down there but just oiled the wheels for Ryan to be speaking to the people who he needed to speak to get the word out there and get the movement going. This was his baby and deserved the praise and credit for it.
So as far as I am concerned no twitter town council meeting was responsible for the march and quite disheartening for Ryan and others should they see this post.
Very much like PR. I do have issue with Mr Bourne and took to twitter this evening to pass my comments on. He never replied publically but took the conversation to private message. No problem with that but perhaps this should have been the first port of call with the original issue.
BAWT and particularly Nigel have been fantastic at the meetings, as have all the supporters groups. We never asked for this and this was certainly not the reason why the charter was setup all these years ago. It is what it is though.
The last thing we need is other groups being called out for politics. As Angie said, for christ sake if you dont like them then dont follow them! We are all adults here..

Hmm interesting about the march.. My input for what its worth on that...
So a chap called Ryan and a couple of other lads I know (top man is Ryan and was well out his comfort zone!) decided to organise the march. I got wind of it and offered my help and guidance through having contacts with the police, club, radio derby, BBC East Midlands Today etc etc...
We spent the couple of weeks prior speaking to the police (very helpful) and once all agreed I put Ryan in touch with Radio Derby and East Midlands Today. Bit of campaigning on twitter, facebook etc...
I take absolute zero credit for it, I played my part in getting Albatross on board and all the flags down there but just oiled the wheels for Ryan to be speaking to the people who he needed to speak to get the word out there and get the movement going. This was his baby and deserved the praise and credit for it.
So as far as I am concerned no twitter town council meeting was responsible for the march and quite disheartening for Ryan and others should they see this post.
Very much like PR. I do have issue with Mr Bourne and took to twitter this evening to pass my comments on. He never replied publically but took the conversation to private message. No problem with that but perhaps this should have been the first port of call with the original issue.
BAWT and particularly Nigel have been fantastic at the meetings, as have all the supporters groups. We never asked for this and this was certainly not the reason why the charter was setup all these years ago. It is what it is though.
The last thing we need is other groups being called out for politics. As Angie said, for christ sake if you dont like them then dont follow them! We are all adults here..

Hmm interesting about the march.. My input for what its worth on that...
So a chap called Ryan and a couple of other lads I know (top man is Ryan and was well out his comfort zone!) decided to organise the march. I got wind of it and offered my help and guidance through having contacts with the police, club, radio derby, BBC East Midlands Today etc etc...
We spent the couple of weeks prior speaking to the police (very helpful) and once all agreed I put Ryan in touch with Radio Derby and East Midlands Today. Bit of campaigning on twitter, facebook etc...
I take absolute zero credit for it, I played my part in getting Albatross on board and all the flags down there but just oiled the wheels for Ryan to be speaking to the people who he needed to speak to get the word out there and get the movement going. This was his baby and deserved the praise and credit for it.
So as far as I am concerned no twitter town council meeting was responsible for the march and quite disheartening for Ryan and others should they see this post.
Very much like PR. I do have issue with Mr Bourne and took to twitter this evening to pass my comments on. He never replied publically but took the conversation to private message. No problem with that but perhaps this should have been the first port of call with the original issue.
BAWT and particularly Nigel have been fantastic at the meetings, as have all the supporters groups. We never asked for this and this was certainly not the reason why the charter was setup all these years ago. It is what it is though.
The last thing we need is other groups being called out for politics. As Angie said, for christ sake if you dont like them then dont follow them! We are all adults here..

Hmm interesting about the march.. My input for what its worth on that...
So a chap called Ryan and a couple of other lads I know (top man is Ryan and was well out his comfort zone!) decided to organise the march. I got wind of it and offered my help and guidance through having contacts with the police, club, radio derby, BBC East Midlands Today etc etc...
We spent the couple of weeks prior speaking to the police (very helpful) and once all agreed I put Ryan in touch with Radio Derby and East Midlands Today. Bit of campaigning on twitter, facebook etc...
I take absolute zero credit for it, I played my part in getting Albatross on board and all the flags down there but just oiled the wheels for Ryan to be speaking to the people who he needed to speak to get the word out there and get the movement going. This was his baby and deserved the praise and credit for it.
So as far as I am concerned no twitter town council meeting was responsible for the march and quite disheartening for Ryan and others should they see this post.
Very much like PR. I do have issue with Mr Bourne and took to twitter this evening to pass my comments on. He never replied publically but took the conversation to private message. No problem with that but perhaps this should have been the first port of call with the original issue.
BAWT and particularly Nigel have been fantastic at the meetings, as have all the supporters groups. We never asked for this and this was certainly not the reason why the charter was setup all these years ago. It is what it is though.
The last thing we need is other groups being called out for politics. As Angie said, for christ sake if you dont like them then dont follow them! We are all adults here..

