Ramarena

I'm sick of it. Why do we have to make it look so complicated.
I thought this under Cocu, overcoaching. When Wayne got the job, he talked about simplifying things for the players and I liked the sound of that. And actually I think that was one of the big reasons why we went on that good run. What happened to that?
Football is a simple game, just let the players play. 

This is pretty much a first from me after all these years on the site. Its a very rare venture into commenting on the matchday thread. 
I dont usually comment because im too emotionally involved in the outcome and get far too knee jerk in my post match reactions with either a win or a loss. 
Huge hug to all my fellow Rams fans right now. A pandemic to deal with, total lock down for most so the excitement of finally getting out and about and for some even going to a stadium to watch a game. 
And what do we get? Dross.. utter dross. Today was a bit of a final straw for me and I feel a need to comment. 
Its actually truly shambolic. Us older ones have seen sustainable shambolic performances before so we know it when we see it. 
For example... the goal kicks that now Curtis takes sideways to Roos. A cunning plan of extraordinary measures.. or just admitting our goal keeper is a better kicker than our defenders.
Why.... WHY have we got 4 holding midfielders?!!! Ravel, Billy Backwards, Graham ” The Trap ” Shinnie and Capt Tom all played there today. Its feckin retarded. I dont even understand where this particular ” plan” comes from. You would assume that Rooney remembers how they set up at United in his playing career. Cant remember Scholes, Butt, Beckham and Cantona all playing holding mid...at the same time...in the same game. You would also assume Rooney and side kick watch other games both live and on telly. I cant recall one team in the history of modern football playing 4 holding mids! This plan we have must be genius huh?
Lawrence being made captain!! Again... I assume they reckon giving him leadership responsibility will up his game.
Tell you what a leader does. When we get a penalty in a pre season friendly, the leader figures out its a good idea to give the chance to score to young Stretton. Try to up the lads confidence and get his goal scoring for first team up and running. But no... our leader decides its a good time to show off and take a fancy peno. 
I could go on for hours. Its just too painful in relative terms. They are even laughing at us! 
Again.huge hug to you all. Try to enjoy the rest of the weekend. 
Us older ones also remember a team being put together of players you didnt know or had hardly ever heard of in the late 60s who went on to conquer the land. We can dream. 
 
 
 

100%
The coaches are overthinking and in their own heads. It makes about 6 players out of position when there is a turn over.
Everyone goes on about pretty, attacking football, fluid passing moves. At the moment I would be happy with matt smith up front and smash it at him for 90mins and go from there.

The problem at this football club is not the manager.
That being said, I do not like this tactic we attempt to execute while in possession.
The full backs go right up the pitch as wingers, the holding midfielders go to full back, the attacking midfielders drop in and try and dictate things from deep.
It just leaves us so open and disjointed. When it breaks down, we're at sixes and sevens.
We want to see more from our captain Tom Lawrence this season, but we won't if he's playing as a defensive midfielder. 
It just doesn't work. Stop doing it. 

But when we are in the position we are in, very small squad, lack of experienced players, lack of confidence, why is our inexperienced manager not keeping things simple.
Today we had Lawrence touching the ball more times taking the ball from the centre backs than in the attacking half of the field.
Graham Shinnie appeared to be playing at left back.
We had centre halfs taking goal kicks, passing the ball 5 yards to Roos, immediately putting the defence under pressure as Peterborough sussed it out.
We wasted free kicks trying to be clever when all we needed was a ball into the box where our big men were waiting.
Then Wayne brings off Morrison and brings on Joz to close the game out.
I'm struggling to see how any of it makes sense.
Yes, it's easy to say would anyone be calling for Wayne to go if we had held on for a win, but let's face it, a win would only have papered over the cracks which are showing no signs of disappearing.

Yes, the tactics were totally unfathomable until we bought Sibley on! 

My favourite part of the tactics is getting  the players to completely switch positions during the game to confuse the opposition!
I mean who’d expect us play Lawrence as a part time CDM?

