Day Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: As impressive as Bielsa is, I can't help but feel that the primary objective of this press conference is just to spectacularly divert attention from the spying. Showing everybody that you don't need to cheat isn't actually that effective a way of explaining why you DID cheat. It’s exactly that, we have a “War Room” at Moor Farm that collects data and all kinds of stats, screens and computers everywhere,all this more information than Frank himself is rubbish. None of this is impressive in the slightest, just a diversion tactic to show why he doesn’t need it, yet admitted right at the start they do it to verify the information they have and starting line ups a day early. It’s amusing watching the Leeds fans in the early tweets begging him to stop, then switch to the mans a genius because he’s showing a few stats on Harry Wilson. Can only assume this is breaking news to them and never seen anything like it, a prisoner for 20 years being released and handed an iPhone for the first time. He’s a mad man and just made this a much bigger problem for the club, I can’t see the likes of Boro, Villa owners laughing this off. I had no idea what punishment the EFL would hand out, thought it would be a fine maybe and a reminder of integrity, now I think they really could be looking at a points deduction. Stunned he’s been allowed to do this tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Is he going to hand out dossiers on how to beat us?! What a petty man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, AdamRam said: Leeds have probably had a tip off that another club has also reported the spying, therefore just come out and say it’s the norm and hope that any sanctions are placed just on him. His hypocrisy is my biggest gripe, if he really believes it doesn’t provide an advantage, why do it in the first place ? Perhaps he’s trying to minimise it to just knowing Wilson wasn’t fit enough to play, and that he already knew about it anyway ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, David said: I had no idea what punishment the EFL would hand out, thought it would be a fine maybe and a reminder of integrity, now I think they really could be looking at a points deduction. Stunned he’s been allowed to do this tonight. Spying on one team, once, or even twice, is one thing. Spying on every single team in the league? Not on. How can anyone justify this? How can anyone suggest that this doesn't give Leeds an unfair advantage? With just Mel Morris barking at the league, I thought Bielsa would just get away with a fine. But, like you say, with all the other league chairmen behind him, I think Leeds are going to find themselves in hot water very, very soon. They can laugh and post gifs of mic-drops for now. Let's see how it all plays out for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorsforthRam Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Even Lineker is tweeting he “sort of loves” him. Seems to me that Bielsa has won the battle on social media at least and Derby and FL are a bit of a laughing stock... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDerbySuperRams Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, David said: It’s exactly that, we have a “War Room” at Moor Farm that collects data and all kinds of stats, screens and computers everywhere,all this more information than Frank himself is rubbish. None of this is impressive in the slightest, just a diversion tactic to show why he doesn’t need it, yet admitted right at the start they do it to verify the information they have and starting line ups a day early. It’s amusing watching the Leeds fans in the early tweets begging him to stop, then switch to the mans a genius because he’s showing a few stats on Harry Wilson. Can only assume this is breaking news to them and never seen anything like it, a prisoner for 20 years being released and handed an iPhone for the first time. He’s a mad man and just made this a much bigger problem for the club, I can’t see the likes of Boro, Villa owners laughing this off. I had no idea what punishment the EFL would hand out, thought it would be a fine maybe and a reminder of integrity, now I think they really could be looking at a points deduction. Stunned he’s been allowed to do this tonight. Exactly this. I’m seeing Leeds fans saying that we’ve been exposed to the league. How exactly? He’s shown some interesting statistics but it’s nothing ground breaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, HorsforthRam said: Derby and FL are a bit of a laughing stock... Yeah, we're the laughing stock, our manager is so embarrassing for not being happy about Leeds cheating for an advantage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I’m sick and tired of the likes of Adrian Durham of Talk-sport making light of this! They are ducking cheating b-stards, end of! Throw the ducking book at the cheating b-stards. Durham needs to be took to task, annoying tw@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDerbySuperRams Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Seeing journalists lap this rubbish up is embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, cosmic said: I get it - he’s trying to undermine the advantage he gets from spying. The point is every team can analyse the opponent (even to the extent he does) but it doesn’t negate what spying achieves: He can overload us with all the information he wants, but the statement above is enough for me to say he’s still in the wrong. Don’t get distracted, people. I won’t its what I put on this thread before the press conference that is the crux of it, up to date information so that he can pick his team accordingly- in my book it is a form of cheating the football league should receive complaints from every league club in the championship here is a solution award them one point instead of the three they gained and award every other team one point if they got beat or will we have another situation of cheating being successful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketteringram Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 When is the EFL punishment, if anything, likely to be announced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, SuperDerbySuperRams said: Seeing journalists lap this rubbish up is embarrassing. Especially when your average joe only has to follow this link... https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/20/Show/England-Derby ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobyWanKenobi Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 This man called a press conference to brag about his scouting techniques and dissect DCFC weaknesses in front of the world. This bloke is a next level troll and he's got massive balls and I like him. At this point Lamps should be looking at paying Leeds a consultation fee for telling him the sides weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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May Contain Nuts Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, SuperDerbySuperRams said: Exactly this. I’m seeing Leeds fans saying that we’ve been exposed to the league. How exactly? He’s shown some interesting statistics but it’s nothing ground breaking. Whether in reality it's useful to anyone or not isn't really the point, and it only brings the game into disrepute even more than he already has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Nobody impressed by his dedication? He's a sly dog but he's thorough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJFern94 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just a question, but doesn't this whole using Derby as an example, break the EFL rule about treating each team fairly?... Again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Alpha said: Nobody impressed by his dedication? He's a sly dog but he's thorough A bit like being impressed by a bank robber who did Mission Impossible-style analysis of the bank! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Simple solution. Take Leeds TV and League money for the season, divide it by 46, then pay that amount out to every team for each game they've played against Leeds. The leftover amount would be a suspended fine until the end of the season, to stop them doing it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJFern94 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Also, I am a teacher, and I see this type of reaction almost every single day. Me: Johnny, stop trying to look at Jimmy's work. Johnny: But I have done my work, I want to check it is right. Me: Johnny, it is an exam, you cannot do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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