Minneapolis Town Tractor

Up down up down, we got out the elevator before the doors closed.      Isn't there something fundamentally wrong when a team that finishes 20 points ahead of another in a league, gets their whole season derailed in the course of one game.    Being nothing but impartial for one minute, just doesn't seem fair.

Let's be honest, I got sympathy for any club name (in this league particularly) that fails a promotion.      It's easy to say when you've made it and can sit back and look on at others endeavors or lack of but it's true.     I caught the Derby score last weekend, you got screwed by a poor referee or decision and missed out by a point or something.      That's got to be tough, sincerely, do sympathize.       This league is horrible, the thought of a team getting so near and missing out due to one incident or afternoon, you got to show certain empathy.

Sheffield Owls / Wednesday whatever you call them, at one time seemed even money for an automatic promotion but endured a strange loss of form at critical time and folded.     Some fan here caused a ruckus or something.      Not to condone any behavior but can kind of see where the frustration comes from.

 

 

45 minutes ago, caymanram said:

So many ifs and buts and ultimately relies on us winning our games …

 

BUT… with the hope that we beat Pompey then we really need Ipswich to beat Barnsley on Tuesday…. If they do then all Ipswich need at home on Saturday in a fairly easy game is a draw (sure they will win) to ensure autos … that means the Wendeys have nothing but (home) pride to play for against us on the last day - and may not risk or may rest some key players…

So long as they still got a chance of auto promotion they'll be breaking their ass to take three points from it next game.    Even if we were to win there's no guarantee of a promotion.      Exeter and Fleetwood seem so simplistic to comprehend, it's like almost six points on a plate for us but unfortunately it doesn't quite work that way.

You think it's hard in the play-off zone, you should try the automatic places, it's tougher than a two dollar steak.      Plymouth are a real obstacle but as much as we berate them / cause an issue, got to realize they're actually a very resilient team.

Caught your score today.    McGoldrick was never as free-scoring when with us.     Going to be interesting to see if Derby, Bolton even, makes it or not.  I guess that's the enthralment of the league.      Like it or not where we are there's been some stellar games and situations arisen and still to conclude.  

 

Actually the standard of match officiating in League One isn't the best.     We've been on the wrong end of questionable decisions often, I guess all teams in the division have at one time or another been screwed over by a wrongful call.    You can chalk it up to incompetence, inexperience or whatever.    Thing is the caliber or standard of refereeing just isn't the same as in the leagues above.    

Saw some mention of time wasting by ourselves from today also.   I think that's largely uncharacteristic of ourselves.    We don't really make a habit of it.      Guess it was a game of such magnitude, we had a  1 - 0 lead or whatever and took to what  (Derby fans) may deem 'unsportsmanlike behavior' in order to access or help a win.       I apologize on the players behalf, as before, that's not really our style.  

What to add to this ?     All right, I'm sorry Derby didn't get the result you wanted.     Nothing disingenuous, I realize how frustrating this league is, how tough it is to get out and back to Championship league status.

If I may add, there seems little ambiguity that Derby are encountering problems as we speak.    I don't think you're promotion material right now.    The team is suffering too many setbacks, dropping too many points to feasibly challenge or worry the elite places.

From what I could ascertain your team had chances today.   A goal ruled out maybe, McGoldrick nearly scored - relief he didn't - and Walton made some important stops, but I got to be pleased with our character and determination in the eventual victory.

A few weeks back I and Ipswich were viewing the play-offs as eventual finish, a small chance of second place.     A series of odd defeats to other automatic promotion candidates has turned it on it's head and now the chance is there once again to go up automatically.  

Not saying we will, no season is finalized until the end kick of a final game but I got to be hopeful something now will really work for us and a certain accomplishment will be achieved by the end.    Sheffield W really making a mess of things also it would seem.  

I got to be kind of confident of taking something from the trip there.        Say again our desire seems strong at the moment, we score goals almost at leisure, don't concede too many also and there's attacking potential and alternatives probably more than any other opposition team in the league.

This game is fickle, all things are subject to change.    It's a crap shoot you never can tell what will occur on any given day.    You look at other promotion contenders today and just recent, they're dropping points left and right to teams you wouldn't expect.      I would worry about McGoldrick, an ex-player of ours who never really lived up to expectation - spent a whole lot of time on the injury roster - and former players have a tendency of scoring against us but we'll see when the time arises.    

