RoyMac5 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, archied said: But you are pro Mac , you are pro Martin and you are anti rowett ,, you have made that very clear. Yes. So what, neither Martin nor Mac are here. Rowett is. He is in charge (nominally) of Derby County, the football club I support. I don't rate him. I believe Mac would have taken us up if Mel hadn't have sacked him. Back to Rowett - his yardstick is promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 16 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Yes. So what, neither Martin nor Mac are here. Rowett is. He is in charge (nominally) of Derby County, the football club I support. I don't rate him. I believe Mac would have taken us up if Mel hadn't have sacked him. Back to Rowett - his yardstick is promotion. What has Rowett done so wrong in your eyes that you dont rate him , he had an unfashionable team like Birmingham fighting for the play offs when he got sacked , and now hes got us fighting for the top two , that sounds like a manager that knows what hes doing at this level at least , please just give us an insight into why you dont rate him so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, Premier ram said: What has Rowett done so wrong in your eyes that you dont rate him , he had an unfashionable team like Birmingham fighting for the play offs when he got sacked , and now hes got us fighting for the top two , that sounds like a manager that knows what hes doing at this level at least , please just give us an insight into why you dont rate him so much So you can pull my opinions to pieces because I think differently to you. No thanks. You'll be able to say I told you so when GR takes us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Just now, RoyMac5 said: So you can pull my opinions to pieces because I think differently to you. No thanks. You'll be able to say I told you so when GR takes us up. No not at all , im genuinely interested , im seeing a young manager who has guided two teams to the top end of one of the hardest leagues to get out of , he will make mistakes as most managers do at this level , i would like to hear your thoughts on GR and where you think we will end up this season and why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 29 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Yes. So what, neither Martin nor Mac are here. Rowett is. He is in charge (nominally) of Derby County, the football club I support. I don't rate him. I believe Mac would have taken us up if Mel hadn't have sacked him. Back to Rowett - his yardstick is promotion. Yes but they were here and using the same yardstick did mac1 one and his team not lack the drive and ambition by failing to go up when in position to do so the same as rowett s has failed to stay in second spot? Difference with yours and mine opinions is that I give both Mac and rowett a fair shake and I’m willing and able to explain my opinions ,listen to others opinions and open to change mine when I see the sense in one that makes me question mine , it’s not a weakness to be able to admit when I get it wrong ,, and don’t give me that old guff about Derbyshire folk it’s an easy cop out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 28 minutes ago, Premier ram said: No not at all , im genuinely interested , im seeing a young manager who has guided two teams to the top end of one of the hardest leagues to get out of , he will make mistakes as most managers do at this level , i would like to hear your thoughts on GR and where you think we will end up this season and why I think we'll end up 4th as there are enough average teams in competition for top 6 for us to beat enough of them. I think that GR talks a good talk on the whole, as to whether he can carry out his fine speeches, well we'll see won't we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doodle Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 46 minutes ago, Premier ram said: What has Rowett done so wrong in your eyes that you dont rate him , he had an unfashionable team like Birmingham fighting for the play offs when he got sacked , and now hes got us fighting for the top two , that sounds like a manager that knows what hes doing at this level at least , please just give us an insight into why you dont rate him so much He has plenty of plus points and just a couple of negative ones. The first negative is an unwillingness to make early use of substitutions when things are going awry. The 2 nd, which concerns me a little more is, his reasoning as to why things go awry. On Saturday he thought the players looked leggy thus our inability to hold out for the win. I thought getting overrun in midfield and not making subs and altering the system was the reason. Yesterday he thought clinical finishing was the cause, myself his 6 changes and inability to change things again were responsible. He’s young, talented and ambitious and we are lucky to have him. But he can only really learn if like the Bristol manager on Saturday. He can accept the true reason for failure may on occasion, be himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 17 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: I think we'll end up 4th as there are enough average teams in competition for top 6 for us to beat enough of them. I think that GR talks a good talk on the whole, as to whether he can carry out his fine speeches, well we'll see won't we. yes we will , do you think we can win the play- offs RoyMac ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Pretty much my sentiments from the Sheffield v Derby thread. See below Posted yesterday at 07:41 Maybe, just maybe this is a good thing. We have been riding a high on the back of a long run with out loss. Then along come a few draws which will obviously play on the minds of the players. They will not want to lose and this can have a negative effect. Pressure will build and and performance will become edgy. That came