StarterForTen

A person I know who has seen next season's home shirt described it as 'like a cloth that has been used to clean a paint brush'
Not a comment to fill your heart with hope!

No, worse than that. They need battering 

Perhaps the Rooneys. That libel trial did seem to go very well for Colleen. Maybe she’s looking to invest a windfall..?!!

Can't help but believe this is agent shenanigans at play.

He'd be the perfect LCB in a Wilder team

Hi HB
I will try and unpick the different elements.
In respect of the 12 point deduction for going into administration, it seems fair, Wigan were subject to a similar deduction when they went into admin themselves. The claim that Covid was the sole reason for administration is a weak one as (a) why did it not happen to other clubs? and (b) there were already significant sums owed to HMRC prior to Covid. 
For the stadium issue, whilst the rules seem daft, they were still the rules. I'm not qualified to value stadiums, but have spoken to people who are, and so think the club was correctly found not guilty on this issue.  
As far as amortisation is concerned, it's a tricky one. Neither Mel Morris nor Stephen Pearce were the architects of the change to the accounting policy, but they were happy to utilise it and the short term benefits it gave to the club's P&S calculations. 
IMO, I think the new policy was in breach of FRS 102 and reduced losses by about £30m. I have had a discussion with Stephen Pearce in relation to this, and we professionally agreed to disagree. 
It is then the responsibility of those prosecuting to put the case put forward for the EFL at the IDC. The case presented was weak, their expert witness put forward a muddled explanation, and if you lose, as they did, then they should have accepted it with good grace, and not appealed the first ruling. 
As for having an agenda against Derby, I would defend myself on this. I monitor and comment on social media in relation to all clubs in England and Scotland (and Wales) because I'm very boring and have no friends. The aim is to be objective and non-partisan, I have even been known to say positive things about Crystal Palace, who as a Brighton fan, I loathe. I've provided assistance (unpaid) to staff members affected by the administration, contributed £92 to the 'buy a ticket' crowdfunder for DCFC fans, and whilst I fully understand that some people are sick and tired of hearing my voice on t'radio and comments in the written press, the media contact me, not the other way round. More than happy to take on board criticism, although the death threats on social media (not this forum) are not pleasant to receive. 

So Neville is claiming more than a decade of rancid ownership? Yet one transfer window with a total outlay of the value of a Jack Grealish has them a top ten PL team? Can’t have been that bad to begin with then. 

So Neville is claiming more than a decade of rancid ownership? Yet one transfer window with a total outlay of the value of a Jack Grealish has them a top ten PL team? Can’t have been that bad to begin with then. 

Maybe the REAL deadline is the date in May (24th?) when players have to be offered new terms by if they are not to become free agents without any development rights attached?

Maybe the REAL deadline is the date in May (24th?) when players have to be offered new terms by if they are not to become free agents without any development rights attached?

The announcement will come on Monday….
It will be a further extension and that Max Bird has been sold to Norwich for £1m to cover club costs for the month.

#PureSpeculation

The announcement will come on Monday….
It will be a further extension and that Max Bird has been sold to Norwich for £1m to cover club costs for the month.

#PureSpeculation

anyone who thinks MA (or anyone else for that matter) can submit a plan to the EFL that doesn't pay off debts BUT does allow a spending spree needs to lay down the crack-pipe and give their head a wobble.
The EFL would never allow such a snide business plan, and if the club deviates from the agreed business plan, further point deductions and umbongos are inflicted.
Stop pining for some ridiculous notion that someone is gonna spend money above and beyond the sensible, cos it ain't happening.

Could MA and CK join forces with Steve McLaren for.... return of the MACK 4!!
 

Could MA and CK join forces with Steve McLaren for.... return of the MACK 4!!
 

Could MA and CK join forces with Steve McLaren for.... return of the MACK 4!!
 

The thing is, the Council owning the stadium will NOT have any effect on it's ability to fund the provision of core services to City of Derby rates payers. Public bodies like the City Council have access to centrally-provided capital project funding for the building and/or protection of community assets at loan rates far more favourable than commercial business mortgages and I would be gob-smacked if the council were contemplating the purchase of the stadium with any other funding than this.
If, as has been reported, the funding is in place then I assume the caveats for qualifying for this funding have been met. I don't live in Derby any more but a council near to where I do now live - City of York - used access too this fund to build the new community stadium there, with borrowing secured at 2.9% interest.
If the same applied for Derby, borrowing £20m (assumed stadium purchase price) would cost £580,000 a year - that's about £1 for every ticket sold this season - and a bargain in terms of funding. I don't know, but I would guess the cost of servicing the Dell loan is three times that level.
The Council will only be exposed if the Club can't pay the ground rent at some point in the future.