McKenna will play 1 in attack - there is no other way - maybe 4-2-3-1  being a favorite, it's utilized 90 per cent of the time, but it's effective even if not all fans are for it.     If Derby County are to get a result from the event simple math being you need to restrict us scoring opportunity and close down the main players of the team particularly in midfield i.e. Burns, Morsy, even Chaplin, who by rights is a center forward, not a midfield player.      Hirst to start attack, he's done well in recent starts.   I wish he and Ladapo would feature together from the off but McKenna is a stubborn SOB who found a certain approach and won't change alter or amend it.   

I hope it's a good contest, the fans at Pride Park get value for money, players from both club names put on a show, and we see a competitive game with minimal referee intervention.  

Two, three minutes away from a damn fine result.     All right, Sheffield W really need to drop points at every opportunity from our perspective but guess they showed a certain resilience in pulling that score back from the brink of defeat.      Maybe that late saving point could be some impetus in further games ahead, you know offer some push, but it's too premature to imagine final league positions.

They have however, dropped points in recent games to opposition teams they really should be taking full victories from.     Thought a few weeks back they were an absolute cert to take promotion from this league such were the progress made, form of club name etc.     Only the very few with the strongest nerve will grab or gain promotion out of League One.      Guess the ultimate question is who can hold it together the most.   

Our next game is against you but got to wait two weeks because of international soccer before it.  Damn nuisance as we're really hitting targets now and don't need no break under such momentum.     I'm kind of perplexed by County's erratic form in the last few weeks. Obviously we'll be looking to take you out such is our position on the verge of an automatic promotion.      Your team appears to be struggling, it's a shame we got you next up as our own team is looking real promising right now.     It would be churlish to predict a Town victory in front of your own fans but I got so much confidence in our abilities right now.     The league status doesn't lie but other than Sheffield I feel we probably are the best team this division can offer right now.    

I understand defeat in this league, it's no fun being beaten like today particularly a recognized name more established than most others but you got to ask yourself how much do you really want it.     Our success comes from a reliable array of attackers, a goalkeeper that has been arguably one of the league's finest and a manager who knows what he wants and how to get it.    Add to that a certain momentum and belief that a number of other squads seem to lack.     I think the international interim will suit County better, had you played us at the regular schedule I'd be real confident of taking a result from it.       

Yesterday must have been a real bummer for Rams fans.   OK it favors us and say Bolton also but they'll be no gloating from this end.  This league is tough - for want of better words - it's a real nasty division to get out of, maybe like ourselves you thought it'd be easy and we'd make it back at a first attempt.   You know, big club names that were successful in the 1970s and got League Championships to their name.    Unfortunately It doesn't quite work like that.    

I understand the hurt of scores like yesterday, nothing disingenuous, teams like Derby County or indeed Bolton / ITFC don't really deserve or seem out of place to be in this s*** league but it's been a mess of our own making.      Make no mistake it's tough to make it back, don't take it the wrong way or anything but suppose Derby don't get a promotion this year, it could take maybe another 2 or 3 seasons - maybe more - to achieve it. That's the reality.

That's not a criticism, just from someone who knows what a task it can be - or is - to escape League One status and make it back to Championship level.      You got Plymouth Argyles in your next game if correct, guess a number of our own fans shall be rooting for you as we got to take any and all points Plymouth may drop in the final weeks run-in.     It's the only way other club names will get an opportunity.

In all probability Town and Rams won't get an automatic promotion, I'd like to avoid you in a play-off situation, our record is beyond lousy and I think a two-game event would favor yourselves as past experience dictates we just won't make it.

I see Davey McGoldrick is scoring plenty for you.    He didn't do much for us in that capacity although spent a lot of time on the injury roster.    He's become almost a new player of what some can remember.     I wish you well in team endeavors for the Plymouth game.  

 

I got a great article from the last ever Cup game to be played at the Baseball Ground, 3/8/97, but thought it better to include it here.    Don't want to do no wrong or nothing, you can submit it to the link provided, but thought as a non-derby fan didn't want to intrude on the privilege.    In any event, this is it:     Hope this works.

Derby vs Middlesbrough

March 8 1997, Baseball Ground, Derby

 

Nobody gets far in the cup without a little luck. So what better way for the superstitious Derby fan to kick off quarter-final day than by buying a lottery ticket from Henry Newton ?

