robglosta Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 ...and Clement was deemed to be failing. Biggest mistake Mel ever made, that. Have only gone backwards since that move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I agreed with the sacking at Clement at the time once the decision was explained. It's the fact that every single decision we've made since Hull away has contradicted that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 You don't sack a manager 5 points off top unless his role was untenable for some reason. At least that's what I've always pinned my hopes on, because otherwise Clement's sacking truly was a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 The decision was correct at the time, the huge disappointment is a top six side which we have being destroyed in a matter of two months and turned into relagation fodder, enough said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robglosta Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Sparkle said: The decision was correct at the time, the huge disappointment is a top six side which we have being destroyed in a matter of two months and turned into relagation fodder, enough said! How was it correct? We were a one and a bit win swing from being top? Plus he was a new coach that would have got stronger given some nurturing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 nowhere near as bad a decision as sacking Stevie Mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 6 minutes ago, cosmic said: You don't sack a manager 5 points off top unless his role was untenable for some reason. At least that's what I've always pinned my hopes on, because otherwise Clement's sacking truly was a disgrace. If we wanted to follow the Southampton and Swansea model of each manager following his predecessor and being as much of a continuation as possible, if he was successful in his interview because he claimed to buy into it and if it's true that Mel repeatedly tried to make him conform then I agree with the sacking and think it was fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Didn't agree with Clement going at the time, and have seen nothing since to make me think it's been the correct decision. Also, I've still not seen anything explaining the reason for his sacking. If someone could tell me that would be great, cos that little run of what, 4 or 5 without a win seems so long ago now. Just because a chairman throws millions of pounds around, it does not necessarily make him a good chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, robglosta said: How was it correct? We were a one and a bit win swing from being top? Plus he was a new coach that would have got stronger given some nurturing. All about opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robglosta Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 15 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: nowhere near as bad a decision as sacking Stevie Mac Different ball game, Mac kept swiping right for Mike Ashley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Remember turning 5 Live on and there was genuine dismay from all the football pundits at the time. None including managers could figure it out. I was genuinely shocked. I always had a lot of time for him, not just with hindsight. That's gone and part of history. Things may move quickly if Tuesday is a fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I thought Clement should get more time but we were bloody awful and terrible to watch. I remember us beating Bristol city 4-1 and we were rubbish. But were top. We are worse now even if you ignore the league table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 In fairness, Mac had his head turned - he was going anyway. Clement wasn't sacked for football reasons, there was something that remains private that forced mel's hand. I'm certain Mel would never had sacked Clement in that position - Clement was long term. Pearson seemed like a safe pair of hands but if it continues to not work out then he will need replacing. And that will be the first time that Mel will need to make a decision based on purely football reasons. What's Steve Bruce up to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Clement sacking was a joke at the time and events since havent made it feel any wiser.. I can recall the total derision at the decision across the media and as a few have stated there must have been non football related reasons - that is the only explaination.. Look at where we are now we are a total shambles on the field of play - The Wassall decision was a joke, how long will Pearson get to take our great club even further backwards? Its like evolution in reverse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robglosta Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 13 minutes ago, Yani P said: Clement sacking was a joke at the time and events since havent made it feel any wiser.. I can recall the total derision at the decision across the media and as a few have stated there must have been non football related reasons - that is the only explaination.. Look at where we are now we are a total shambles on the field of play - The Wassall decision was a joke, how long will Pearson get to take our great club even further backwards? Its like evolution in reverse... You say non-football reasons, but the reasons stated were that he wasn't buying into the Derby Way. Is this the Derby Way? This is a grubby league where you have to scrap, and being 5 points off top in February will never be grounds for dismissal, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Believe what you want but it's clear he wasn't sacked for football reasons no matter what the club says! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Mel will regret saying "the Derby way" for the rest if his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 I think he sacked him a bit too early, but we were playing poorly and the results were beginning to reflect that- where everything went wrong was appointing a manager this summer who didn't suit our players and asking him to work with what he's got, rather than rebuilding the team to his style. Although equally the baffling tactical decisions pearsons made so far have no excuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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