DEL Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said: Ledley also played in that game, just FYI. Good player too. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, Fraser_23 said: Nah he was watching Walters FTFY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 It's a no for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 It does surprise me that we continue to be linked with this type of player. Given recent spending and the obvious need to be more prudent, to add another player in his thirties dropping down a division on Premier League wages seems counter-intuitive, whether it be Boyd, or indeed Whelan. This is especially true given that we are seemingly finding it hard to move players in the existing squad on and so, the wage bill could quickly reach unsustainable levels, if it hasn't already?! It's probably a fair estimate to say we already have at least 15 players earning £20,000 a week or more, so I just don't see the sense in adding to that number until we see movement in the opposite direction. Don't get me wrong, Whelan would tick a lot of boxes - he would be a short term fix to a long term problem we have had in midfield, and in all fairness, you can't argue with his pedigree of almost a decade of Premier League football and well over 50 caps for Ireland on his CV. He would bring a lot of the qualities we have lacked over the years - leadership, tenacity, bravery and know-how - but it's a very short term move. He'd be excellent value for a season or two and the move would probably follow a similar trajectory to how Sidwell has done at Brighton. But what about beyond that? Where are the building blocks for the future? It just doesn't seem to be in line with the profile of player I expected Rowett to sign - young, hungry, athletic, up-and-coming, and unheralded in most cases. That's the worrying thing. How many 'leaders' does one team need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doodle Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Jourdan said: It does surprise me that we continue to be linked with this type of player. Given recent spending and the obvious need to be more prudent, to add another player in his thirties dropping down a division on Premier League wages seems counter-intuitive, whether it be Boyd, or indeed Whelan. This is especially true given that we are seemingly finding it hard to move players in the existing squad on and so, the wage bill could quickly reach unsustainable levels, if it hasn't already?! It's probably a fair estimate to say we already have at least 15 players earning £20,000 a week or more, so I just don't see the sense in adding to that number until we see movement in the opposite direction. Don't get me wrong, Whelan would tick a lot of boxes - he would be a short term fix to a long term problem we have had in midfield, and in all fairness, you can't argue with his pedigree of almost a decade of Premier League football and well over 50 caps for Ireland on his CV. He would bring a lot of the qualities we have lacked over the years - leadership, tenacity, bravery and know-how - but it's a very short term move. He'd be excellent value for a season or two and the move would probably follow a similar trajectory to how Sidwell has done at Brighton. But what about beyond that? Where are the building blocks for the future? It just doesn't seem to be in line with the profile of player I expected Rowett to sign - young, hungry, athletic, up-and-coming, and unheralded in most cases. That's the worrying thing. How many 'leaders' does one team need? I have no idea about the financial intricacies but I agree entirely about squad size. It's just getting ridiculous now. On a footballing front, if this was to happen and with the signing of Wisdom and Davis. I think we may be looking at copying the Chelsea formation. With Whalen and Thorne as holders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Whelan is will be a leader on the pitch and this is what is currently missing. Get him signed Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I have always despised Glenn Whelan as a player for all the reasons he might be good for Derby! If we get him we will need some young legs to support him. I wonder if this makes the Watkins and Irvine transfers more likely? I think we could lose Bryson and Butterfield as well as Hughes and Ince. A big change of emphasis and a more steely look to the side supplemented by pace and energy. It is a little odd that Davies, Boyd and Whelan represent all the things Rowett said he didn't want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 In the Exeter arms a few weeks back I said to a few friends my number 1 midfield target would be Glenn Whelan, closely followed by Charlie Adam. Gary must have been hiding in the bushes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColchesterRam Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I don't believe this is true, more than likely to be Agent/Media talking rubbish to try and push through the move to Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkeram7 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 There's no doubt about it, this would be a fantastic deal! Gives us an extra bit of bite in the middle and played most if his career in the premier league. With regards to the 15 players sitting on 20k plus a week, we'll get them out just be patient and give Rowett time. He made a valid point at the end of the season, players don't usually like to sit in the reserves too long. If we wrapped this deal up the squad will be near off 30 pros, some will want to leave naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 An excellent choice someone who has seen it and done it at the highest level for many years. I better version of JE, a motivater, organiser and leader. A player of his type has been needed for a few years especially with Thorne's unfortunate injury problems. We would certainly become even tougher to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Blimey! Universal approval so far.I like the thought of him in our midfield as well.Villa have offered £500k and Stoke want £1m.It's easy for us to spend Mel's millions but,even though he's 33,he'd be a really good signing.As someone has already said,the replacement for Eustace we've lacked for ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazzaRam Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 He's the man to do the job. Always been impressed with him. No fuss and gets on with the job. Good player. Get him in Gary!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuxtonRam74 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 If we could get him at 1m or less then that'd be a decent signing given the crazy money being spent on unproven players in the English league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamin Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 great player , get the deal done , got a few years left 3 year contract job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Yes please, age not an issue for me especially as he's a holding midfielder. ~£1m with a 2 year contract + 1 year option would be perfect. He's 13 months younger than Sidwell who did a brilliant job with Brighton last season and has just signed a new contract with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottrillRAM Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 £1 million really isn't much compared to the market and what he'd bring to the team!, wouldn't have any need to rush Thorne back into the side so worth the £1 million even just for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Different positions I know but if we sold Camara and it meant the money was spent on Whelan id be very happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Sounds interesting and from what I've seen on here he looks a popular choice but we are pretty overweight in the middle already so if this is true then who's leaving ? .. Doesn't seem to have been any gossip about anyone leaving except Will which from an age balance point of view (quite apart from skill set ) seems unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 So Hughes out and whelan in - not for me 33 year olds want to play and nobody seems to be fixed in central midfield currently- I think we will have a mixed bag of Johnson Thorne Bryson and butterfield fo two spots and currently Hughes who would be replaced by whelan? Do we need another defensive midfielder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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