Newton runs a post office just a stones throw from the Baseball Ground, but back in 1976 he was a goalscorer as the Rams won through to the semi-finals, a feat they have not repeated since. That afternoon Derby beat Newcastle 4 - 2 thanks to two goals from Bruce Rioch, one from Charlie George and the volley Newton smacked in from the edge of the area. They lost to Manchester United at the penultimate hurdle. Today Newton's looking forward to cheering his team on against Middlesbrough. "I always close up about 12:30pm before a game so I get along in plenty of time. Of course I remember the Newcastle game really well. This is going to be a big afternoon for everybody"

 

He's not wrong. The last ever Cup tie at the Baseball ground and Saturdays only sixth-round tie, the rest having been shifted to Sunday for the armchair army, it all adds up to a sense of occasion. By the time supporters begin to arrive, crews from Match of the Day and Sky have already made themselves at home. The game's being screened live all over the world.

 

Over at Pride Park, where Derby are building a new home for next season, Rams fans stop by to check progress on the new stadium, which is modelled, ironically, on the Riverside at Middlesbrough. This is something of a pre-match ritual these days, season ticket holders pointing up to their prospective seats on the steel and concrete skeletons of the new stands. As regards this afternoon's game, though, it's more cold dread than Cup fever.

 

"We've got to win today, After Wednesday night, we've got to"

 

Ah yes, Wednesday night, when Derby lost 6 - 1 to Boro thanks to a Ravanelli hat-trick. Not the perfect warm-up for Boro's visit in the Cup four days later. Derby boss Jim Smith, for one, is still a little shell-shocked, but he's putting a determined face on things - "Well I can't say there's much of a buzz about the game after we got beat 6 - 1 in midweek" "It's all about personal pride now. You can't ask for much better chance to get your own back on a team that's just turned you over"

 

Smith, of course, took Portsmouth to a semi-final (which they lost on penalties to Liverpool) in 1992. That year, Nottingham Forest were beaten 1 - 0 in the sixth round in front of a delirious Fratton Park crowd. Tantalisingly, Portsmouth are in this season's quarter-finals, too. Smith has fond memories of his old teams giant-killing exploits. But Derby are a different club with different priorities.

 

"Beating Forest was such a big occasion for the crowd. We couldn't get them off the pitch after the game, it meant that much to get to a semi. Today would be a bigger day for me if Derby were completely safe in the Premiership. But the Cup games have given us a lift in the League this season. I thought we were the better side for an hour last Wednesday. We think Boro are beatable"

 

Beating them, though, won't be made easier by the absences of top scorer Dean Sturridge, through suspension, and regulars Jacob Laursen and Robin Van der Laan, as a result of injuries picked up at the Riverside. The midweek game also means there's been no time to take the team away for the short break that's traditionally part of a build-up to a big tie. In terms of preparation this is just another game. But as the Baseball Ground's cramped stands begin to fill up - and things get frantic around the dressing rooms and tunnel as kick-off approaches - it's pretty obvious that today anything is but routine. Club director Stuart Webb was here when Newton's goal helped beat Newcastle and he understands what a game like this means 20 years on. "Back then we had a team full of internationals. We were playing big games week after week. This club's been dormant and it's great to be back. We've got a history as a big club and we want a future, too. So big time occasions like this mean a great deal. I can tell you, everybody's up for it"

 

The Baseball Ground is the quintessential old English football stadium. A hotch-potch of more or less dilapidated grandstands are squeezed up tight around a threadbare playing surface. Away teams aren't supposed to feel welcome. At three o' clock the atmosphere's very intense - as well as very noisy - with a combative edge that's picked up out on the pitch straight from kick-off.

 

Within five minutes, Derby have given notice that Boro's expensive stars are going to have to fight if they want to play. Lee Carsley clatters Mikkel Beck, Paul Trollope does the same to Ravanelli. It's a bit lively: after a dreadful challenge by Ravanelli on Chris Powell, Carsley and Flynn are both booked for kicking Craig Hignett up in the air.

 

By the time the dust settles it's Boro who seem to be rising to the occasion. Ravanelli and Beck are pulling holes in the home defence for Juninho and Hignett to tip-tap their way through. The Brazilian has already missed a sitter before Hignett finds him in space on the edge of the Derby area. Little 'Un skips past a Stimac challenge and lifts the ball over goal-keeper Taylor to give his team the half-time lead they deserve.

