TomBustler1884

I haven't had much to do with David Clowes, but have met a few of the team at his company. They own masses amounts of the city's buildings, especially around the Cathedral Quarter, including Friar Gate Goods Yard, and land around Becket Well.
Having sat on those properties for a long time, since David took over the company, they seem to be pursing a strategy of selling or refurbishing those properties for the good of the city. It's the first time in 40 years or so that work is being done on the Goods Yard for example, whilst they were key to getting Becket Well out of the ground.
I know for a fact David is a massive Derby fan, but he is also very private. I end up at loads of business networking and awards things through my job over the years, and he is very rarely there. He isn't interested in the limelight and his real passion is flying planes. Which makes me think he is intending to do this and do it right - he just wouldn't want the publicity.
I'm also very confident that he won't be involved day to day and will leave this to someone else. That could be Ian Dickinson, could be Garry Cook, could be Stephen Pearce.

I haven't had much to do with David Clowes, but have met a few of the team at his company. They own masses amounts of the city's buildings, especially around the Cathedral Quarter, including Friar Gate Goods Yard, and land around Becket Well.
Having sat on those properties for a long time, since David took over the company, they seem to be pursing a strategy of selling or refurbishing those properties for the good of the city. It's the first time in 40 years or so that work is being done on the Goods Yard for example, whilst they were key to getting Becket Well out of the ground.
I know for a fact David is a massive Derby fan, but he is also very private. I end up at loads of business networking and awards things through my job over the years, and he is very rarely there. He isn't interested in the limelight and his real passion is flying planes. Which makes me think he is intending to do this and do it right - he just wouldn't want the publicity.
I'm also very confident that he won't be involved day to day and will leave this to someone else. That could be Ian Dickinson, could be Garry Cook, could be Stephen Pearce.

I haven't had much to do with David Clowes, but have met a few of the team at his company. They own masses amounts of the city's buildings, especially around the Cathedral Quarter, including Friar Gate Goods Yard, and land around Becket Well.
Having sat on those properties for a long time, since David took over the company, they seem to be pursing a strategy of selling or refurbishing those properties for the good of the city. It's the first time in 40 years or so that work is being done on the Goods Yard for example, whilst they were key to getting Becket Well out of the ground.
I know for a fact David is a massive Derby fan, but he is also very private. I end up at loads of business networking and awards things through my job over the years, and he is very rarely there. He isn't interested in the limelight and his real passion is flying planes. Which makes me think he is intending to do this and do it right - he just wouldn't want the publicity.
I'm also very confident that he won't be involved day to day and will leave this to someone else. That could be Ian Dickinson, could be Garry Cook, could be Stephen Pearce.

I haven't had much to do with David Clowes, but have met a few of the team at his company. They own masses amounts of the city's buildings, especially around the Cathedral Quarter, including Friar Gate Goods Yard, and land around Becket Well.
Having sat on those properties for a long time, since David took over the company, they seem to be pursing a strategy of selling or refurbishing those properties for the good of the city. It's the first time in 40 years or so that work is being done on the Goods Yard for example, whilst they were key to getting Becket Well out of the ground.
I know for a fact David is a massive Derby fan, but he is also very private. I end up at loads of business networking and awards things through my job over the years, and he is very rarely there. He isn't interested in the limelight and his real passion is flying planes. Which makes me think he is intending to do this and do it right - he just wouldn't want the publicity.
I'm also very confident that he won't be involved day to day and will leave this to someone else. That could be Ian Dickinson, could be Garry Cook, could be Stephen Pearce.

I haven't had much to do with David Clowes, but have met a few of the team at his company. They own masses amounts of the city's buildings, especially around the Cathedral Quarter, including Friar Gate Goods Yard, and land around Becket Well.
Having sat on those properties for a long time, since David took over the company, they seem to be pursing a strategy of selling or refurbishing those properties for the good of the city. It's the first time in 40 years or so that work is being done on the Goods Yard for example, whilst they were key to getting Becket Well out of the ground.
I know for a fact David is a massive Derby fan, but he is also very private. I end up at loads of business networking and awards things through my job over the years, and he is very rarely there. He isn't interested in the limelight and his real passion is flying planes. Which makes me think he is intending to do this and do it right - he just wouldn't want the publicity.
I'm also very confident that he won't be involved day to day and will leave this to someone else. That could be Ian Dickinson, could be Garry Cook, could be Stephen Pearce.

International football and with only a week in September, it would be crazy to sack him now. 
A terrible block of results, but we qualify with ease and both tournaments he's led us in have resulted in our best run.
He has Qatar and our performance in that decides his future. If he doesn't reach the semi finals, I think he moves on.

International football and with only a week in September, it would be crazy to sack him now. 
A terrible block of results, but we qualify with ease and both tournaments he's led us in have resulted in our best run.
He has Qatar and our performance in that decides his future. If he doesn't reach the semi finals, I think he moves on.

Derbyshire batters smashing up the place. I think it was a big shot from Masood. Thats not me FYI!

