rynny Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 51 minutes ago, Simsy said: What all 11? No it's true his last 25 apps in all comps he only has 1 goal. Sky posted it a few games ago at 21. I would take you far more seriously if you admit Martin didn't play well or the fact he's off form. Why do you bring up vydra? Does it satisfy you to try knock another's player to defend one you like? I agree we don't have a striker who will get 20+ this season and when I feel we do I will be sure to mention it. 19 games since Martin scored. He has scored 1 for Scotland in that time, though. As a big Martin fan I have to admit he is out of form, but it is difficult to get in form coming on as a sub. He needs a goal, I bet inside he was cursing Winnall a bit as he was right behind him when he scored today. Having said that he did ok against Barnsley set up 1 goal and had a big part in the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Oh year to the person saying masion bennet needs to score he did that against barnsley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: Oh year to the person saying masion bennet needs to score he did that against barnsley. He did enough today to start in the next game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Hobhead Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 We were shocking. Huddlestone especially. Watching us now is horrendous viewing. If there's some kind of silver lining it needs to hurry up because I do not get what we are trying to do. I said this in June, July and August on this platform, the same post...... 'All I want is to come to Rams games and watch performances thinking I know what we are trying to do here. I can see the point.' That's all I expected. Growth. But all I've experienced is disappointment. We flog Hughes, Ince, Christie.. get rid of Bryson and Butters. Creativity gone. The replacements have done absolutely nothing so far. We have lived off Vydra who is the only player to offer any sort of consistent showing. And I don't even rate him that highly. Huddlestone is horrific. I said it was a bad move the day he returned. Not because he's horrific, but because we didn't need that kind of player. At all. GR talked of young and hungry players, yet he's recruited (bar Lawrence) nothing of the sort. We are top heavy with ageing players on big money who don't seem that fussed. I sense another change at this rate. Yaaay for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arch Deacon Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 7 hours ago, Ninos said: Im afraid i've been too kind to Martin. What an utterly useless player he is, slow, lazy, and incapable. At best he can win a throw in. He's basically packed up playing football. Otherwise, too much lack of quality including what is sadly appearing to be a hardworking but mostly impotent Lawrence. Wisdom, Winnall need to be in there from the start. Davis immense. There's only one thing more predictable than a dire Derby performance and that's a Ninos scapegoating of a single Derby player when the whole lot were dunnage!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, Paul71 said: He did enough today to start in the next game I am not so sure, depends on the position for me. Too weak defensively to play out wide away from home and I've been itching for him to get game time for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Yes from as he offers pace and power down the wing. As every one saw he puts in decent crosses into the box. But i would personal put some more under 23 players in the team Tuesday perhaps have player just signed instead bradley johnson or perhaps drop tom Huddlestone as well and have thorn and max bird kid in the middle of the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Aralliss Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 5 hours ago, Doodle said: How can a winger look dangerous with no final ball. Re: Lawrence He looked lively, didn't panic on the ball , beat players, kept moves going. Not sure Laurence was the problem today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Bennet put one cross in for us to score, fecked up a great one on one chance, a bit like Viddders would. What else did he do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Aralliss Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 5 hours ago, B4ev6is said: How dare knock masion bennet he came on provided the cross for the goal. And once again nearley scored. What freaking else do yoi want from a player. To score that goal or at least not hit it straight at the keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Lets see got back help defand and Got some tackles and offers that heart and drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Aralliss Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 5 hours ago, G-Ram said: two poo teams cancelling each other out with their pooness. ? Favourite comment to date ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 2 hours ago, jono said: I don't completely buy this contention that the midfield has been wrecked. Midfield has been a continuing problem for a long time. We have only had a brief period when Bryson / Hendrick + Thorne or Eustace were firing on all cylinders.( and without rose tinted specs that wasn't always the case ) and Yes there was the odd match too where Will's creativity gave us some thing different but our link between a sound enough back 4 and a competent attack has been fragile sometimes and one dimensional on others. True we lack dynamism and bite but previously we have been timid and at times plain lightweight. A bit of Will magic or 2014 Bryson energy might make the odd good game but don't solve the problem fundamentally True. But we haven't even got that to build on now. how could johnson be rated better than hughes or bryson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arch Deacon Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, Warren Hobhead said: We were shocking. Huddlestone especially. Watching us now is horrendous viewing. If there's some kind of silver lining it needs to hurry up because I do not get what we are trying to do. I said this in June, July and August on this platform, the same post...... 