Ramble On Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I'd like the experience in the squad. We've been missing that presence in the middle of the park since we lost George to injury again. Teams just walking through where our midfield should be! Which would possibly mean it'd be between Thorne and Whelan for CDM. And Gaz plans on playing Hughes/Johnson in a more advanced role. Bryson and Butters fighting for a spot as backup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Whelan can score some screamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Whelan/Led and Thorne sat in front of a back four would be decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doodle Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, QuitYourJibbaJivin said: Whelan/Led and Thorne sat in front of a back four would be decent. And boring. In front of a back 3 fair enough but the only time we should even consider 2 holders in front of a back 4 is away to top of the table teams or a switch of formation late on in games if we are 1 up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 - - - - - - - - - - Carson - - - - - - - - - - Wisdom - Keogh - - Davies - Forsyth - - - - - Thorne - - - - Whelan - - - - - - ??????????????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Nuwtfly said: - - - - - - - - - - Carson - - - - - - - - - - Wisdom - Keogh - - Davies - Forsyth - - - - - Thorne - - - - Whelan - - - - - - ??????????????????????????????? Ince - Hughes/Martin - New LW Nugent In a dream world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: 2 year contract + 1 year option is very sensible IMO. After the Darren Bent saga I'd avoid all +1 options on any aging player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramble On Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: - - - - - - - - - - Carson - - - - - - - - - - Wisdom - Keogh - - Davies - Forsyth - - - - - Thorne - - - - Whelan - - - - - - ??????????????????????????????? I'd prefer us to play with a single holding midfielder, make Thorne work for his place. We'd be much better off as a squad with a fitter determined George Thorne. Would like to see the extra creativity up the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 14 hours ago, Kernow said: He would be a fantastic replacement for Hughes, and would certainly soften the blow if Hughes does leave. As cover for JT or replacement if things dont go right for JT.But to replace Will with a 33 yeart old laughable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 14 hours ago, Millenniumram said: Would be nice to have a character like him in the dressing room, 1 mil seems like a fair price for him so I'd say make the move. Would provide cover for thorne Exactly! He's 33,not 63 so a holding role is well within his remit for at least two years.If he helps to get us promoted,it would have been £1m well spent.As for Thorne,don't expect him to go straight back into the side after such a long lay off.Whelan would give us the cover and allow Johnson to push further forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 How old was Eustace when he became one of our most important players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: How old was Eustace when he became one of our most important players? 34/35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Nuwtfly said: How old was Eustace when he became one of our most important players? Exactly, we're talking about a bloke with around 250 premier league appearances here, and still made 30 last season, so clearly the quality is there and he's not past it yet. You often see people complaining about aging players, particularly if they don't hit the ground running straight away. But often they've been very important parts of our team in recent years, adding that steel Andre charectar that we maybe lacked a few years ago under clough. You look at eustace like you say, then theres Baird, warnock, nugent, even bent and quite likely Davies which have all contributed positively to the strength of our side, as well as in the dressing room despite being the wrong side of 30. Don't nessercerily think there's much in this at the moment, I'm sure someone within the club has just been alerted to his availability after the failed villa bid, but if he does join I'm sure he'll prove a valuable short term addition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: 34/35. Wow, was it that old? Might need to rethink my stance on Whelan then. 5 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Exactly, we're talking about a bloke with around 250 premier league appearances here, and still made 30 last season, so clearly the quality is there and he's not past it yet. You often see people complaining about aging players, particularly if they don't hit the ground running straight away. But often they've been very important parts of our team in recent years, adding that steel Andre charectar that we maybe lacked a few years ago under clough. You look at eustace like you say, then theres Baird, warnock, nugent, even bent and quite likely Davies which have all contributed positively to the strength of our side, as well as in the dressing room despite being the wrong side of 30. Don't nessercerily think there's much in this at the moment, I'm sure someone within the club has just been alerted to his availability after the failed villa bid, but if he does join I'm sure he'll prove a valuable short term addition 38 appearances last season in all competitions. Impressive for someone of his age. Especially considering the kind of players Whelan was competing with (record signing Imbula, for example). So far in the transfer window with completed age/experience with youth/power in Davies/Wisdom. If we can continue to bring in a balance of those two things with the rest of our signings this summer (Whelan/Irvine/Ledley/Watkins/March as examples of some) then we could well be looking at a talented, and more importantly "well balanced" squad for next season. Considering Rowett has stated on multiple occasions that he wants to get the balance right, I'm hoping this will be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Age isn't critical for a holding midfield. Holding midfield is dictated by ability to tackle and speed of thought, not pace. Eustace did a fantastic job, at an older age than Whelan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Andicis said: Age isn't critical for a holding midfield. Holding midfield is dictated by ability to tackle and speed of thought, not pace. Eustace did a fantastic job, at an older age than Whelan. Yep and he had Bryson Hendrick and Hughes to do the nice stuff, we look like having Johnson Butterfield and an a more injured Bryson and won't look dreadfully great then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Nuwtfly said: - - - - - - - - - - Carson - - - - - - - - - - Wisdom - Keogh - - Davies - Forsyth - - - - - Thorne - - - - Whelan - - - - - - ??????????????????????????????? I think we will be starting out like this if the injured return Carson Baird Wisdom Davies. Forsyth Russell Thorne Johnson Boyd Nugent Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Yep and he had Bryson Hendrick and Hughes to do the nice stuff, we look like having Johnson Butterfield and an a more injured Bryson and won't look dreadfully great then. Well, I will wait and see what other players we pick up to play in midfield, since none of us can say with any degree of certainty who will start in our midfield next season. My main point was that it isn't fair to judge Whelan based off age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Andicis said: Well, I will wait and see what other players we pick up to play in midfield, since none of us can say with any degree of certainty who will start in our midfield next season. My main point was that it isn't fair to judge Whelan based off age. Yes I agree, we need balance and yes we will see if we get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 this would be akin to when we bought Savage in. Decent footballing brain and good honest pro, but like Savage, the game would pass him by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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