to a head last night and now the pressure of not wanting to lose has now gone away. It is how they respond to that loss now and hopefully they will now come out fighting. This loss will have hurt them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OohMartWright Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 It has been said earlier in this thread that Rowett's yardstick is promotion. I don't believe that was the case at the start of the season when most of us would have viewed a top six finish as success as Rowett continued to build his team. That we are in the mix for top two is great, but it should not be used as a stick to beat him with if we only end up 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Premier ram said: yes we will , do you think we can win the play- offs RoyMac ? I'd say yes because I'd want us to. But I think it would depend on the whether opposition were playing 3 at the back/5 in midfield! Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB BIGGS Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 36 minutes ago, OohMartWright said: It has been said earlier in this thread that Rowett's yardstick is promotion. I don't believe that was the case at the start of the season when most of us would have viewed a top six finish as success as Rowett continued to build his team. That we are in the mix for top two is great, but it should not be used as a stick to beat him with if we only end up 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th. I expected nothing higher than half way so I am very pleasantly surprised at our current position. I have a fair way to travel so have only seen the Rams at home on 4 occasions this season - Birmingham, Sheffield Wednesday, Reading and Norwich. I think it's fair to say that I haven't seen them at their best, at least I hope not. I think GR has done an excellent job under difficult circumstances. I hope he stays for a few years and continues to improve along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doodle Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 You poor sod. The brum game was terrible as was reading. Norwich not much better. Can you let me know when you’re back up, I’m in need of a holiday and that may be the best week to pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 8 hours ago, OohMartWright said: It has been said earlier in this thread that Rowett's yardstick is promotion. I don't believe that was the case at the start of the season when most of us would have viewed a top six finish as success as Rowett continued to build his team. That we are in the mix for top two is great, but it should not be used as a stick to beat him with if we only end up 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th. Fair comment. I've looked at the fixtures and based on the way things are with the form of the current crop of teams, we could finish fourth or fifth. In my view that is still OK and an decent achievement by Rowett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 21 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: I'd say yes because I'd want us to. But I think it would depend on the whether opposition were playing 3 at the back/5 in midfield! Lol. yes the 5 in midfield is a real problem for us , all our central midfielders are very similar , mobility wise , to play with an extra midfielder thats a bit different to what weve got we would need Craig Bryson or somebody similar to slot in next to Huddlestone and /or Ledley and Thorne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Like i said in another thread , looking forward to seeing Elsnik in and around the first team next season , a strong all round midfielder , doing well with Swindon , think this boys got a big future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB BIGGS Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 On 15/02/2018 at 15:01, Doodle said: You poor sod. The brum game was terrible as was reading. Norwich not much better. Can you let me know when you’re back up, I’m in need of a holiday and that may be the best week to pick No problem. 4 games is 1500 miles so you're safe for a while? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 22:44, steve brummie said: 46 competitive games beats 38 survival games IMHO! (The cash comes in useful though) One thing for certain , a negative poster will win mo55y's Prediction League if we do go up , that's for sure .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyD Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Nothing wrong with losing, its the way you lose. Drawing to Norwich was like a loss - the body language of the team and the inherent negativity of all concerned was very disturbing Johnny and Sammy were key members of our successful team. They have not been replaced. And for the first time in memory Gary started making very strange decisions I will always support the rams but I have to say, even I am tiring of the annual self-inflicted implosion at this time of year Still, the days are getting lighter, the cricket season gets closer, the bulbs are coming out and frankly , the championship is really not that bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 22 hours ago, BobbyD said: Nothing wrong with losing, its the way you lose. Drawing to Norwich was like a loss - the body language of the team and the inherent negativity of all concerned was very disturbing Johnny and Sammy were key members of our successful team. They have not been replaced. And for the first time in memory Gary started making very strange decisions I will always support the rams but I have to say, even I am tiring of the annual self-inflicted implosion at this time of year Still, the days are getting lighter, the cricket season gets closer, the bulbs are coming out and frankly , the championship is really not that bad Hold firm Bobby hold firm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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