Hector was the best

So frustrating that we can't convert all of this good play into more clear-cut chances and, ultimately, a goal or two! We've been all over them so far. The passing has been excellent.

Derby throw in near their corner flag..ends up back with our keeper..

I think Kamil Jozwiak is class, he just seems a little lost in the Derby set up. Always plays decent for Poland. Played well in most games this season, could get better when his mate is back in the team.

Covid has been used under force majeure in many many businesses over the past 18 months.
How?
My business was closed.
My staff were at home.
My supply chain couldn’t supply.
Literally thousands of these cases around.
So the administrators will simply need to prove that the covid caused the administration which in other words is demonstrating that the £20 million cash flow hit caused the inability to trade.
I think they have a decent case.
 

From my understandingly in administration the only outgoing should be essential costs of keeping the lights on as a football club, which is why you see unfortunate layoffs if not deemed essential to this.
They are accountants with the aim of getting the club a new owner. Whilst Mel appealing something like this would have come off as just another Mel vs EFL d*ck measuring contest, the administrators must have found something to prove administration was genuinely the cause of Covid and simply not just another excuse from Mel.
A reduction to the point penalty would increase our saleability after all and administrators would not spend 300k frivolously, so we'll see...

I'm not sure if I agree with you here.
Wigan's administration was at the start of Covid (July 2020), so the effects would have been no where near as damaging. On 4 June 2020, the owners sold the majority of Wigan Athletic shareholdings to Hong Kong-based Next Leader Fund, who didn't invest.  Their main issue was the new owners and not Covid. Wigan would have gone into administration even if Covid never happened.
You could argue that Derby were able to service their debts and operating overheads and had been doing so until Covid. This took £20m out of the coffers and Derby (unlike Wigan) had a whole season and a bit in closed stadiums before administration (September 2021).
I do agree that we would have been less likely to go under without the debt, that said our debt is lower than a lot of others clubs such as Reading. Our overheads are also small, wages are probably £15m per season unlike 2-3 years ago. Also our FFP/P&S is not as high as people think it is, Reading (sorry to mention them again) overspent by £10m's more than Derby.    
Gibson's argument is personal, if not why has he not sued half the clubs who were promoted and why didn't we sue QPR when they went up. Nothing will happen with Gibson and his legal challenges.
I don't see what Derby are doing as any different to what anyone else would do, certainly other clubs such as SWFC, BCFC have appealed and had points reduced and Reading are in the process of trying to negotiate a lower deduction. 
People need to have a look at the debt levels of all clubs as well as operating expenses as they seem to think Derby have the biggest debt, biggest FFP overspend and biggest wage bill. Non of that is accurate by a long way.   

Who is to say the appeal may not be being funded by one of the potential buyers?
For Derby to stay in the Championship would be high on a list of priorities for any potential buyer.

Have you seen Forests accounts ? They are atrocious even taking into account the “legal” transfers between the 2 clubs with the same owner. He is apparently losing patience as he thought he would be in the Prem by now. Don’t think it will be long before they and a few others will be far behind DCFC in the financial do do. 

Yes .. come clean EFL or we will challenge = let’s have a compromise that settles it at one season only deductions so we can save this club and maybe make you, the EFL look like grown ups with little  bit of integrity. 

Not sure I agree with your opening statement.Surely If there had been sufficient funds available then the club wouldn’t have needed to go into administration. Therefore, it caused us to go into administration. Severe cash flow difficulties is a common cause of administration not an effect.

For 300k we might as well take a stab at it. I can't imagine it'll get anywhere but if it does those 12 points will end up being precious. If they tack on another 9 we're done anyway and no way will we survive that. I personally am not overly optimistic about surviving the 12 point penalty as it is, after-all once winter comes around with injuries and fixtures piling up the thin squad is going to creak and show in our points tally but we need to make a fist of it. 

Let’s not also forget, they let the London clubs open up their stadiums for a brief while too. Even though that area was rife with Covid. We were never allowed to open even though we had to prepare to open up and spent thousands on producing stickers and notices and paying for them to be placed around the ground. These were never used in the period they were designed for.

I would presume the administrators are not emotionally involved in their task other than a successful outcome for their company. They have complete access to all the information available while we only have bits and rumours.
If they believe there is a case to be made with the points then it could potentially make us far more saleable.
To liken them to a pound shop Mel Morris makes you appear like you want them, and Derby, to fail.