Hmm interesting about the march.. My input for what its worth on that...
So a chap called Ryan and a couple of other lads I know (top man is Ryan and was well out his comfort zone!) decided to organise the march. I got wind of it and offered my help and guidance through having contacts with the police, club, radio derby, BBC East Midlands Today etc etc...
We spent the couple of weeks prior speaking to the police (very helpful) and once all agreed I put Ryan in touch with Radio Derby and East Midlands Today. Bit of campaigning on twitter, facebook etc...
I take absolute zero credit for it, I played my part in getting Albatross on board and all the flags down there but just oiled the wheels for Ryan to be speaking to the people who he needed to speak to get the word out there and get the movement going. This was his baby and deserved the praise and credit for it.
So as far as I am concerned no twitter town council meeting was responsible for the march and quite disheartening for Ryan and others should they see this post.
Very much like PR. I do have issue with Mr Bourne and took to twitter this evening to pass my comments on. He never replied publically but took the conversation to private message. No problem with that but perhaps this should have been the first port of call with the original issue.
BAWT and particularly Nigel have been fantastic at the meetings, as have all the supporters groups. We never asked for this and this was certainly not the reason why the charter was setup all these years ago. It is what it is though.
The last thing we need is other groups being called out for politics. As Angie said, for christ sake if you dont like them then dont follow them! We are all adults here..

Hmm interesting about the march.. My input for what its worth on that...
So a chap called Ryan and a couple of other lads I know (top man is Ryan and was well out his comfort zone!) decided to organise the march. I got wind of it and offered my help and guidance through having contacts with the police, club, radio derby, BBC East Midlands Today etc etc...
We spent the couple of weeks prior speaking to the police (very helpful) and once all agreed I put Ryan in touch with Radio Derby and East Midlands Today. Bit of campaigning on twitter, facebook etc...
I take absolute zero credit for it, I played my part in getting Albatross on board and all the flags down there but just oiled the wheels for Ryan to be speaking to the people who he needed to speak to get the word out there and get the movement going. This was his baby and deserved the praise and credit for it.
So as far as I am concerned no twitter town council meeting was responsible for the march and quite disheartening for Ryan and others should they see this post.
Very much like PR. I do have issue with Mr Bourne and took to twitter this evening to pass my comments on. He never replied publically but took the conversation to private message. No problem with that but perhaps this should have been the first port of call with the original issue.
BAWT and particularly Nigel have been fantastic at the meetings, as have all the supporters groups. We never asked for this and this was certainly not the reason why the charter was setup all these years ago. It is what it is though.
The last thing we need is other groups being called out for politics. As Angie said, for christ sake if you dont like them then dont follow them! We are all adults here..

I can't see the point of in-fighting. They are who they are, if you don't like it, un-follow them. 
 

I also thought to begin with the #savederbycounty campaign looked very good and I even promoted it a fair few times on here, when there was a lot of negativity on here or bickering I really thought it might help people through those moments. Thing is as time went on, something seemed off to me when listening in to their town council meetings. After the march they seem to take full credit and were patting themselves on the back (that’s how I felt listening to it anyway) when a lot of work went in through radio derby, DET and supporter groups as well to raise awareness beforehand. Then the meetings just kinda fizzled out with a few half baked ideas that never went anywhere. If I’m being cynical, some PR people can now show that social media campaigns ‘work’ so they can sell their marketing prowess elsewhere.
Could be wrong on that and I would’ve kept that thought to myself usually but by having a go at bawt, who have atleast tried to keep fans informed through this, then I think he deserves a bit back. 

Not read the replies but going to give my opinion on how I see things going..
I have seen alot of hate for the admin, much of which I disagree with, frustrating yes but if you remember my post back in May of last year I said this was a huge mess to sort out and would end up like this. Anyways all in the past....
Clearly admin need a set amount to sort this out. No one at the minute is offering that. Its pretty obvious said buyers dont want to pay that and you can see why - its dead money sorting out someone else's mess along with the loss of 6m quid if we go down in lost revenue, not exactly a pretty acquisition is it. We can all argue the potential is there but we haven't been promoted in 15 odd years and having an amazing fan base will only get you so far.
So I guess the bidders are going to need to pay what is needed if they want the club. I also suspect that they will be negotiating a lower rate on the purchase / rent of the stadium. This has been complicated imho because its separate to the football club, what a great decision that was. This to me is why there is a delay. If they had agreed to the admin demands a PB would have been announced.
I suspect if we dont get anywhere then of course, Mr Morris is going to have to do something with the stadium, lower his price thus offsetting the money going to the creditors. Whether he will or not is anyone's guess. Who wants to keep the poker face the longest I guess.