 

For most of the second half Derby do little than flirt with the idea of an equaliser. They are badly missing Sturridge. Trollope, man-to-man on Juninho, helps keep Boro on the back foot, but with Asanovic out of sorts the Rams do little more than hit and hope. Only for a moment, just after the hour, when Ward wriggles free in the area onto an Asanovic pass, does a goal look like coming. But Festa stretches into a saving tackle and the chance is gone. It's not t be Derby's day.

 

And to rub it in, just on full-time, Juninho at last escapes in midfield before slipping a pass left to Ravanelli. A powerful shot swerves across Taylor and into the far corner to take Boro into their first ever FA Cup semi-final. Derby fans slip away, while the visitors end celebrates in what's left of the afternoon sunshine.

 

Jim Smith shrugs and smiles : "Quarter-finals are always going to be hard. You need a little bit of quality and they had it : Juninho and Ravanelli. We might have lacked a little quality today but at least if we work hard as we did today we won't have any problems staying in the Premiership this season"

 

Smith's pretty clear about his, and Derby's priorities. A moment of Baseball Ground history may have passed with a whimper instead of a bang. What matters now, though, isn't what's happened in the past. County have two months in which to say their farewells to their old gaff, and in which they have to secure the handful of points needed to ensure that the next chapter begins with the new stadium home to a Premiership team. The process starts here.

Don't like the Tractor tag they gave us.    Media some years back (Birmingham game if correct, early 2000's) labeled us with some slogan that depicts the team and fans as something of uneducated yokels and bumpkin farmhands.    It's a stupid stereotype that just kind of stuck over time.   Nobody goes around Ipswich in Tractors unless of course field work farm machinery, rightful rural communities etc.

That aside, I got no idea what will occur with this event.    Home advantage should favor the team but with us, nothing is as it seems.   We concede late goals often, if games ended at 80 minutes we'd most likely be already promoted now but got a clear propensity to allow opposition sides a goal in the closing minutes.    It's cost us league points, Cup progress and until it's properly addressed and eradicated I feel it's going to cost the team the ultimate prize by end of season.

Both us and Sheffield saw disappointing Cup exits just recent, if we can pay like we did against the best team in the Championship league above over two games then we'd have a great chance of promotion but it takes a whole lot more than that.    I don't know who Derby play this weekend.   All right it's crucial and relevant to ourselves and say Bolton and Plymouth also but concentrating right now on ourselves.  We have a job to do this weekend, it's a very important one, so nearest challengers can sit it out maybe until event is over.    We have to focus on Sheffield and little else , it's the primary issue right now you understand.   

Few weeks back Derby were like mid-league and we ourselves at the top, and now look at it.   I mean seriously, what the hell.

If you beat Port Vales tomorrow and we lose to Morecambe then the distance will be reduced to just one point, unbelievable just a month or two back.   Yeah, I'm worried.  It's got to be said.    You got a game in hand over us also.  

 I take the opportunity to congratulate Rams on moving up from mid-league to the verge of an automatic promotion opportunity, there's no malice or ill-feeling or why should there be, but a lot of our fans are getting mighty antsy about the time ahead having lost a number of valuable points in recent games.

I think teams like us, you look at the top two automatic promotion places and question can we really make it, you know, invade that territory and stick with it.    In truth I answer for my own team No, not sure how you feel about your own club endeavors for the months ahead, but you got to realize, it's a tough ask for sure.   

Probably said before teams like us, of previous stature and accomplishment, don't really belong in this league.   You know what the worse thing is, being at the very top for certain stages sure that you're going to do it, only to see your team fall away and people are asking questions is the play-offs the best thing to accept even at this stage of this season.   

It's going to be an interesting round of games tomorrow for sure.     Mentioned on a Town forum to our own fanbase (that) only the strong and whoever holds their nerve most  (from Plymouth to all top six club names) can, or will, only succeed in terms of a promotion.   

 

 

How about that, got a result when few would have given us a chance.   Not only that we could have won it  ?

Scores and results against the English are usually favorable.    Too young to remember the Belo Horizonte / Gaetjens game but after that, a win in the '93 Boston event / tour you took part of, and draw at the World Cup a year or two back when your goalkeeper made an error or sorts.     Yesterday was another encouraging score, but a certain regret remains the opportunity were there to win it such were the poor performance of our opponents.

