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@RoyMac5 must have been on the bog when this news broke about Ashley. 

I have said it before and will continue to do so. The EFL have Peter Ridsdale on their board. The same Peter Ridsdale who was banned from being a director of any company from 2012-2020 for siphoning £350k into his personal bank account not a business account. 
The EFL ladies and gentlemen, rotten to the core. 

Dont we all.

Both statements from MFC have been written by a kid on a YTS scheme. Cannot believe that a professional outfit should write absolute garbage and childish name calling.
As much as MM is 100% to blame, you cannot argue with the detailed and considered response.
MFC are a Mickley mouse outfit run by petty clowns. So hope they fail miserably to go up and get hit by FFP.

I remember him saying that he’d put DCFC into administration as he felt the EFL were biased against him and wouldn’t consider the issues fairly whilst he was still the owner. That is consistent with him seeing that they are continuing their vendetta against the club in his absence, so deciding to get back involved again. 

In the meantime, a team with 8k supporters playing in this league, have two players up top that cost 34 million pounds plus another that cost 15 million in midfield. More than enough to save us with plenty left.  Add 5 loans in as well. 
Derby BOOOOOOooooo. Cheats........ Unfair advantage.........  Put them in the conference .. Liquidate.....
Feck off.

Interesting that this cheaper and quicker system has taken over a year not to be heard and that it can be delayed still longer by M’s lawyers not being available until May 

And how can they believe they should be football creditors if they haven't seen the claims?

Absolutely bizarre that the EFL have said they should be defended as football debts without even seeing the cases.
Does anyone actually believe any of the tripe that they come out with?

You twits you just made me watch the 94 playoff on youtube, sadly it's all come back to me now.

On the funny brain tangent, I'll leave this here and stop side-tacking the thread. I just love how some folks' minds work  ?

Funny indeed...

Could you explain that in english please. 

Out of interest I wandered onto a Derby County thread on a Middlesbrough forum. Unsurprisingly they seem to have the view that Steve Gibson is an honest owner who plays by the rules and Mel Morris is a dishonest owner who cheats. When someone mentions Steve Gibson moving profit around his different companies to keep Middlesbrough the right side of P&S/FFP (as referenced in Mel Morris’ statement on Friday) they say it is normal business practice. But so is what Mel Morris did at Derby with amortisation! I can’t see the difference other than the EFL worked a charge against Derby (to avoid being sued by Middlesbrough) and Mel Morris put Derby into administration. It is not a big stretch to see a set of circumstances where the EFL could have worked a charge against Middlesbrough and Steve Gibson put Middlesbrough into administration. I guess the Middlesbrough fans only know some elements of the Derby story and are fed propoganda from the North East? But the difference in their views of Steve Gibson and Mel Morris were to me quite shocking.
(I am no fan of Mel Morris by the way, he is still the root cause of Derby’s current issues).

I'm thinking of going into Sports Direct, filling a trolley and when I get to the Till, demand that they only charge me cost price. See how I get on.... 

so Ashley Bid is well below the expected figure, less than the Binnies and a bid which would have resulted in us starting next season with -15 points. 
He’s now reportedly “fuming” when the admins tell him to **** off and put a serious bid in. 
Beggars belief 
 
 

No it doesn’t. It means it isn’t the best offer available to the Creditors.

I believe the the story is suggesting there is an insurance policy that could be taken out at a cost of £2.5m, not that we already have a policy in place.

They’re idiots - £40m gate receipts?

I've just had a look at the QPR forum and found this:
"if not said already, where has all their money gone from the play off final v us, clubs agreed losing team took the money, i think around £40m that's a chunk of dosh"
So apparently we've got £80m lying around somewhere from our two play-off finals 

Mel's statement was designed to flush out intent. Does Gibson want compensation for his perceived loss as he claims or does he want to just destroy dcfc? 
I agree they may well say its dcfc they are after and Mel may well have to indemnify dcfc but at least now the pressure has just sky rocketed on the parasites and the EFL. 
 

They should say absolutely nothing at this stage. And ‘we’ should not be encouraging them to make a statement (not that they will be swayed by fan opinions). If Morris has done one thing he has shone a big media spotlight on both Gibson and the EFL. Quantuma should say nothing until both the other parties have put out their response, which they will be hounded to do early next week by media outlets, MPs, and supporter groups. Once they have made their reply Quantuma can use though replies to their better advantage.