This is true but equally you wonder whether a different manager may be able to extract the extra 5%-10% from the players, that we need to survive.
Not the problem, but certainly a problem or at the very least not the solution. It may well be difficult to change the manager now, it’s sheer lunacy we tied ourselves to two more years of him when we made him manager.

My favourite part of the tactics is getting  the players to completely switch positions during the game to confuse the opposition!
I mean who’d expect us play Lawrence as a part time CDM?

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Not much I can say after that. Apart from the fact I’m gutted and that our fans were bloody brilliant yet again.

No,they all deserve it i.m.o.
Rooney had been let down by his bosses but he took on a job he isn't qualified or suited to at this stage of his career and he seems unable to learn from his mistakes whilst managing and coaching which is even more to our detriment.
His worst aspect however is his misguided self belief and he won't admit it's too big a job for him and walk away.

See above,Mac or wassell or preferably both.
Already on our books and both talented coaches which is what we need in our predicament,we need to bring the talents of the squad to the fore before it's too late.

Didn’t think it’d be possible, but the tactics look more clueless this season than last season!

On our position we need a manager that maximises what we have.
Not one that hamstrings us from kick off.

Roy, take your Rooney pictures down off your bedroom wall and get yourself out of his backside. 
 

I think today showed although Rooney might be trying his best, an older head who's not learning on the job would be our best chance or survival.
 

That was just a foul in the middle of the pitch - happens to everyone who plays there

Why was there 10min of added time? What happened?
 
 

Mate,he made an error but my contention is that our tactics,coaching and gameplay inevitably leads to pressure on the players who will eventually start making silly mistakes.

we're done aren't we. Might as well start singing 'we're going down' and embrace it. First half was pretty dire from both teams, we had all the tempo of a walking football team and the penetration of a 1,000 year old rusted sword. Partly due to the strange decision to ensure our most creative players pick the ball up in the defensive third and focus all our attacking energy on the right hand side thereby leaving CKR isolated. It's not going to work, it looked sh** in pre-season and it looks sh** now. Defensively, we looked rocky the few times peterborough mustered the quality to string a few passes together but fortunately they were few and far between. 

Second half it opened up and we abandoned our very odd horseshoe tactic. There was some tempo and as Sibley got on the ball we looked more likely to make something happen. The middle of the park was there for us to run into ensuring a solid counter but very rarely did we actually do much in terms of chance creation. Another goal from a set piece but from open play just like last season we really struggle to actually create real chances. 

The lack of a backbone for the last 20 minutes was absolutely appalling and downright shameful. I thought at the very least they'd have acquired one given the events off the pitch but apparently not. First goal was the result of about 3 different errors; Stearman screwing the header, Kamil not tracking and Byrne on his heels not following the man in. Then it was all Peterborough as we were completely panicked and were unable to cope. Second goal again the result of at least 2 blunders from Davies and Bird getting in each other's way and then Byrne making an absolute hash of it. But Peterborough deserved the win overall, they offered more going forward and although they are very shaky at the back they did one thing we didn't... they never gave up. 

I wish the prediction league table was still a thing as unfortunately got both the first two results correct. 

Sibley comes on and we finally start breaking through the lines.
Back to the bench next game……naughty boy!

Any other year,any other season and any other set of circumstances and Wayne would have been sacked or would have walked.
But this is going to grind on until we are relegated,it's a never ending football nightmare with not a glimmer of hope for us.
What's our record for losing consecutive league games,surely can't be many more than 17 can it?

That was a hard watch.
Even away from the goals, that was difficult to endure as a Derby fan.
It's not like the team was full of youngsters, there were enough senior/experienced players out there.
Kazim-Richards is the one player we could ill afford to lose.

Mate,if the tactics and set up don't click then the game plans going to go to rat poo and errors are going to start slipping in..it puts the team under massive pressure and they begin to panic and starting making poor decisions.
You don't get those mistakes when the team knows what it's doing,everyone knows their role and confidence grows amongst everyone.
It's chaos out there at the moment,players in the wrong roles,defenders attacking and attackers defending,it's a recipe for disaster which is what we are seeing.
17 league matches without a win now isn't it and we are still no further forwards in terms of a cohesive style of play.