Does anyone anywhere have a 'spare' £20million?
But then I'm the pedantic so-and-so that wonders what 'spare change' is too. Isn't it just money, like the rest of what you may have?!!

The thing is, the Council owning the stadium will NOT have any effect on it's ability to fund the provision of core services to City of Derby rates payers. Public bodies like the City Council have access to centrally-provided capital project funding for the building and/or protection of community assets at loan rates far more favourable than commercial business mortgages and I would be gob-smacked if the council were contemplating the purchase of the stadium with any other funding than this.
If, as has been reported, the funding is in place then I assume the caveats for qualifying for this funding have been met. I don't live in Derby any more but a council near to where I do now live - City of York - used access too this fund to build the new community stadium there, with borrowing secured at 2.9% interest.
If the same applied for Derby, borrowing £20m (assumed stadium purchase price) would cost £580,000 a year - that's about £1 for every ticket sold this season - and a bargain in terms of funding. I don't know, but I would guess the cost of servicing the Dell loan is three times that level.
The Council will only be exposed if the Club can't pay the ground rent at some point in the future.

The thing is, the Council owning the stadium will NOT have any effect on it's ability to fund the provision of core services to City of Derby rates payers. Public bodies like the City Council have access to centrally-provided capital project funding for the building and/or protection of community assets at loan rates far more favourable than commercial business mortgages and I would be gob-smacked if the council were contemplating the purchase of the stadium with any other funding than this.
If, as has been reported, the funding is in place then I assume the caveats for qualifying for this funding have been met. I don't live in Derby any more but a council near to where I do now live - City of York - used access too this fund to build the new community stadium there, with borrowing secured at 2.9% interest.
If the same applied for Derby, borrowing £20m (assumed stadium purchase price) would cost £580,000 a year - that's about £1 for every ticket sold this season - and a bargain in terms of funding. I don't know, but I would guess the cost of servicing the Dell loan is three times that level.
The Council will only be exposed if the Club can't pay the ground rent at some point in the future.

The thing is, the Council owning the stadium will NOT have any effect on it's ability to fund the provision of core services to City of Derby rates payers. Public bodies like the City Council have access to centrally-provided capital project funding for the building and/or protection of community assets at loan rates far more favourable than commercial business mortgages and I would be gob-smacked if the council were contemplating the purchase of the stadium with any other funding than this.
If, as has been reported, the funding is in place then I assume the caveats for qualifying for this funding have been met. I don't live in Derby any more but a council near to where I do now live - City of York - used access too this fund to build the new community stadium there, with borrowing secured at 2.9% interest.
If the same applied for Derby, borrowing £20m (assumed stadium purchase price) would cost £580,000 a year - that's about £1 for every ticket sold this season - and a bargain in terms of funding. I don't know, but I would guess the cost of servicing the Dell loan is three times that level.
The Council will only be exposed if the Club can't pay the ground rent at some point in the future.

The thing is, the Council owning the stadium will NOT have any effect on it's ability to fund the provision of core services to City of Derby rates payers. Public bodies like the City Council have access to centrally-provided capital project funding for the building and/or protection of community assets at loan rates far more favourable than commercial business mortgages and I would be gob-smacked if the council were contemplating the purchase of the stadium with any other funding than this.
If, as has been reported, the funding is in place then I assume the caveats for qualifying for this funding have been met. I don't live in Derby any more but a council near to where I do now live - City of York - used access too this fund to build the new community stadium there, with borrowing secured at 2.9% interest.
If the same applied for Derby, borrowing £20m (assumed stadium purchase price) would cost £580,000 a year - that's about £1 for every ticket sold this season - and a bargain in terms of funding. I don't know, but I would guess the cost of servicing the Dell loan is three times that level.
The Council will only be exposed if the Club can't pay the ground rent at some point in the future.

My brother is in the directors box at Celtic today and swears Tom Lawrence is sitting two rows in front of him.

SNAP!!

In fairness, the EFL is a relatively small organisation with maybe 4 or 5 senior executive offices. I would guess a lot of their attention since the Rams' business plan was submitted has been taken up with the government's announcement over the future of English football.