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he didn't need a touch he literally just needed to steer the ball in with one touch even with your less favoured foot I'd expect that to hit the open goal which is was really 
it was a very easy opportunity and i thought a good ball from Washington, no excuses about taking a touch it was a poor execution like he took his eye off of the ball 

Good points but I think we'll be lucky to keep Adams if we are in L1
Personally I'd rather we tried a different coach who's going to use our younger players more ...if ready of course the squad needs major overhaul to me and not sure i want Warne to be conducting that 

Good points but I think we'll be lucky to keep Adams if we are in L1
Personally I'd rather we tried a different coach who's going to use our younger players more ...if ready of course the squad needs major overhaul to me and not sure i want Warne to be conducting that 

There was nowt wrong with the pass...imo, It found it's target...CBT, He was unable to do what in 99% of the time he would score...imo, 
I saw Roger Davis miss an even easier at Stamford Bridge decades ago, It happens, But what makes it look bad is that we drew, But even if he'd had scored it was no guarantee of a win. 

Why would any footballer want to control the ball with the goal only a couple of feet away and empty? CBT just fluffed a great opportunity, I fear that miss will hang heavy on the player 😉

Hardly battered. They scored an early penalty and hit us on the counter in the 2nd half.
We still had 10 shots in that game (5 on target), with their keeper making some excellent saves. Also, Collins and Mendez-Laing both had goals ruled out for offside.

I think it boils down to two things....possibly three:
Whether you think the team is better than its sum parts.......that's what good managers achieve and many don't believe PW hasn't achieved that, despite us being in 2nd place.
Is the football good to watch?........I see a lot of snarking at those who are openly critical of the style of play but very few who openly think it's great.
But, I get your point. I'm not sure how it works..... but you can enjoy the season and the results without particularly enjoying the football itself. I'm sort of in that position and reasonably confident we'll hold on to 2nd place.
The other possibility is that we get very high quality football pumped into our living rooms for the rest of the week and unrealistically expect our squad to play error-free in the same manner. I find Man City quite boring to watch on occasions but the game against Real Madrid was a thriller. City made nearly 700 passes with over 90% completion and their outfield players only played 10 long balls. Last night we made 375 passes with less than 70% completion with 60 long balls by outfield players. 
Mrs Bat said to me this morning "I know we've got season tickets again and we may get promoted but I can't stand another season of this sh*t"
That's where a lot of people are I'm afraid.

1Wildsmith    6   made an important save in second half and was brave with the calamitous back pass in last min
2Wilson   5       flattered to deceive a bit last night 
35Nelson   6   had a tough game against a strong forward
6Cashin    6.5   had a reasonably good game 
17Sibley    5  needs to look after the ball more some of his passing was aimless
11Méndez-Laing    6   poor game for his standards 
12Smith        7  some good passing and think was one of our better players 
16Thompson   6  looked lively when came on but didn't have much time to get more thn a 6
32Adams    7  solid dependable and covered at the back also puts his head where some wouldn't
27Blackett-Taylor    5   poor display and should have  scored
4Hourihane    5  no real impact on game Smith was doing well 
14Washington   6.5 works hard and set up CBT but should've done better with his chance 
7Barkhuizen    5 no real impact and didn't get into the game 
9Collins    6  worked tirelessly but had little impact up front where we need him 
10Waghorn    5.5   not enough time really to impact the game but won a good header from NML cross
 

FWIW I thought Wycombe actually tried to play and were not as industrial as we've seen them under Ainsworth, played some neat football at times and could've won.
That miss from CBT was really quite poor, we now move on to the O's who whenever I've seen them this season have played some nice football so won't be easy, we need PP rocking on Saturday I still think 3 wins will get us over the line 

why try and disguise the fact it wasn't good enough last night even Warne didn't seem happy 
It was not great and nothing to learn from pretending it was anything different , the problem is its not a stand alone performance we missed 2 good chances but Wycombe could've scored 2 themselves , one where Wildsmith made a good save and the other more fortuitous chance that fell to there player in our area and he shot over but I didn't think wycombe were that bad they look like they're trying to change there style of play to me and thought they had a couple of decent players 
Zero shots on target is never good no matter what and this is a worry ..... Orient have looked like a good footballing side whenever I've watched them but we must win all 3 now and believe we can hope he keeps faith with Smith but another CM to make 3 i think will help, hope Bradley isn't brought back in tbh ...if Gayle could get himself fit I think he would be a very big boost for us 