Could it now be any clearer? In the space of 48 hours the EFL have stated BOTH that the club has the offer of EITHER 'impartial' arbitration OR the High Courts as a means to satisfy claims AND that they now acknowledges MFC/WWFC as football creditors, which would leave arbitration as the sole route forward. Wholly contradictory statements and yet another example of their contemptuous abuse of power. There has been no discussion, no arbitration and no independent input to this decision, rather it is a call made arbitrarily and unilaterally by the EFL board with no outside consultation and in contravention of their own directives. Do these clowns even read what they regurgitate into the public domain? Do they not even cross-reference the claims made in one with the other? The inconsistencies (read: huge ducking porkies) are glaring and have been for two years now. Likewise Gibson who appears to have the attention span of a hungry toddler and the linguistic skills of one too.
Heads must now roll at the EFL. There is NO ROOM FOR DOUBT anymore. In their poorly conceived and executed PR campaign seeking to shift the onus to Morris, the admins and even the 'highest bidder', they have absolutely tied themselves in knots and in doing so, have threatened both the stability and integrity of the League they are meant to govern and serve. 
At this point, the 72 member clubs simply must act. There can be no remaining doubt that the EFL prioritises its own interests over those of its member clubs. Ladies and gentlemen, the tail is clearly wagging the dog. This is, of course, a wholly unacceptable state of affairs and will inevitably lead to chaos should the precedent they seek to set be entertained. Every subsequent season will start with multiple different fixture lists as the governing body and civil courts wade through dozens of spurious football related claims, clubs will be forced into admin and /or liquidation and the league system as we know it, will fail. A vote of no confidence and the immediate resignations of Rick Parry and Trevor Birch are now mandatory requirements on the long road back to credible and impartial governance of the League. For any governing body, as custodians of football, to bring bring the English game into such hopeless disrepute is simply unforgiveable and action must be taken sooner rather than later, irrespective of the situation at Derby County.
As for Messrs Gibson and Couhig, your bluff has now been called. If you truly believe in the veracity of your claims and are not simply looking to leverage the threat of liquidation to extort funds from a club who has already accepted its punishment (in keeping with the EFL's own directives), it's time for you to accept Mr Morris's offer of your day in court. Any other course of action will merely confirm suspicions of the very unsavoury motivations that have led to what appears to have been a merit-less witch-hunt borne solely out of greed and petty personal grievances. I'm looking at you specifically Gibson. You chose to prioritise continuing your spat with Mel Morris over the future of the club, the welfare of it's employees, the sustainability of local businesses and the mental health of the wider community. This will NEVER be forgotten, nor forgiven. I speak only for myself when I say that having been a chairman whom I once held in high regard, I have now come to despise everything for which you stand. 
I trust also that those on this forum who openly mocked posters who for two years have openly expressed the view that the EFL's treatment of Derby County Football Club has been less than impartial, will now take time to think about whether said posts were fair, warranted or helpful. Hindsight, it is true, is a wonderful thing, but so too is an open mind.
A last thought in regards to Mel Morris; Mel, I was one of your staunchest supporters. I was wrong. It broke my heart when you placed the club into administration. Perhaps there are mitigating circumstances as yet unknown, but we are where we are and you sir, were the custodian of this club we all love. Inevitably, the buck stops with you. All of this notwithstanding, thank you for the steps you have now taken to break the impasse. What's done can't be changed, but I do hope that this will at least give harsher critics some small pause for thought. 

Re this being a MFC vs DCFC thing and that being the basis for Gibson declining Mel’s offer:
If that’s the case, what is MFC’s endgame here? If they win, there’s no money to pay them so it’s liquidation. Gibson knows that, so if that’s the intended endgame fine, but please don’t trot out meaningless platitudes about not wanting us liquidated and not wanting the fans to suffer because rejecting Mel’s offer makes it abundantly clear to everyone that liquidation is their required outcome.
If it’s about recouping lost earnings then Mel’s just given you the perfect route. The only route. The catch, no kangaroo court to deliver your fait accompli verdict, so how confident are you with your fairytale claims?
Gibson can easily decline this, but there’s no real way of doing it without looking like a proper c***. It’s also the EFL’s only and last chance to avoid setting a precedent that will have huge, negative, ramifications for the future of football.