From being hard done by, to being despised?

[DavesaRam]

On 17/05/2022 at 19:10, KBB said:

Do we need to have a sign in or outside the ground listing everything thst has happened since we "got off easy" off the top of my head

1. Docked 21 points

2. Relegated

3. Transfer embargo for God knows how long

4. Limited wages allowed

5. No loans allowed

6. No contract renewals allowed

7. Sold shinnie for 30k

8. Sold multiple first team players for peanuts

9. Sold multiple youth team players for peanuts

10. Sold sell on options on youth players previously Sold for peanuts

11. Staff lost jobs

12. Coaching staff lost jobs

13. Recruitment team lost jobs

14. Regular staff lost jobs

 

This isn't a feel sorry for us, because it's our own fault. But to say we got off without punishment?

EXACTLY.

Much of the negative image we have in the football world is because the EFL and their stooge reporters have done a good PR job on us painting us as the rogues, and the EFL being knights in shining armour. What we need to do is mount a PR exercise of our own painting the real picture, showing not only the EFLs incompetence, but their corruption, and the blatant agenda which they have against Derby County, and the pig-ignorant, selfish, vindictive action by Steve Gibson who probably knew he had no case, and that it wouldn't stand up in court, but knew that the EEFL were scared of him and wouldn't stop him in his claim against our club. And he pursued that claim knowing that it would prevent us coming out of administration at Christmas, and would almost certainly see us relegated. Which it did.

So not only do we have an excellent case against the EFLuent (restriction of trade is a possibility), we might also be able to go for Steve Gibson as well because his unfounded claim, which would never have even got to  court, effectively relegated us.

I live in hope. (or dreamland!)

[Ghost of Clough]

On 17/05/2022 at 19:10, KBB said:

Do we need to have a sign in or outside the ground listing everything thst has happened since we "got off easy" off the top of my head

1. Docked 21 points

2. Relegated

3. Transfer embargo for God knows how long

4. Limited wages allowed

5. No loans allowed

6. No contract renewals allowed

7. Sold shinnie for 30k

8. Sold multiple first team players for peanuts

9. Sold multiple youth team players for peanuts

10. Sold sell on options on youth players previously Sold for peanuts

11. Staff lost jobs

12. Coaching staff lost jobs

13. Recruitment team lost jobs

14. Regular staff lost jobs

 

This isn't a feel sorry for us, because it's our own fault. But to say we got off without punishment?

You forgot a very big one - mental health. That's the fans, the staff, the players, and the academy players.

[Woodypecker]

And the two parasite clubs have failed to get promotion this season - Middlebrow choked before the play-offs yet again and Widdicombe Wanderers got put down by The Black Cats. Fantastic!

Everyone have their own little party, they had theirs when we were relegated.

I'll always despise the Holy gob-offs, Gibson & Couhig, pretending they are protectors of The Game when they are just opportunistic, selfish, destructive failures. The EFL's complicity in the whole double-debacle was unforgiveable.

I want us to destroy Widdicombe twice next season - on the pitch!

And Sunderland to get 'the double' over Middlebrow, hopefully!

 

C O Y R

[TINMANTED]

On 17/05/2022 at 19:18, Foreveram said:

Plus a £100,000 fine.

limited squad size,youth development hindered{cashin}wage limit and only allowed to sign players the efl deemed poor enough to hamper us being competitive

[MadAmster]

IMO, if we are somehow despised by opposing fans next season, it won't be down to punishment or any perceived lack of it. It will be down to those fans on various fora and general social media who are looking at us getting masses of players in and spending lots of money and walking the League and that attitude is total arrogance. That scenario won't happen. We are limited to 21 players, excluding Under 20s, in the squad. We currently have SEVEN players. There is a squad salary cap of £2.5M a year in place. To put that into perspective Lawro is currently on about £1.4M. We will be allowed to pay players an average of £119K a year. Just like every other club in L1.

We need to temper our predictions, at least until we know what the squad looks like.

[Comrade 86]

16 minutes ago, MadAmster said:

IMO, if we are somehow despised by opposing fans next season, it won't be down to punishment or any perceived lack of it. It will be down to those fans on various fora and general social media who are looking at us getting masses of players in and spending lots of money and walking the League and that attitude is total arrogance. That scenario won't happen. We are limited to 21 players, excluding Under 20s, in the squad. We currently have SEVEN players. There is a squad salary cap of £2.5M a year in place. To put that into perspective Lawro is currently on about £1.4M. We will be allowed to pay players an average of £119K a year. Just like every other club in L1.

We need to temper our predictions, at least until we know what the squad looks like.

Where are you getting this from? I've seen nothing within the regs that confirms your opinions, nor am I aware of any indication as yet as to what restrictions the EFL may, or may not impose. Do you know someone on the EFL board?

[Ghost of Clough]

1 hour ago, MadAmster said:

IMO, if we are somehow despised by opposing fans next season, it won't be down to punishment or any perceived lack of it. It will be down to those fans on various fora and general social media who are looking at us getting masses of players in and spending lots of money and walking the League and that attitude is total arrogance. That scenario won't happen. We are limited to 21 players, excluding Under 20s, in the squad. We currently have SEVEN players. There is a squad salary cap of £2.5M a year in place. To put that into perspective Lawro is currently on about £1.4M. We will be allowed to pay players an average of £119K a year. Just like every other club in L1.

We need to temper our predictions, at least until we know what the squad looks like.

You need to get your facts right

[Tamworthram]

43 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

You need to get your facts right

To be fair to @MadAmster as a new poster, he/she has probably seen that this isn’t necessarily a requirement on this forum.?