I would imagine the individuals involved in that all know each other well enough - Redrow and Clowes have done plenty of property deals in the past together.

I would imagine the individuals involved in that all know each other well enough - Redrow and Clowes have done plenty of property deals in the past together.

Derbyshire batters smashing up the place. I think it was a big shot from Masood. Thats not me FYI!

Derbyshire batters smashing up the place. I think it was a big shot from Masood. Thats not me FYI!

Derbyshire batters smashing up the place. I think it was a big shot from Masood. Thats not me FYI!

Hypothetically -
If CK has transferred the money and it has been subjected to enhanced Money Laundering checks for whatever reasons (Authorities untrusting of Crypto origins, because its a person>company transfer rather than a hedge fund or trust fund purchasing us, or whatever) and it turns out that the delays were outside of his control. What will people do then?
I've seen comments of 'He will need to rebuild bridges if it does go through', I think its the opposite way around. All of this hysteria today and nobody has yet substantiated any source or proof. Some of the accusations and vitriol towards CK today has been shocking. I understand *fully* how stressful this whole situation has been for Derby fans, but personally, I wouldn't want to talk to the media either if I had been turned on like Derby fans have done today, especially if it turns out that it was delayed by external checks after all.
If this does go through, then our fan base has a lot of groveling to do.
Obviously if he has been messing us around this whole time, then fair enough, go for it. But as hard as it is to wait, I wont be aiming both barrels until I hear an explanation form the horses mouth.

At the time I was involved in regular discussions with people at DCFC with doing fan displays and my job means I need to retain professional relationships in the Derby business community, including with those in major institutions in the city, so if I had concerns or worries I wouldn't have put them in public out too often, if at all.
I trusted Mel, an experienced and successful businessman, to run the club properly and even if I disagreed with some of what he did, as a mere mortal fan, wasn't in a position to change anything or influence him so there we go.
I was bitterly disappointed to see how it's all turned out and, as things have become clearer since his exit, pretty livid - the same as any other Derby fan.
Regardless of all that, I'm not sure how any of my posting performance on here or Twitter is relevant to me saying I'm falling out of love with football and my reasons for doing so? If I am excited by investment in the playing squad or club I promise to complain more going forward?

Ed must be extremely confident in what he's saying or he wouldn't have put this out to get shot at. Either that or he's being strung along by someone trying to put pressure on to get the deal done/collapse so they can step in.
It's just such a mess and from our previous owner to the admins to prospective owners to everyone else involved in the whole sorry saga, it is destroying my interest. Maybe the internet age is to blame but this isn't why I follow football, I follow it as an escape, somewhere I can go for a release and to share a passion with my mates.
Trying to get my head around amortisation methods, takeover structures, tax evasion, blah, blah, blah isn't an escape. Even the answer to all of this, proper regulation by an independent body with clear rules and accountability is so boring. And yet so important - every club in the country is a Mel Morris away from what we're going through.
I just want it done, for people to stop playing games with an institution that means so much to the city. Either it continues or it doesn't but this purgatory is a horrorshow.

Ed must be extremely confident in what he's saying or he wouldn't have put this out to get shot at. Either that or he's being strung along by someone trying to put pressure on to get the deal done/collapse so they can step in.
It's just such a mess and from our previous owner to the admins to prospective owners to everyone else involved in the whole sorry saga, it is destroying my interest. Maybe the internet age is to blame but this isn't why I follow football, I follow it as an escape, somewhere I can go for a release and to share a passion with my mates.
Trying to get my head around amortisation methods, takeover structures, tax evasion, blah, blah, blah isn't an escape. Even the answer to all of this, proper regulation by an independent body with clear rules and accountability is so boring. And yet so important - every club in the country is a Mel Morris away from what we're going through.
I just want it done, for people to stop playing games with an institution that means so much to the city. Either it continues or it doesn't but this purgatory is a horrorshow.

Ed must be extremely confident in what he's saying or he wouldn't have put this out to get shot at. Either that or he's being strung along by someone trying to put pressure on to get the deal done/collapse so they can step in.
It's just such a mess and from our previous owner to the admins to prospective owners to everyone else involved in the whole sorry saga, it is destroying my interest. Maybe the internet age is to blame but this isn't why I follow football, I follow it as an escape, somewhere I can go for a release and to share a passion with my mates.
Trying to get my head around amortisation methods, takeover structures, tax evasion, blah, blah, blah isn't an escape. Even the answer to all of this, proper regulation by an independent body with clear rules and accountability is so boring. And yet so important - every club in the country is a Mel Morris away from what we're going through.
I just want it done, for people to stop playing games with an institution that means so much to the city. Either it continues or it doesn't but this purgatory is a horrorshow.

