rammieib Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, needles said: Which time? Just the once ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, rammieib said: Just the once ? What about Lawrence I think he will be very good for Frank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 hours ago, curtains said: He may have been wrong then but to sell Vydra would be folly Maybe, maybe not. If Lampard decides to play 4-3-3 where does Vydra fit in? If by selling Vydra it could fund 2 or 3 players that would strengthen us as a team, it would be folly not to. Either way, there was a Derby County before Matej Vydra, there will be a Derby County after Matej Vydra. Let's see what pre season brings, might shed a light on a few questions as right now none of us have any idea of how Lampard will try and shape us or if Vydra is part of that, so far it's just rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edtheram Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 when are they back for Pre Season today or tomorrow?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Edtheram said: when are they back for Pre Season today or tomorrow?..... Whatever day they're back, by this time, there would be a thread full of little vids of them all arriving. Someone said the 29th though in another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, SaintRam said: Whatever day they're back, by this time, there would be a thread full of little vids of them all arriving. Someone said the 29th though in another thread. Likely to be Thursday or Friday - pretty sure it normally is a day or 2 of testing/light fitness, then a weekend off, then "proper" training commences on the Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 4th of July I thought was the first day back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, curtains said: What about Lawrence I think he will be very good for Frank. I rate the guy but I don't think he is in the class of Ince. You could say imagine how much more Ince would flourish under Lampard as we all think that Frank will be bringing a more attacking element to the team. I just worry selling your leading scorer in the league to a rival in the league will make them stronger. I don't buy into the concept of selling to raise money when you are selling a player who needs replacing in the first instance. I know there isn't likely to be takers but selling Johnson, Butterfield, Nugent, Jerome, Blackman, Hanson, Forsyth, Anya, Ledley, Thorne (maybe), Pearce, Bennett and Olsson are all sales which could raise money/free up wages and wouldn't weaken us IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Personally I’m a big fan of Vydra, I’d like to think we’d keep him unless he expressed an interest to leave - and we get a good price. At that point I’d be happy with us spending a large amount to get someone near his quality in our squad, I.e Bobby Ried. I don’t buy into people saying we have to sell Vydra to balance the books. We’ll only be selling him if we can get a good replacement. If we keep him great if not we have to spend and bring a marquee type player in to make the difference for us in tight games. The thing with Vydra is when you’re struggling in a game he only needs one or two chances and he can win the game for you in the championship. He was our player of the season for a reason last year so focus should be on keeping him or letting him go on our terms with a replacement lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, DcfcJB said: Personally I’m a big fan of Vydra, I’d like to think we’d keep him unless he expressed an interest to leave - and we get a good price. At that point I’d be happy with us spending a large amount to get someone near his quality in our squad, I.e Bobby Ried. I don’t buy into people saying we have to sell Vydra to balance the books. We’ll only be selling him if we can get a good replacement. If we keep him great if not we have to spend and bring a marquee type player in to make the difference for us in tight games. The thing with Vydra is when you’re struggling in a game he only needs one or two chances and he can win the game for you in the championship. He was our player of the season for a reason last year so focus should be on keeping him or letting him go on our terms with a replacement lined up. We should keep him and use him if no one matches our valuation, just to give an opinion but I don’t consider bobby Reid to be anywhere near Vydra’s ability despite having one good season, we don’t need one marquee signing we need three very good ones but we will see what our new manager can produce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sparkle said: We should keep him and use him if no one matches our valuation, just to give an opinion but I don’t consider bobby Reid to be anywhere near Vydra’s ability despite having one good season, we don’t need one marquee signing we need three very good ones but we will see what our new manager can produce I’d tend to both agree and disagree, keep him if we can but if we can’t we need one marquee player that can be the difference in a season but supplement that with a couple of very good loan players. You see in the championship we can spend 3 lots of 4 million on average players. We have enough in our squad to mount a playoff charge easily- we need to keep Vydra or replace with someone of round about his ability. Then add a few exciting youth players that bring the standards up a bit. I do agree Ried only has 1 good season under his belt, however after watching him against derby and against Man Utd and city last year I thought he was a quality player. Would prefer vydra and I’m sure there are others but we could do a whole lot worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Leeds apparently very close to completing the signing of Abel Hernandez. Not sure where this would leave their interest in Vydra... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney1991 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Have heard tonight which is probably bs but the person who told my dad told us grosicki in January before it went out that Brighton are coming in for vydra for in the region of 12 to 14 million. Just thought I would share but please don't take my word for it just thought was worth the share as he has got few things correct before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 23 minutes ago, Barney1991 said: Have heard tonight which is probably bs but the person who told my dad told us grosicki in January before it went out that Brighton are coming in for vydra for in the region of 12 to 14 million. Just thought I would share but please don't take my word for it just thought was worth the share as he has got few things correct before If true, would make sense to sell to a prem club rather than a rival. If we could squeeze £15 million then I’d take it. Will be gutted to see him go but I’d rather him go to another league rather than a direct rival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckoBeast Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 25 minutes ago, Barney1991 said: Have heard tonight which is probably bs but the person who told my dad told us grosicki in January before it went out that Brighton are coming in for vydra for in the region of 12 to 14 million. Just thought I would share but please don't take my word for it just thought was worth the share as he has got few things correct before Hope so ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Looks like a two horse race between WBA and Leeds. FFP situation means clubs will offer below par knowing we need the cash. Bummer. Vydra is 15 million pound player based on his season, the market and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Derby fans not happy about Leeds https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/tell-them-to-jog-on-plenty-of-derby-supporters-arent-pleased-with-leeds-united/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 14 hours ago, DcfcJB said: If true, would make sense to sell to a prem club rather than a rival. If we could squeeze £15 million then I’d take it. Will be gutted to see him go but I’d rather him go to another league rather than a direct rival. If he goes to the Prem then it's win-win, because we don't have to watch him light up the Championship again, and that's one less rival for us. Selling him to another Championship team has to be a last resort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Wonder if there is mileage in part exchange to get a decent deal - Baldock, Hemed and Ulloa all expendable at B&HA, under new management most of WBA's squad must be up for grabs, and Pearce has already been linked from Leeds who have bought in another left back from Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Rample said: Wonder if there is mileage in part exchange to get a decent deal - Baldock, Hemed and Ulloa all expendable at B&HA, under new management most of WBA's squad must be up for grabs, and Pearce has already been linked from Leeds who have bought in another left back from Fulham. Hope not!! Baldock is 30 and Hemed and Ulloa are both 31. No more strikers over the age of 30 please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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