jono Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Great scout and recogniser of bargain talent. Top level manager .. not for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Nuwtfly said: Been thinking about this one a lot recently. Would you ever, under any circumstances, take Nigel Clough back as manager? I’d rather gamble again and see the reaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 That was the thing. He just goes to safety first mode all too easily. He always says "If you can't win then you don't lose". But you can win. Every game. Some games you may spend a lot of time defending but you can always win. Even tonight they will have to defend for long periods and graft without the ball but they should also have a plan of what they need to do with their possession. "If you can't win then don't lose" to me seems like the mentality that if the game isn't going well then you just dig in and clear your lines. And that's how we played sometimes. Especially away and also going into the last 10 minutes of games. Yeah, take less risk etc. But don't just try to survive! Have a plan to score! Kicking to corner flags is a bit negative unless you've somehow played your way into being battered. But then that probably started with pooping your pants anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, JoeDerby said: Ben Pringle Lee Croft Paul Dickov Lee Hendrie Luke Varney Chris Porter Cywka Ben Davies Conor Doyle Craig Bryson Will Hughes Chris Martin Jeff Hendrick Shaun Barker Richard Keogh Craig Forsyth Jake Buxton Johnny Russell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, JoeDerby said: It was pretty painful at times. Often pinned in our own half at home with no ambition to get a second call, not even trying to counter attack, it was more hit it in to the corners and wait for their next attack. He knew how to pick a player.. Ben Pringle Lee Croft Paul Dickov Lee Hendrie Luke Varney Chris Porter Cywka Ben Davies Conor Doyle I know he was on a tight budget but there's some shockers there. Pringle wasn't a bad player you know? Just not a luxury we could let grow. We needed a more immediate solution Croft career nose dived with us. He was doing ok before. He just flopped Dickov was ok Hendrie was bad Varney was Jewell? Porter was always injured. I liked Cywka. Again he was a luxury that we couldn't afford. But he was a flair player that I liked. And his naive play at Portsmouth was daft, the reaction was OTT but what Nigel had to say about it shows to me that he just isn't positive enough with his tactics. Cywka made a mistake but trying to beat players and score goals after the 80th minute should be encouraged. He basically did what Wilson did twice vs Norwich. Right attitude but wrong decision. Didn't rate Davies or Doyle. He seemed to struggle to spot a good striker. Theo, Sammon, Priskin, Davies, Porter, Moore... probably more that for one reason or another didn't work. Quicker to name the ones that did work out. Hulse (Jewell) Kuqi and Martin (who worked better for Mac1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Nuwtfly said: Rough year! Only 356 days to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Yep in a heartbeat.... but under any circumstances would Nigel come back here. Not in a million years unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 He fielded this team in a 4-1 win over Watford. Fielding, Brayford, Barker, Leacock, Moxey, Bailey, Savage, Cywka, Green, Commons, Bueno. (Kuqi came off the bench and the team played off him like Martin in 13/14 & 14/15) Good team really. A passing team. An attacking team. Probably a bit weak defensively but it's a nice base. A few months later after an obsession with Luke Moore and a blip this is the team vs Boro. Fielding, Brayford, Barker, Ayala, Roberts, Addison, Pearson, Doyle, Green, Ward, Robinson. Ben Davies now involved too. It's a team of grafters. It's pretty crap. And that was Clough by match and by season. Start off with the positivity and end up hanging on. Lost faith. But he went down the right path a couple of times. Including before Mac came in. We'd scored that great goal in the Yeovil game and it looked like he was focusing on a footballing side again. But he would never have gone as daring as Mac did imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeTownRam Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Nuwtfly said: Rough year! It's only the 9th of Jan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshaw_Ram Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 A great man, underappreciated by too many people who can go back to Wigan or wherever they came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 32 minutes ago, Alpha said: He fielded this team in a 4-1 win over Watford. Fielding, Brayford, Barker, Leacock, Moxey, Bailey, Savage, Cywka, Green, Commons, Bueno. (Kuqi came off the bench and the team played off him like Martin in 13/14 & 14/15) Good team really. A passing team. An attacking team. Probably a bit weak defensively but it's a nice base. A few months later after an obsession with Luke Moore and a blip this is the team vs Boro. Fielding, Brayford, Barker, Ayala, Roberts, Addison, Pearson, Doyle, Green, Ward, Robinson. Ben Davies now involved too. It's a team of grafters. It's pretty crap. And that was Clough by match and by season. Start off with the positivity and end up hanging on. Lost faith. But he went down the right path a couple of times. Including before Mac came in. We'd scored that great goal in the Yeovil game and it looked like he was focusing on a footballing side again. But he would never have gone as daring as Mac did imo. And drubbed milwall 5-1 at theirs to really lay the crap away performances to rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, HantsRam said: And drubbed milwall 5-1 at theirs to really lay the crap away performances to rest. Yeah, it was at home we'd been caught out wasn't it? Once by Burnley, as usual, and was it Reading that scored with like 3 of their first 3 attacks or something like that? I hate playing Burnley. Do you remember Chris Eagles ripping into us? Ward getting sent off? Eddie Howe's disgusting time wasting? Shackell's poo show? Martin's "dive"? Bueno got injured there maybe? Eurgh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 26 minutes ago, HantsRam said: And drubbed milwall 5-1 at theirs to really lay the crap away performances to rest. Nah, not having it. He won 12 in 108 away games wasn't it at one time? Couldn't care about the win at Millwall. 2009/10 seasom we had to wait until the middle of December for an away win. The away performances were turgid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I was listening to Ben Robinson song his praises today on TS. How when he first went to Burton he even gave up driving his big Merc so he’d be more accepted at a non league club. What a guy,you don’t see Frank giving up his Audi do you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, coneheadjohn said: I was listening to Ben Robinson song his praises today on TS. How when he first went to Burton he even gave up driving his big Merc so he’d be more accepted at a non league club. What a guy,you don’t see Frank giving up his Audi do you. I don't see Frank driving anything. His spot was empty at Saturday's game - I did wonder if he was there until I saw him on the edge of the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, MuespachRam said: Yep in a heartbeat.... but under any circumstances would Nigel come back here. Not in a million years unfortunately How about Clough with Rowett as gead coach? Bet that gets you excited! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 With a different coaching staff, yes. When it appeared we were cost cutting in the summer I’d have had him back then - because it looked like the 2009-2014 days of austerity were coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, angieram said: I don't see Frank driving anything. His spot was empty at Saturday's game - I did wonder if he was there until I saw him on the edge of the pitch. Not had a car there all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, cannable said: Not had a car there all season I don't usually walk past West Stand as I am a North Stander but they shut my stand on Saturday so I had to go elsewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 42 minutes ago, Norman said: Nah, not having it. He won 12 in 108 away games wasn't it at one time? Couldn't care about the win at Millwall. 2009/10 seasom we had to wait until the middle of December for an away win. The away performances were turgid. So he joined at beginning of 2009 and left in September 2013. A look at the league stats shows..... 2008-2009 W 3 plus 1 in the cup 2009-2010 W 3 2010-2011 W 5 2011-2012 W 7 2012-2013 W 4 2013-2014 W 3 plus 1 in the cup So not great, but not quite as dire as portrayed. I do love a good stat.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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