Ed must be extremely confident in what he's saying or he wouldn't have put this out to get shot at. Either that or he's being strung along by someone trying to put pressure on to get the deal done/collapse so they can step in.
It's just such a mess and from our previous owner to the admins to prospective owners to everyone else involved in the whole sorry saga, it is destroying my interest. Maybe the internet age is to blame but this isn't why I follow football, I follow it as an escape, somewhere I can go for a release and to share a passion with my mates.
Trying to get my head around amortisation methods, takeover structures, tax evasion, blah, blah, blah isn't an escape. Even the answer to all of this, proper regulation by an independent body with clear rules and accountability is so boring. And yet so important - every club in the country is a Mel Morris away from what we're going through.
I just want it done, for people to stop playing games with an institution that means so much to the city. Either it continues or it doesn't but this purgatory is a horrorshow.

On this very good point, I'm sick of seeing this happen. People looking back to posts months or years ago and seeing if you were
"Pro-Mel or Anti-Mel"
"Pro-Kirchner or Anti Kirchner"
"Pro-Rooney or Anti-Rooney"
And all the various battlegrounds amongst fans. Like every thing I post is me officially "going on record" and I have to live and die by everything I say and every opinion I voice.
Man, I'm just posting. I didn't realise I was running for parliament. I thought I was just chatting shiz online about my football club for a bit of fun.
How did we get here where every individual fan is on trial for every word they've ever said?

At the time I was involved in regular discussions with people at DCFC with doing fan displays and my job means I need to retain professional relationships in the Derby business community, including with those in major institutions in the city, so if I had concerns or worries I wouldn't have put them in public out too often, if at all.
I trusted Mel, an experienced and successful businessman, to run the club properly and even if I disagreed with some of what he did, as a mere mortal fan, wasn't in a position to change anything or influence him so there we go.
I was bitterly disappointed to see how it's all turned out and, as things have become clearer since his exit, pretty livid - the same as any other Derby fan.
Regardless of all that, I'm not sure how any of my posting performance on here or Twitter is relevant to me saying I'm falling out of love with football and my reasons for doing so? If I am excited by investment in the playing squad or club I promise to complain more going forward?

At the time I was involved in regular discussions with people at DCFC with doing fan displays and my job means I need to retain professional relationships in the Derby business community, including with those in major institutions in the city, so if I had concerns or worries I wouldn't have put them in public out too often, if at all.
I trusted Mel, an experienced and successful businessman, to run the club properly and even if I disagreed with some of what he did, as a mere mortal fan, wasn't in a position to change anything or influence him so there we go.
I was bitterly disappointed to see how it's all turned out and, as things have become clearer since his exit, pretty livid - the same as any other Derby fan.
Regardless of all that, I'm not sure how any of my posting performance on here or Twitter is relevant to me saying I'm falling out of love with football and my reasons for doing so? If I am excited by investment in the playing squad or club I promise to complain more going forward?

Ed must be extremely confident in what he's saying or he wouldn't have put this out to get shot at. Either that or he's being strung along by someone trying to put pressure on to get the deal done/collapse so they can step in.
It's just such a mess and from our previous owner to the admins to prospective owners to everyone else involved in the whole sorry saga, it is destroying my interest. Maybe the internet age is to blame but this isn't why I follow football, I follow it as an escape, somewhere I can go for a release and to share a passion with my mates.
Trying to get my head around amortisation methods, takeover structures, tax evasion, blah, blah, blah isn't an escape. Even the answer to all of this, proper regulation by an independent body with clear rules and accountability is so boring. And yet so important - every club in the country is a Mel Morris away from what we're going through.
I just want it done, for people to stop playing games with an institution that means so much to the city. Either it continues or it doesn't but this purgatory is a horrorshow.

Ed must be extremely confident in what he's saying or he wouldn't have put this out to get shot at. Either that or he's being strung along by someone trying to put pressure on to get the deal done/collapse so they can step in.
It's just such a mess and from our previous owner to the admins to prospective owners to everyone else involved in the whole sorry saga, it is destroying my interest. Maybe the internet age is to blame but this isn't why I follow football, I follow it as an escape, somewhere I can go for a release and to share a passion with my mates.
Trying to get my head around amortisation methods, takeover structures, tax evasion, blah, blah, blah isn't an escape. Even the answer to all of this, proper regulation by an independent body with clear rules and accountability is so boring. And yet so important - every club in the country is a Mel Morris away from what we're going through.
I just want it done, for people to stop playing games with an institution that means so much to the city. Either it continues or it doesn't but this purgatory is a horrorshow.

Ed must be extremely confident in what he's saying or he wouldn't have put this out to get shot at. Either that or he's being strung along by someone trying to put pressure on to get the deal done/collapse so they can step in.
It's just such a mess and from our previous owner to the admins to prospective owners to everyone else involved in the whole sorry saga, it is destroying my interest. Maybe the internet age is to blame but this isn't why I follow football, I follow it as an escape, somewhere I can go for a release and to share a passion with my mates.
Trying to get my head around amortisation methods, takeover structures, tax evasion, blah, blah, blah isn't an escape. Even the answer to all of this, proper regulation by an independent body with clear rules and accountability is so boring. And yet so important - every club in the country is a Mel Morris away from what we're going through.
I just want it done, for people to stop playing games with an institution that means so much to the city. Either it continues or it doesn't but this purgatory is a horrorshow.