Sexydadbod Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Yeah why wasn’t that a straight red card? He was in one on one and would have scored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 What do you have to do in this World Cup to get a red card!? That was about as ‘last man’ as you’re ever gonna get. Very strange one that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, McLovin said: Yeah why wasn’t that a straight red card? He was in one on one and would have scored Referee considered it a genuine attempt to play the ball. Double jeopardy rule yo. It's been around for years. Considered to overly punish teams to go a goal down following the penalty and having a player sent off. It unnecessarily punishes the victim team if the penalty is missed of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Paul71 said: How was that not red? Reds are not given for that these days. Double jeopardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewsFromTheMiddle Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Shove ya double jeopardy, denied a certain goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 minute ago, SaintRam said: Referee considered it a genuine attempt to play the ball. Double jeopardy rule yo. Thank God someone else knows the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Is Modric going to join in the shootout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, AndyinLiverpool said: Reds are not given for that these days. Double jeopardy Well that’s a silly rule change. So if a player genuinely cheats like suarez did against Ghana in 2010, he wouldn’t be sent off then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 It's not a straight red if you're going for the ball anymore, regardless of if it's the last man, or 6 yards out in an open goal. The defender clearly made a desperate attempt for the ball, he got pretty close to it. In my eyes, it should be a red because of the 99.9999999% certainty that they'd have scored and gone through, and the foul has ultimately put a stop to that, temporarily or permanently. But double jeopardy and that you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, McLovin said: Well that’s a silly rule change. So if a player genuinely cheats like suarez did against Ghana in 2010, he wouldn’t be sent off then? He would. If the ref considers it a genuine attempt to play the ball, it's a yellow. This is not new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 minute ago, McLovin said: Well that’s a silly rule change. So if a player genuinely cheats like suarez did against Ghana in 2010, he wouldn’t be sent off then? That's a different story. Purposely stopping the ball going in the goal or full on cleaning a player out would still be a red. Sanchez for Colombia was sent off for handball and stopping it going in vs Japan. The Danish defender did make an attempt for the ball, hence no red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, McLovin said: Well that’s a silly rule change. So if a player genuinely cheats like suarez did against Ghana in 2010, he wouldn’t be sent off then? Nah I think the ref decides on the foul whether it looked like a tackle or a cynical swipe. Kind of like excessive force it's up to the ref what he is happy with. It did look like an attempt to play the ball tbf. A desperate one but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, SaintRam said: Referee considered it a genuine attempt to play the ball. Double jeopardy rule yo. It's been around for years. Considered to overly punish teams to go a goal down following the penalty and having a player sent off. It unnecessarily punishes the victim team if the penalty is missed of course. So if a player cheats like suarez did against Ghana in 2010, he wouldn’t be sent off? Or is it only if the referee thinks that the player is genuinely going for the ball because it didn’t look to me that he was going for the ball. The player who made the challenge didn’t complain, he knew what he was doing edit: got my answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, McLovin said: Well that’s a silly rule change. So if a player genuinely cheats like suarez did against Ghana in 2010, he wouldn’t be sent off then? No, he would be sent off. That's deliberate handball. Bizarre example. If a player makes a genuine attempt to play the ball with a tackle, but fouls the player as the last man - it is a penalty and a yellow card (inside the area) or a freekick and a red card (outside of the area). It's been around for a good 2-3 years. The vast majority of "last man" red cards were given to GKs and the rule change was put in place cos that usually destroyed a teams chances. It's a little unfit for purpose if the penalty is missed, but its improved things immeasurably when the penalty gets scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Next year someone will announce another stupid rule change announcing the ball has to be at least a meter over the line to be a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 And let's be honest he misses the next game anyway through cumulative bookings and it made no difference he was on the pitch the last two minutes. Same net result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Paul71 said: Next year someone will announce another stupid rule change announcing the ball has to be at least a meter over the line to be a goal. Bonkers ain’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Just now, JoetheRam said: And let's be honest he misses the next game anyway through cumulative bookings and it made no difference he was on the pitch the last two minutes. Same net result. You know he'll score the winning penalty and then suddenly it's all about the ref. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 It astounds me that so many of you were unaware of that change tbh - we've seen lots of last man fouls not result in red cards over the past two seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Made a genuine attempt for the ball, unlike Gary O’Neil in the playoff final. Good decision, yellow only. Poor penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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