'All I want is to come to Rams games and watch performances thinking I know what we are trying to do here. I can see the point.' That's all I expected. Growth. But all I've experienced is disappointment. We flog Hughes, Ince, Christie.. get rid of Bryson and Butters. Creativity gone. The replacements have done absolutely nothing so far. We have lived off Vydra who is the only player to offer any sort of consistent showing. And I don't even rate him that highly. Huddlestone is horrific. I said it was a bad move the day he returned. Not because he's horrific, but because we didn't need that kind of player. At all. GR talked of young and hungry players, yet he's recruited (bar Lawrence) nothing of the sort. We are top heavy with ageing players on big money who don't seem that fussed. I sense another change at this rate. Yaaay for us. Correct! The truth is, you can chart this whole sorry saga back to the dismissal of Clememt IMO! 5th in the league at the time but playing a brand of football apparently not to everyone's liking! Hi Karumba! How much would you give to be in that position now? The fact is, he was taking us in a direction. He had a strategy and a plan! He had only the one transfer window and for the most part brought in real footballers showing good form, not hoofballers in the twilight of their careers. But he became the victim of an owner that payed way too much attention to twitter and forum opinions of b£&@ ends that know f£&@ all about football. AND WE WERE 5th FFS!!! It's clearly not the fault of fans who presumably only want the best for the club, but by the scapegoating of individual players, management, or general negativity, are having more sway than is healthy. The fault lies firmly at the doorstep of MM. time for him to go!!! Taking GR with him, and maybe Ninos???!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyhill60 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 "The replacements have done absolutely nothing so far. We have lived off Vydra who is the only player to offer any sort of consistent showing. And I don't even rate him that highly. " Watching him reminds me of pinball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 31 minutes ago, The Arch Deacon said: Correct! The truth is, you can chart this whole sorry saga back to the dismissal of Clememt IMO! 5th in the league at the time but playing a brand of football apparently not to everyone's liking! Hi Karumba! How much would you give to be in that position now? The fact is, he was taking us in a direction. He had a strategy and a plan! He had only the one transfer window and for the most part brought in real footballers showing good form, not hoofballers in the twilight of their careers. But he became the victim of an owner that payed way too much attention to twitter and forum opinions of b£&@ ends that know f£&@ all about football. AND WE WERE 5th FFS!!! It's clearly not the fault of fans who presumably only want the best for the club, but by the scapegoating of individual players, management, or general negativity, are having more sway than is healthy. The fault lies firmly at the doorstep of MM. time for him to go!!! Taking GR with him, and maybe Ninos???!!! Bunch of trash. Have you forgotten how mind numbingly boring Clement football was? And how unfit the players were? Rowett is Pep Guardiola compared to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arch Deacon Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ninos said: Bunch of trash. Have you forgotten how mind numbingly boring Clement football was? And how unfit the players were? Rowett is Pep Guardiola compared to him. ?????????????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arch Deacon Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Ninos said: Bunch of trash. Have you forgotten how mind numbingly boring Clement football was? And how unfit the players were? Rowett is Pep Guardiola compared to him. Ninos, this is why you lose all credibility on this forum! Forget your vitriolic scapegoating of individual players when things aren't quite going you way! You just know absolutely nack all about football. To suggest we're better off now than under clement is not just fanciful twaddle, it's statistically garbage!! Apart from the Hull game, this season has been as entertaining as watching paint dry! GR will be gone in a month and you know it!!! Or maybe you don't!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 17 minutes ago, The Arch Deacon said: Ninos, this is why you lose all credibility on this forum! Forget your vitriolic scapegoating of individual players when things aren't quite going you way! You just know absolutely nack all about football. To suggest we're better off now than under clement is not just fanciful twaddle, it's statistically garbage!! Apart from the Hull game, this season has been as entertaining as watching paint dry! GR will be gone in a month and you know it!!! Or maybe you don't!!! Sure. Paint drying defines Clement football. I really don't give a monkeys about forum credibility favourable or unfavorable. Plus I wasn't aware you were one who articulates the forum consensus - presumably which is according to you that Clement was really good. Get a grip on reality. Recall he got worse and worse as the season went on - that's not the sign of a good manager. Repeat posters on this forum have vociferously defended Martin Butterfield Camara Warnock Weimann and Bent at various points - all non impact players who've garnished zero interest from top teams. Now you want to add Clement ? Yes he got a job at Swansea - lucky for him - but have you seen what hes doing with them? Are they improving ? Is he taking them down ? What they did in their most recent match v Spurs was an embarrassment to football - negative beyond belief. I'm not pleased with losing Hughes Ince Christie and Bryso but he is smart (Winnall Wisdom Davies all very good pickups) and he will soon sort out the poor player accumulation mess that your boys Clement Mac and Pearson created for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arch Deacon Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ninos said: Sure. Paint drying defines Clement football. I really don't give a monkeys about forum credibility favourable or unfavorable. Plus I wasn't aware you were one who articulates the forum consensus - presumably which is according to you that Clement was really good. Get a grip on reality. Recall he got worse and worse as the season went on - that's not the sign of a good manager. Repeat posters on this forum have vociferously defended Martin Butterfield Camara Warnock Weimann and Bent at various points - all non impact players who've garnished zero interest from top teams. Now you want to add Clement ? Yes he got a job at Swansea - lucky for him - but have you seen what hes doing with them? Are they improving ? Is he taking them down ? What they did in their most recent match v Spurs was an embarrassment to football - negative beyond belief. I'm not pleased with losing Hughes Ince Christie and Bryso but he is smart (Winnall Wisdom Davies all very good pickups) and he will soon sort out the poor player accumulation mess that your boys Clement Mac and Pearson created for us. So you're happy with the way the season's going then? And in Rowett's transfer window? You fancy us for a top 6 finish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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