Being impartial for one moment it's true to say the real objective here is seeing Derby and Ipswich getting a promotion out of the domestic league and a good F.A. Cup run with it.    We're both on course for it although the season still has a distance to run.    Both playing non-league teams this weekend if correct, and both expected to make it through.    

Going to forget about any damn World Cup for a day or two and focus purely on own club endeavors.     Got to realize that's where the real glory's at.     Wish you well for the Newport game, sincerely, no malice or snide remark.    See you in the Third Round OK.   

 

 

There's a website called Paranormal Database that includes most famous and rumored hauntings / locations around the UK and Ireland.    Derbyshire is included.      May be instances of paranormal haunts somewhere near you that you never realized or knew about.

They got UFO's, Mermaids and Cryptozoology et cetera for each designated area although not sure how far that extends into Derby or it's surrounding area.   

Have at it we got a win if only by the one goal.    Read some game report/s available on-line and maybe it wasn't El Classico or anything but two teams of once powerful stature fighting it out in some piss-ant league where neither wishes to be.     Derby County would have been maybe favorites over ourselves to finish in first place but you people need to improve if you got any chance of making it back by end of season.     Don't get me wrong i'd like to see Derby back in the Championship league but not if comes at our expense.      Think maybe the play-offs are a realistic target for you now, no disrespect but you seem to falling too far behind the leading pack.

A bumper crowd tonight, fans are coming back and Portman Road is selling out once more, as a long-suffering fan you can't dispute.

Burns took his chance well when on another night he or someone could have blown the opportunity but not sure how many further chances Jackson will be presented from a penalty decision.   

All said a tough gritty encounter between two of the actual heavyweights of the division.    Maybe it wasn't the best advert for lower league soccer but a win's a win.     Hope the traveling fans Derby took down endured a safe trip back even if you didn't get the result you wanted.    I look forward to the return at Pride Park Stadium.   

 

 

It's a shame Derby had to drop into the Third League but I get a chance to discuss a game event with it.     Back in 1975 we were the best two "football" clubs in the UK and now look at it, quite a fall away.    Teams of our stature shouldn't really be playing out at this level but we at least now got a real chance of making it back to Championship status by end of season.

We've had two losses just recent.   Lincoln somehow managed a win last weekend and survived some 35 attempts on their goal and still won while Cambridge sneaked a victory in some pointless tournament nonsense a few days back.    The latter wasn't a real concern but some of our fanbase took real issue with it.       The referee was in so many words, 'sub standard'

I get to follow action week in week out without live attendance by way of our fan forums and news items like EADT.     McKenna's done real good put often plays players out of position and favors a constant one in attack.   I'd expect the same for this game, it's not pretty, it's not particularly effective but has got us results.     The defense at times seems shaky and Walton has made some crucial errors just recent but still remains one of the very best goalkeepers outside the top two divisions.

If only McKenna played two or three in attack from the start and allowed say Chaplin Jackson and Aluko to get forward more often, we'd feel more confident in getting the goals to beat opponents.    Portman Road has come alive again this season after years of fans staying away.     Seeing 25,000 + for each fixture now particularly on a Saturday is encouraging but we don't always get the result to reward those who attend.

This is the type of game that will test our promotion credentials.    It's been 20 years since ITFC last featured in the EPL and while we still got another league to get past if or when we're promoted in May in order to make it back, the team at last is on the up and fans are having their best season in some years.     It should be a good event.    

 

I saw an item on one of our fourms where Marcus Evans may throw his hat in the ring to take over at your club.    Listen up and do whatever you can to ensure this never takes place.    Evans may be a businessman, he may have involvement or control within other aspects of industry but has never, and can never, hope to succeed within ownership of a 'football' team.

His 14 years with us came at a heavy price.   Took the club name down to third league status for first time in some half a century, appointed one crap manager name after another, time and time again, did not invest in new players  and never spoke out or was seen to be seen when the fans really needed help at it's most.    At times it seemed he just didn't care.

Was kept in place with us for far more years than what was necessary.  Came on board after Sheepshanks in 2007 and was expected to steer the club back to something achieving, but took the club in the opposite direction.    Fans were overjoyed when he finally left in the summer although some were thankful for his services.

Don't allow Derby County to follow this route, forewarned is forearmed.    It looks like we'll be playing you again next season and while i'm looking forward to it and wish it once again at higher level, do whatever you can to make sure Evans is not coming back to Portman Road when you make the trip over and do the right thing, hire someone else to take ownership.    Mike Ashley too, can't really speak for that name but realize he has amounted a lot of hostility and anger with previous clubs he's been involved at.  