It’s highly likely we will have new owners by January. If they can sign players then I see no reason why we wouldn’t stay up.
We’ve only lost 3 games out of 11 this season. One of those being late with 10 men and the other being even later with 2 goals in added time. To say that a squad that’s achieved that isn’t good enough is barmy. We still have players to come back from injury too.
I can’t believe you wouldn’t want to fight with everything we have to stay in this league. There is no guarantees of coming back from League 1 anytime soon. Also the tv money in League 1 is something like £1.5m per team then £30k per game picked for tv (which is hardly ever). The Championship is something like £7m per club then £100k per game on tv.
£300k is insignificant when comparing those numbers. Even if we make a good go of staying up and end up with 3 matches late in the season on sky for a relegation battle then we’ve covered that.

The administrators must think it is winnable and if won will help them get more for the club and that way more for the creditors as I believe is their job

we have a skeleton squad and ffp troubles (the next accounting period may also lead to deductions). a club in the championship will still have to spend money to compete again, league 1 may slow the proccess but it will also mean a cheaper club and let them mould it in their own way and time.
what makes us an attractive club is lowering the stupid price a buyer has to pay with very little to show for it.
we all may have different opinions on this but i really think people are wrong (and the administrators) when they put so much weight in what division we are going to be in. 

League 1 a lot less attractive. Could be down there for ever. Need to fight any points deduction if possible. 

Glad you’re not playing for us

you are chasing results on the pitch. It is the exact reason we are in the mess in the first place.
administrators should be focusing on sorting the club off the pitch, and on the pitch will sort itself out.
Championship or league one, we are not an attractive club to buy regardless.

do we know it's that much? are the grounds we are appealing on actually worth persuing? we are going to have to recoup that money from somewhere. 
300k here, 300k there, it all adds up. the club is in a mess, if they want to find buyers they need to get the buyer the lowest price possible. If they are just adding cost after cost in a futile attempt to keep us in a division which we are doomed to go down in then it's a waste of resources.
just my opinion, sorry if i seem all doom and gloom but i do not trust these administrators. I didnt think the squad was good enough to even compete this season, a good first few months dont really change the huge hole we have in the playing squad - once we go on a bad set of results will we recover? we are looking at a playoff season to even stay in the division and this is a weaker set of players that rooney kept up with the skin of their teeth.

I know we all have hope because of our excellent start but that's exactly what it is. When the results sour in the busy winter period then what? For me it's about using the little money we have wisely, appealing points deductions is not good use of resources. What if the appeal fails? oh it's okay, the tea lady can go - that should cover it. It is a waste of money, we will be incredibly lucky to stay up even without any deductions.

Despite our excellent results so far this squad isnt good enough to stay in this division, you throw in a points penalty whatever it may be, i am sure we will have more penalties coming.
 
it's a complete waste of time and resources. we should be planning life for league one and that should be along the lines of savouring every penny we have - not fighting stupid legal battles. So if its not staff that are suffering, we are gonna have to pay that bill with a player sale in january anyway.

Anyone arguing that appealing is a waste of money and we should have used it for those that have been made redundant need to realise that without appealing there’s a good chance more jobs will be lost if we end up in league 1. If we stay in the Championship by a point or 2 because of a won appeal, then we’re protecting more jobs in the longer term and those that lost jobs may possibly get them back.

If Derby get a further 9 points they are relegated, so of course Derby have to appeal the 12 points already given.
Problem is the appeal against the points route been tried before and it failed.
It's very tough in League One as my understanding is that all clubs have very limited wage budget plus their transfer budgets are the same in as much as they are not allowed to spend beyond a certain amount on transfers.
That was designed to give a competitive level playing field.
Since derbys wages are potentially already to high, if in League One it would mean bringing in new players could be very difficult.
Plus I thought I read that Rooney wouldn't stay at Derby if they are relegated.
When I look at League bias it's very clear that the it exists in the championship, even without derbys transfer embargo, the clubs only allowed to spend a set amount on wages and transfers but those clubs relegated from the Premier league have Premier league quality players plus they get massive parachute payments over 3 years meaning they can be promoted very quickly.
So clubs without the luxury of parachute payments are hamstrung in terms of ability to compete.
 

Boils down to 1 question:
If COVID hadn't happened would DCFC be in administration right now? Everything points towards no.
Doesn't matter how much of the mess we are in is down to financial mismanagement, if losses because of COVID contributed to pushing us over the edge then we wouldn't have been in admin without it.
COVID is a force majeure event. That's not up for debate.
Will the EFL try and argue admin was down to Mel stopping funding the club? Most likely that's the route they will take.
But it's a fact we have lost £20million+ due to COVID stopping revenue.