Rich3478

Of course he’s more productive than bird as you mention, he plays a lot further forward. He obviously has ability but do you agree he struggles to get involved in games at times?
the other issue I think is that when has a poor game is almost impossible to leave on as is like playing with ten.
i like him as a player, he gets shots off and has quality on the ball. But he’s not quick, not particularly strong either. Maybe this wasn’t highlighted as much in academy football but feel there is a large enough body of work from mens football to use that as the sample now.

Of course he’s more productive than bird as you mention, he plays a lot further forward. He obviously has ability but do you agree he struggles to get involved in games at times?
the other issue I think is that when has a poor game is almost impossible to leave on as is like playing with ten.
i like him as a player, he gets shots off and has quality on the ball. But he’s not quick, not particularly strong either. Maybe this wasn’t highlighted as much in academy football but feel there is a large enough body of work from mens football to use that as the sample now.

I’d be amazed with premier league move.  He struggles to get involved in games, that be so much harder for a low end prem team.
Actually think being objective a move is way sibley needs, Coventry being a good one for example.
Would love it to happen at Derby but just can’t see it.

I’d be amazed with premier league move.  He struggles to get involved in games, that be so much harder for a low end prem team.
Actually think being objective a move is way sibley needs, Coventry being a good one for example.
Would love it to happen at Derby but just can’t see it.

Sorry Rich, I quoted the wrong person.

Is zero point basing it on players at the club now, this season I think Millwall finished top half and were relegation threatened with about five games left. Is not much of a gap between the two areas.
not much you can do on recruitment other than wait and see!

No, but signings can be announced. Just can’t be registered to play which is no issue at all.
stoke signing the keeper we were linked with for example

Yep. 
Be nice to keep Sibley if we can, but not worth overpaying for it. 
Same with Collins. He has a bit of value as a late bit of b****** off the bench, but if he wants more than that, he needs to go. 

If PW et al, having seen him perform in pre season training/friendlies don't think he's quite ready, I'm quite happy to accept their opinion. If there's a slight doubt, give him some cameos in August. If the doubts are founded, it's out on loan.

PW has already said, it's in Daj's hands. he produces the goods pre season, he's in. If they think he's not quite ready, he'll go out on loan as part of his development.

I don’t recall many utterly crap pitches last season.

Would be happy with this, seemed like Wildsmith on his way for a while. 
Smith I wouldn’t have minded being back up for Adams but won’t lose any sleep over.
going to be a hugely different team come August.

I don’t recall many utterly crap pitches last season.

I don’t recall many utterly crap pitches last season.

And we’ll ignore Adams being a roaring success in midfield!
and that sibley barely if ever played in midfield.

Barrie is a great shout, saw Stockport looking to sign him permenantly so would hope be very feasible financially for us.

Barrie is a great shout, saw Stockport looking to sign him permenantly so would hope be very feasible financially for us.

I do think he could play the 8 role, is similar to being a 10 with a bit more defensive responsibility.
sibleys main issue at 10 seems to be getting involved in games. Has quality on the ball and gets shots off.
agree he looks good at wing back though. And learning another new position probably not ideal at this stage in his career.

I do think he could play the 8 role, is similar to being a 10 with a bit more defensive responsibility.
sibleys main issue at 10 seems to be getting involved in games. Has quality on the ball and gets shots off.
agree he looks good at wing back though. And learning another new position probably not ideal at this stage in his career.

I think we should have signed him last season at the 250k Bristol Rovers had accepted.  His hold up play at that level is very good and with a run he'd have got goals we were scratching around strikers for.  I also suggested after that, his job would be done and we might even get a fair profit from a relegated side needing goals..  He got 9 in a full season at this level at prime age, he won't be more proficient 3 years later. 
 

Yeah good call on this, i think the £10m ideas are a bit fanciful at this point!
let’s see how he gets on in league one, I’d hope Warne has a look at him in pre season though. If thinks can help the first team then be good to see him play.
If brown plays and scores goals in the championship then £10m would not be a shock!

Yeah agree on him not being cheap, I’d personally go Clarke-Harris over Gayle though. Gayle fitness seems to be an issue and much older. Clarke Harris think would be much more physical, better in the air too.

I also find this new fascination with 22-28 year olds a bit strange.
is never going to be as simple as we won’t sign anyone outside that age bracket. Of course everyone wants young players that will improve and have huge sell on value. So does every other club in the league.
Just want to see what side we put together to start the season, will have a budget from clowes and let’s see where we get. Loans will be a big part of that, as will experienced players, and hopefully we get some players that improve in value too.
think we all need to stop being accountants at some point and just trust that the club will be well ran

Was going to say similar, think he’s a good player. Certainly has moments of quality. 
same post proclaims Adams and Gayle are, Gayle was released after few lean years in championship and had us or port vale to choose from. Adams not gone on to well at Cardiff and dropped a league on loan.
rate Adams massively and Gayle did a great job for us, just found it a very confused post.
 

Agree, the routine of the Saturday 3pm kick offs is a big part of it