Curtains Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 For me he’s better at RB Seems to stand still too much at CB like Micheal Johnson and Viv Anderson were alluding to on Forests goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 It’s a difficult one really. On the one hand, he’s probably not good enough going forward to play at RB in our system. But equally, he’s awful In the air, which leaves us vulnerable to certain teams when he plays at CB. Figuring out what to do with Wisdom Long term is one of Cocu’s biggest personnel dilemmas at the moment imo. To be honest, I don’t think he’s looked quite himself altogether this season. Understandably, given what he’s been through. But he does look a bit sluggish and cumbersome at the moment. Personally I think we may have rushed him back a bit quick through necessity, and ideally he needs a spell out of the team to rebuild his fitness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Always thought wide centre-half in a three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 21 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: It’s a difficult one really. On the one hand, he’s probably not good enough going forward to play at RB in our system. But equally, he’s awful In the air, which leaves us vulnerable to certain teams when he plays at CB. Figuring out what to do with Wisdom Long term is one of Cocu’s biggest personnel dilemmas at the moment imo. To be honest, I don’t think he’s looked quite himself altogether this season. Understandably, given what he’s been through. But he does look a bit sluggish and cumbersome at the moment. Personally I think we may have rushed him back a bit quick through necessity, and ideally he needs a spell out of the team to rebuild his fitness. I think you are right . Will be interesting to see how it all develops. I think defensively the squad is stronger now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, cannable said: Always thought wide centre-half in a three Personally I think his best position is RB . I might be tempted to play Te Wierik on Wednesday at home and Evans has done ok for me also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I think he's more than capable to fill either role. Yes as @Millenniumramsays, he has his limitations in both roles but so do most defenders at this level. I like him and know that if I was a striker/winger that I wouldn't want to come up against him. He's not quite up to speed yet this season but he's an absolute beast when on song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 Just now, Steve How Hard? said: I think he's more than capable to fill either role. Yes as @Millenniumramsays, he has his limitations in both roles but so do most defenders at this level. I like him and know that if I was a striker/winger that I wouldn't want to come up against him. He's not quite up to speed yet this season but he's an absolute beast when on song. We don’t keep clean sheets other than the Norwich game so the coaches a manager still need to work on defensive lapses which are costing us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Right back,right side of a 3. What’s his preferred position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo jones Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 For me he’s capable back up in both positions. I’d personally like to see MTW and Bielik come into the back 3 with Clarke as the long term goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammeister Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Back of mouth, top and bottom on right and left sides. I’m a bit of a traditionalist in these matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 29 minutes ago, Curtains said: We don’t keep clean sheets other than the Norwich game so the coaches a manager still need to work on defensive lapses which are costing us. We’ve conceded 3 in 4 since cocu changed it. prior to that it was 10 in 4 he’s not going to get it, but he deserves a lot of praise for sorting it out. of the three we have conceded one was a worldy (Watford), one was two fouls and an offside (Forest). Only really the Huddersfield goal where wisdom dropped a bit of a clanger - which is quite remarkable. I still think Just an adjustment to keep the ball and increase the threat level around the opposition box. Not sure that the three central defenders are ready to listen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, RamNut said: We’ve conceded 3 in 4 since cocu changed it. prior to that it was 10 in 4 he’s not going to get it, but he deserves a lot of praise for sorting it out. of the three we have conceded one was a worldy (Watford), one was two fouls and an offside (Forest). Only really the Huddersfield goal where wisdom dropped a bit of a clanger - which is quite remarkable. I still think Just an adjustment to keep the ball and increase the threat level around the opposition box. Not sure that the three central defenders are ready to listen though. He dropped a clanger on the Forest goal mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 18 minutes ago, Curtains said: He dropped a clanger on the Forest goal mate. Maybe. But there was a foul on Clarke which barely gets a mention, and he was primed to head it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, RamNut said: Maybe. But there was a foul on Clarke which barely gets a mention, and he was primed to head it away. As well as Davies ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Right back then right side of a back three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 For me he's always looked like a centre back playing at right back. You'll get the best out of him on the right side of a 3. So far this season he hasn't been at his best which is understandable given what happened but last season he was brilliant with Clarke in a back 4 from January onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longeatonram2020 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I think he’s best as a defensive full back. Still loses his man too much for me to play centre back. If we do go to a back 4 him and Byrne could well rotate depending on opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Static again for Cardiff goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Doesn't have the concentration to play CB. Gets caught out ball watching. I prefer him at RB where mistakes go less punished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Curtains said: Static again for Cardiff goal. I think the problem was more that the midfield was out of position. In hindsight he should push out to the ball as the free man but we pretty much got punished for the only time Knight and Shinnie were out of shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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