AndyinLiverpool

It is a delicate balance. But everyone that argues against this positive discrimination seems to think that it’s going to directly affect their kids’ prospects. In the grand scheme of things, Sol Campbell getting an interview for a managers job, or Eni Aluko on the tele is not going to make a difference to the average person’s job prospects either way.
i have sons and daughters. I don’t feel like my daughters having more opportunities specifically means my sons have less opportunities. I’m not worried about that at all. I’m just glad my daughters have more opportunities in a fairer society.
positive discrimination is not going to bring down society. It will bring more positivity than negativity, but the joey Barton’s of this world would have you believe it’s the end of the world.
the other problem is, people are too quick to say ‘I didn’t get that job, some black lady with one arm got it because they had to tick a box, I’m against positive discrimination.’ It doesn’t work like that. The black lady with one arm is just better at the job, but people are too willing to blame society for their own deficiencies.
joey Barton will miss out for a managerial role to a black manager, and he’ll blame society, not considering he might just be a shot manager (unless it’s Paul ince, then there’s something dodgy going on).  

Personally think Barton's assertion is wrong, although I agree that it annoys me more when women commentating on the game. I'm not afraid to say though that's probably a generation thing, as the rest of my family dont have an issue with it.
 
That's why I think he is wrong though, it's not a box ticking exercise, the world has moved on, football has moved on, a lot more girls play the game now and therefore a woman commentator is more appealing to the wider target audience than it used to be. 

Politics students will undoubtedly recall the name of Anthony Arblaster, author of The Rise and Decline of Western Liberalism. 
Still have my copy somewhere on our shelves.

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Who says they are incompetent? They are no more or less so than those male ex-players on the punditry gravy train. Do you really think TV producers asked each other, 'Who can we get to say something interesting and incisive about football?' and they came up with answers like Alan Shearer and Graeme Souness?
Personally, I'm glad the world is moving on from one where being male and white is enough in itself to give someone a leg up.

https://www.arsenal.com/nomorered

Who says they are incompetent? They are no more or less so than those male ex-players on the punditry gravy train. Do you really think TV producers asked each other, 'Who can we get to say something interesting and incisive about football?' and they came up with answers like Alan Shearer and Graeme Souness?
Personally, I'm glad the world is moving on from one where being male and white is enough in itself to give someone a leg up.

Of course we see people in the street, at work, at school of different minorities all the time these days. It’s about representing them in attainable positions.
Like it or not, your kids were born with an advantage over their minority class mates. And the fact that Ian Wright is a pundit with two women, doesn’t reduce that advantage. But it does let little black boys and girls see that there is hope for them, they can attain and have the same ambitions as anyone else.
As I said, I like to think I don’t see colour, I don’t care either way, and I’m positive my kids certainly don’t. And isn’t that great. But it’s like taking anti biotics even after you start feeling better. Or advertising for Pepsi (we all know what Pepsi is now, why do they spend so much on marketing). If this awareness raising just suddenly stopped then we’d quite quickly be back to square one. It’ll take a generation of effort before it can start to dial back.
and joey’s comments just help to set it back. 2 steps forward, 1 step back. So guess what, as long as there are people like joey Barton, and people liking and perpetuating his messages, the problem isn’t fixed, and there will be initiatives against it. And if one thing doesn’t work, they’ll try another.
Over representation of minorities might not be the answer. But they’ll keep trying things. And I’ll tell you what, things like doctor who, super girl, more representation of women in football etc. it has helped to normalise it in my head, and it has helped my kids to normalise it. So I genuinely think it does help.
If you watch super girl, you’d think that every second person in metropolis is somewhere in the rainbow spectrum. It’s clearly over represented. But before long, it’s not a thing anymore, they’re just characters. And that’s fine.
it was a bit weird when I heard my first female commentator. But now it genuinely doesn’t even register with me. They all know more than me, so it’s all good insight.

Politics students will undoubtedly recall the name of Anthony Arblaster, author of The Rise and Decline of Western Liberalism. 
Still have my copy somewhere on our shelves.

What’s wrong with a box ticking exercise though? It’s about representation. It would be nice to say ‘let it happen organically’, but you have to force the issue sometimes and force representation to kick start it. In a generations time, hopefully it will be organic. The backlash these days is because it’s forced. But that’s necessary to make things happen and break the cycle.
I've got daughters, and there is so much more positive representation for them these days than when my sisters were kids. And I’m very happy about that.
i wonder if joey Barton has daughters or nieces, and if he expects them to shut up and cook his dinner, or if he hopes for something better for them.
its just very sad that as much as he may truly believe these things, what he’s really doing is putting on a character, like a heel in wrestling, because that panders to a certain audience, and that gets more likes and shares. And far from representing those that need the leg up, he gives a voice and representation to the bigots and small minded people who have ruled the world for thousands of years. Those that really need to fade away and make way for the kids.

What were you doing while it was 0-2?

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I don't think you're allowed to give Bradley any credit

What were you doing while it was 0-2?

Briliant from Bird ...just play football and look what happens !!

Set up for the counter I guess. It does drive me nuts that we always try to see games out when it’s clearly not our strength, wish we’d just keep going forward relentlessly. 

What were you doing while it was 0-2?

Derby conceded so our number one fan re-emerges. 

What were you doing while it was 0-2?

I don't think you're allowed to give Bradley any credit

I don't think you're allowed to give Bradley any credit

I don't think you're allowed to give Bradley any credit

To be fair, from the TV camera angle at least, it looked like the defender won the ball. It’s only after replays you can see that the defender takes TJJ’s foot and that’s what knocks the ball in that direction.
It’s not a horrendous error like we’ve seen before, it’s one that will happen when you don’t have VAR.

Hard to get anyone better in this league !
Please put down your phone number so we can all ring you up every five minutes 

You need to get rid of your wife. I hope the cat’s OK.