Rambalin Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Coventry fans very impressed with his appearance from the bench today. A few quotes...... Thought he looked a class act today when he came on. Looks a talent and we will be lucky to have him. Direct with quick feet. Very impressed with this young lad today, looks like a proper player ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 ? I wanted him here and involved. He's not as good at dribbling as Lawrence but he actually plays with his eyes open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, Alpha said: ? I wanted him here and involved. He's not as good at dribbling as Lawrence but he actually plays with his eyes open. He'll come back much more able to compete - he needs to be playing games. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 23 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: He'll come back much more able to compete - he needs to be playing games. ? Yep, Coventry a good place for Thomas to get some game experience. They have a decent manager in Mark Robins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Gnarly Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I'm glad he has gone to Coventry on loan, decent enough level of football and a young squad also. Needs games to get experience. Clearly the lad has talent, it's a great deal for both clubs and the player. Looking forward to see how this lad progresses. Hopefully becomes a player from our U23's that is able to make the step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I still think loans are a waste of time. They tell you the player can handle X role in X system at X level. In terms of player development he gets used to playing against full-backs that aren’t as good as what he will be playing against. If you’re good enough you’re old enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, cannable said: I still think loans are a waste of time. They tell you the player can handle X role in X system at X level. In terms of player development he gets used to playing against full-backs that aren’t as good as what he will be playing against. If you’re good enough you’re old enough Being good enough to play for Derby doesn't make him a better option than the other players in his position though. And if its a question of playing on loan at a lower level for half a season v sitting on the bench/at home hoping that a "better" (in the eyes of the staff) gets injured or has a bad run of form, most players would choose the loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 22 minutes ago, cannable said: I still think loans are a waste of time. They tell you the player can handle X role in X system at X level. In terms of player development he gets used to playing against full-backs that aren’t as good as what he will be playing against. If you’re good enough you’re old enough Yeah cos the CEO of Apple went straight from school into his role didn't he. Doesn't matter what profession you're in, you still have to learn and a lot of the time, those who learn from the bottom to the top are the best ones. Your statement is just silly and very narrow minded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuket Ram Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 On 18/08/2018 at 19:50, Alpha said: ? I wanted him here and involved. He's not as good at dribbling as Lawrence but he actually plays with his eyes open. Not as good at dribbling as Lawrence? Are we talking about the same Lawrence...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, CHCDerby said: Yeah cos the CEO of Apple went straight from school into his role didn't he. Doesn't matter what profession you're in, you still have to learn and a lot of the time, those who learn from the bottom to the top are the best ones. Your statement is just silly and very narrow minded. Yeah and Pele should have waited until he was older before playing. And the fella that runs Facebook should have gone to Costa to cut his teeth. Thomas has probably been through years of academy learning his role. I make @cannable correct, if you are good enough, you are old enough. Also agree with @Alpha I would have liked him around.. As Rowett would have said 'in the building'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Angry Ram said: Yeah and Pele should have waited until he was older before playing. And the fella that runs Facebook should have gone to Costa to cut his teeth. Thomas has probably been through years of academy learning his role. I make @cannable correct, if you are good enough, you are old enough. Also agree with @Alpha I would have liked him around.. As Rowett would have said 'in the building'. Every player is different - you know nothing about Luke Thomas and what might and might not be suitable for him. I would have liked him to stay, but that's not what the club have decided. The loan is until January when possibly, he can come back into the club a more mature player and offer more than what he currently can. Would you rather him play 20 games between now and January or just a handful of substitute appearances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Because he was in the 23 but not the 18 he was never getting any game time. Good to go out and play some football then come back in Jan to assess where he is and whether he can make our first 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 31 minutes ago, CHCDerby said: Yeah cos the CEO of Apple went straight from school into his role didn't he. Doesn't matter what profession you're in, you still have to learn and a lot of the time, those who learn from the bottom to the top are the best ones. Your statement is just silly and very narrow minded. He’s 19, he’s as good technically as he ever will be and as quick as he ever will be. Now it’s about find a role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 25 minutes ago, CHCDerby said: Every player is different - you know nothing about Luke Thomas and what might and might not be suitable for him. I would have liked him to stay, but that's not what the club have decided. The loan is until January when possibly, he can come back into the club a more mature player and offer more than what he currently can. Would you rather him play 20 games between now and January or just a handful of substitute appearances? Exactly.. So why did you decide to generalise? I might know Luke, you don't know that I don't. I did not sya the club was wrong, You made the big statement.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Its more about "seasoning" or "work hardening" than anything. Playing competitive games regularly just for learning what that is like is part of development. Some players need more, some.need very little. There was the west ham rumour in tge summer, hes got ability, needs to.make the jump to being "a proper footballer" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: Exactly.. So why did you decide to generalise? I might know Luke, you don't know that I don't. I did not sya the club was wrong, You made the big statement.. No, I commented on 'If you're good enough, you're old enough'. Not every player is the same. Pele (as you mentioned) was obviously one of those players that developed early and probably needed very little coaching. Along with the likes of Ronaldo, Messi etc. Look at Harry Kane - would you say the loan did him good or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 hours ago, CHCDerby said: Yeah cos the CEO of Apple went straight from school into his role didn't he. Doesn't matter what profession you're in, you still have to learn and a lot of the time, those who learn from the bottom to the top are the best ones. Your statement is just silly and very narrow minded. When you start and end your points like this... Meh.. You could have made your point completly differently and made your comments constructive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontTrustTheDevilInside Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Have to suspect lampard is the first manager thinking with player development longer than the life expectancy of a derby manager. Only Mel will decide if that’s a good or bad thing. Picked pieces of failed plans has been the downfall of our squad for a while but if it all follows through could be impressive. You suspect the Thomas loan is directly aligned to the Wilson one. If Wilson/Liverpool do an Ibe then he could come back to be a big player for the 2nd half of the season. If Wilson is staying the same for Thomas and Coventry. Not sure on the player for tomori as we really don’t have a permanent backing him up. Unless there is a feasible option for him permanent with aina, kalas etc all being let go of. Be interested to see keoghs future. Is tomori edging him out the door and the incoming fee/budget then used for a younger option? Mount could be one of many? Elsnik, Sibley, Guy, bird or as a slightly different option Holmes being converted from a wide man to a playmaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivo_knoflicek Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Popped into the club shop today, excited after seeing this thread title. What a disappointment. Still no Luke Thomas watch in stock. No Max Bird alarm clock either. Tempted by the Tom Huddlestone sundial though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, ivo_knoflicek said: Popped into the club shop today, excited after seeing this thread title. What a disappointment. Still no Luke Thomas watch in stock. No Max Bird alarm clock either. Tempted by the Tom Huddlestone sundial though.... To be fair, Huddlestone could be a sundial he moves so slow ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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