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I doubt his £800 bar bill went on Fruit Shoot.

If he was sober...then letting his teammates drink drive and being a passenger, potentially without a seatbelt... Even worse.

I doubt his £800 bar bill went on Fruit Shoot.

I'm not reading through 51 pages of this so I know what I'm going to say has hopefully already been said.
People who see Richard Keogh as the victim here are wrong, Derby County are the victim.
I'll preface this by saying I think all three should have been sacked. I would rather that have happened but I think Keogh is fully deserving of the sack.
Keogh's 33 years old, I've worked with/been responsible for young people in a professional capacity who have the same age gap between me and them as Keogh did to Bennett/Lawrence. He should have known better.
He got into Lawrence's car inebriated, knowing full well Lawrence was well over the limit and then didn't even put his ducking seatbelt on. The club captain. "Mr Derby County".
By doing that he's pretty much ended his career,  he can't perform his job and he should consider himself lucky to be alive.
Derby are right to sack him. I just don't have any sympathy for him. I think they were generous to offer him a chance to stay on a reduced contract.
Just because he wasn't driving doesn't mean he's the victim in any way. He's dug his own grave by getting in that car let alone not putting on a seatbelt. It's not a situation where you can say 'well if Lawrence wasn't driving drunk Keogh would never have got injured!'. Keogh could have still got himself a taxi, the bloke can't drive, I'm sure he knows the number for a taxi company.
He's damaged the club in a way the other two simply haven't. He's completely eradicated himself as an asset to his employers through his own irresponsible actions.
I'd rather we'd have let Lawrence and Bennett go as well but if you see it from the clubs perspective, while their actions were equally as irresponsible they didn't go as far as to injure themselves. I don't know if they were wearing seatbelts or not but they can still do their job. The fact they were driving doesn't make them more responsible than Keogh.
It's upsetting because Keogh was easily my favourite Derby player of all time. Shame he's been such an absolute clown.
 

Anybody remember at the time it came out that Keogh was 'devastated' and 'feels responsible'?
How come when he is made responsible he feels let down & is a scapegoat? 

I have felt too emotional about the whole situation to offer my view up to now.
My heart is broken for a good captain and warrior for DCFC. To be sacked from the club you have given 100% to on the pitch over seven gruelling seasons must be humiliating and make you feel dreadful.
However, my head now questions how much of Keogh's passion for Derby is real. The least favourable offer he turned down from the club, if accurate, of £3,000 per week, is more than the prime minister's salary and only slightly less than the chief police constable of Derbyshire who has responsibility for a huge budget and staff team  who do a tremendously difficult job every day at work.
He was also being offered free state of the art rehabilitation facilities, could start to work on his coaching badges if he wished and presumably would also be free to supplement his income with appearances on Sky ("like you say") or other options if that is his choice. Most importantly in all this he was being offered an opportunity to retain his status as a good servant of the club and the adoration and support of the fans.
He has chosen to reject all this for what? More money. Not much of a swap in my opinion.
His action will now by actively costing the club too as they will have been taking expensive legal advice and will have to continue to do so over the appeal and possible tribunal.
People are wondering why no official statement from Derby. I wonder whether the 'statement' we are reading is actually the dismissal letter to Keogh as the wording in it, including the 14 days' appeal time, reads like a letter from HR. 
I don't know if I am being overly supportive of my club, but the whole way this story has broken makes me think it has come from Keogh's side. He clearly feels very aggrieved about the way he is being treated.
I also think this will have been going back and forward for some time, that this is just the latest play from the club and that they might have been hoping for a response from Keogh that would have allowed him a successful appeal, rather than a messy, public and prolonged visit to an industrial tribunal.
All this is huge speculation on my part, for which I hold my hands up. It is coloured by my huge love for our club, rather than for any individual player, no matter how good a servant he has been to DCFC.
What I do know is that while Keogh still has my sympathy, he's lost my respect. 
 
 

Slightly off topic, but just thinking; if opposition supporters start singing;
”Richard Keogh, he should of walked home”.....
Get the reply;
”he doesn’t work for us, he doesn’t work for us....” etc etc
(sorry, hungover)

Slightly off topic, but just thinking; if opposition supporters start singing;
”Richard Keogh, he should of walked home”.....
Get the reply;
”he doesn’t work for us, he doesn’t work for us....” etc etc
(sorry, hungover)

Not having it - you have Jamie P as your profile pic.

I'm on your team 

I am absolutely astounded that Keogh feels let down by Derby County.
 
The man was in a privileged position to Captain a professional football club. A job dreams are made of. There's a small matter of £25,000 a WEEK to add to that. 
He should have been leading that night whether he's on the pitch or not. Yet somehow he got into the car with a drunk team mate, who is also mentally unstable.
He then got injured when that car crashed. Leaving him unable to play for over a year. 
Somehow, this man feels he deserves to be payed the same amount as usual, as well as having thousands pumped into his rehabilitation.
 
A Bamford of the highest order. Good riddance. 

hi all
As soon as the details of the 'accident' were made public I inwardly predicted this.  Here's my take for what it's worth:
DCFC is a workplace just like any other.  The evening was a club event and therefore he was 'on duty' as Club Captain.  As Club Captain, he not only refused the offer of transport after consuming alcohol (why players at this level think they should be consuming ANY alcohol in midweek is another question for another day, I don't think that top tennis players or athletes drink alcohol during the competition season!!!), he chose to remain with two younger players and consume even more alcohol, much more apparently.  In doing so he incapacitated himself, thus rendering himself unable to fulfil his workplace function of ensuring the well being of the younger players, and then allowed them to drive drunk (unbelievable!!!) and endanger both themselves and members of the public.  He therefore has to carry the can for the whole incident.  His was the 'controlling mind' (I believe that is the legal term) and he is the architect of his own downfall.  He has no one to blame but himself.
I wish him well, I thank him for all his efforts, time to draw a line and move on.  If the club reach an out of court settlement then fine, as long as it doesn't cost too much, the PFA can negotiate that I'm sure.  He let the club and himself down, and if I were Mel Morris I would do exactly the same.  Sean Barker, Thorne, Fozzy etc are all completely different cases, and the club showed loyalty to them.
Sorry if that sounds harsh to some but I don't see how he can really complain TBH.
LR2

This is all about their ability to return to work. Lawrence and Bennett have been dealt with and have returned to work. Keogh would have been dealt with in a similar manner but his own reckless behaviour rendered him unfit for work. Derby it seems as a responsible employer offered him an olive branch to stay on reduced terms. He turned that down.  What exactly have the club done wrong?

I love the way Jeff Hendrick spells through how he would say it! 

Good, as Captain he should have taken Lawrence and Bennett's keys off them, sad way to end what could have been a Rams legend

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