1Wildsmith    6   made an important save in second half and was brave with the calamitous back pass in last min
2Wilson   5       flattered to deceive a bit last night 
35Nelson   6   had a tough game against a strong forward
6Cashin    6.5   had a reasonably good game 
17Sibley    5  needs to look after the ball more some of his passing was aimless
11Méndez-Laing    6   poor game for his standards 
12Smith        7  some good passing and think was one of our better players 
16Thompson   6  looked lively when came on but didn't have much time to get more thn a 6
32Adams    7  solid dependable and covered at the back also puts his head where some wouldn't
27Blackett-Taylor    5   poor display and should have  scored
4Hourihane    5  no real impact on game Smith was doing well 
14Washington   6.5 works hard and set up CBT but should've done better with his chance 
7Barkhuizen    5 no real impact and didn't get into the game 
9Collins    6  worked tirelessly but had little impact up front where we need him 
10Waghorn    5.5   not enough time really to impact the game but won a good header from NML cross
 

FWIW I thought Wycombe actually tried to play and were not as industrial as we've seen them under Ainsworth, played some neat football at times and could've won.
That miss from CBT was really quite poor, we now move on to the O's who whenever I've seen them this season have played some nice football so won't be easy, we need PP rocking on Saturday I still think 3 wins will get us over the line 

FWIW I thought Wycombe actually tried to play and were not as industrial as we've seen them under Ainsworth, played some neat football at times and could've won.
That miss from CBT was really quite poor, we now move on to the O's who whenever I've seen them this season have played some nice football so won't be easy, we need PP rocking on Saturday I still think 3 wins will get us over the line 

FWIW I thought Wycombe actually tried to play and were not as industrial as we've seen them under Ainsworth, played some neat football at times and could've won.
That miss from CBT was really quite poor, we now move on to the O's who whenever I've seen them this season have played some nice football so won't be easy, we need PP rocking on Saturday I still think 3 wins will get us over the line 

IF we do not go up this season do we think Warne ( who i like as a person ) should stay ?
If we don't make it this season I'd like someone else to be given a chance next season 

No. Pay him a nice fat 'thanks for the promotion' bonus and send him on with our best wishes. He's a good guy and I'd probably enjoy his company, but his football is the polar opposite if what I enjoy watching and I don't think it's good enough for the second tier.
EDIT: Apologies, I misread your post. It's still a no. If we don't go up he has, by his own admission, failed. Position untenable.

What makes me laugh sometimes is that …yes the players get pelters for not playing well but at what stage do we think the manager might also be to blame because Warne is not blameless  it’s his players team and formations I just want to see the end of this season and want to see better football with more direction 

FWIW I thought Wycombe actually tried to play and were not as industrial as we've seen them under Ainsworth, played some neat football at times and could've won.
That miss from CBT was really quite poor, we now move on to the O's who whenever I've seen them this season have played some nice football so won't be easy, we need PP rocking on Saturday I still think 3 wins will get us over the line 

it makes me angry that we'd even have to think about this

Whatever Clowes has done, and we're eternally grateful for what that, the appointment of Warne felt strange but it's looking to be awful. While tonight was grim, it wasn't particularly out of character or surprising, it was utterly predictable. Promotion or not, he's not the future 

They are two makeshift full backs
Sorry prior to this season when we how many times had sibley played left back in his life? Oh right never.. thats makeshift roy cmon man i know its late n all that lol 
and no i dont rate sibley. 
allowing for the fact that hes not a full back by trade .. his control was lets say loose and his passing was indifferent , i could forgive him for getting roasted or wrong side of his man… aka pompy away.. cos its not his position(see makeshift) but his touch and passing were decidedly poor again more so given that hes player who many here seem to think is a technical player who can create.. passing and touch is a basic for that sort of player no matter where they play 
u could put george thorne at full back , yes hed get roasted but u can bet he could still pass and control the ball effectively 

Not read through, don't have the strength. 
That was f****** appalling.
Collo might as well have taken my dog for a walk, and taken CBT with him.
I'm not going to go off on one...it's not changing anything...but that was reeeeally f****** appalling.

What makes me laugh sometimes is that …yes the players get pelters for not playing well but at what stage do we think the manager might also be to blame because Warne is not blameless  it’s his players team and formations I just want to see the end of this season and want to see better football with more direction 

That team wasn't clogging around League One against awful opposition though was it? 

Warne isn't interested in good football. Or it's probably more accurate to say that Warne's idea of good football is very different to your average Derby fans idea of good football.