 

On ‎31‎/‎07‎/‎2018 at 14:51, Chester40 said:

From the very beginning to the very end it was truly mind-bogglingly awful. Unfair to pick out a particular bit!!!

It's not a bad movie, I prefer it over Football Factory although the main lead (Charlie Hunnam or something) doesn't possess a London accent, goes off on a tangent all over the UK, not sure who the voice coaches were on set.

Green Street Hooligans 2 by contrast is abysmal, I believe someone mentioned it.    How the hell are the perpetrators from the first movie in a lockdown in California, and best of all they stage some sort of game at the end against Millwall prisoners (?) where the winners get released or allowed to walk out the main gate (!).    Just for good measure Bennett from Commando was the warden if correct.     ?

You want a good credible soccer film that addresses hooligan aspects then go with The Firm with Gary Oldman or maybe ID.   

 

The Jackal

Poor remake of a very good original with Edward Fox.     Bruce Willis goes through a multitude of appearances, toupees and personas in pursuit of an assassination objective.    Gere does well as an Irish terrorist who helps out the pursuit, but this can't compare with the 1973 original.

 

 

 

 

May have responded to this before but as having had depression issues (and for a time suicidal tendencies) now and in the past, it's a comfort to know there are similar sufferers out there and interesting to read other perspectives and stories.

There's no 'best way' to combat these anxieties, each individual will find their own way to get through the days and weeks ahead : but being involved with others (not talking on-line, but in person - face to face etc) and being part of group activities can help a deteriorating or unstable situation.

I see day by day people less fortunate than myself in ways that don't really require elaboration, and it offers a simple but effective perspective.     Bottom line, realize you're better off than a good many others and don't forget to count your blessings.

Life is hard, it's unfair and at times seems without mercy - for a time I was almost oblivious to it but got hit hard - very hard - when things started to fall apart.     A few years on, it's no pleasure park out there, but coping all the same.

 

 

May have responded to this here thread before but fact is, have suffered depression for over a decade now and at one time was even enduring suicidal tendencies.   It's an awkward subject to address and sometimes reason can be lost in words but it's something just about everyone will experience in the space of a lifetime.    There's this famous quote "How we deal with death is just as important as how we deal with life" and essentially you can't dispute.

Best advice, keep active, remain busy (and) interact with people, and focus on a worthwhile objective.   It's all too easy to go under and give up - but then again, you realize with enough time, that it's as simple to venture on and count your blessings.

Can never remember if this thread caters for latest theater release or movies in general so had to wade through previous comments to ascertain if a response was suitable.

In any event, the last film I viewed was Raging Bull (1980)

People will have seen this at one time or another.   Filmed without color,  De Niro spends the entire duration eating, swearing, or beating opponents in and out of the ring.     While badly dated, there are enough instances to keep the interest but this movie seems tame in today's light, from the time of initial release.

One thing about the condition is you never know who is suffering i.e pass people on the street, we don't always know how they're feeling, or what their situation is.

Can speak on this freely as have suffered with this for around 10 years, mostly attributed to personal loss and divorce, and while have attended counselling sessions on many occasion, there wasn't any real end product.    

Best thing to do is maybe count your blessings, realize there are those less fortunate than yourself and try to remain positive - no matter how hard it can be at certain times.      Times like now (holiday season) can be a real setback however, but for all other sufferers out there - you're not alone.

 

 

Scum (1979)

British prison release about a juvenile detention center that features a young Ray Winstone (and other subsequently recognized names) that caused a stir back in the day and even now has the ability to cause a certain level of offense.

Not an easy watch, but puts forward a strong message all the same i.e. there isn't all that much difference between the inmates and the staff that watch over them.     Humor is few and far between, but when it arrives, it adds some much needed light relief to the other "unsavory" moments.

9/10

The Football Factory (2004)

Nauseating Brit soccer story that while tries to offer as many profanities as possible, offers very little (or none) actual 'football'

Could not comprehend most of the dialog, the characters were largely forgettable, and whatever morale it was trying to tell was lost by the very end.    A tough viewing in more ways than one.

There are better efforts than this crap out there, try The Firm with British star Gary Oldman or Green Street Hooligans if you want a better or more realistic portrayal of English 'football' hooligan elements.

2 / 10