nfb Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 As some of you know, ive been around a while but dont post a huge amount, mainly because its all been discussed/said before over past seasons... but here's my proverbial conundrum Do 'you' want promotion ? I ask because with all the wrist slashing and finger pointing and general angst that losing or apparently just not signing players brings, can you imagine being in the Prem ? with players now fetching 20m for an average prem standard player ! MM has a few bob, but... In truth i for one wont be too upset if we don't achieve promotion, does that make me a lesser fan (my 1st DCFC game was in 1966 against Man U, ive supported since ) I look forward to seeing what MM and NP can build,and i love the idea of 'home grown' players being taken thro I buy into the whole MM philosophy, but its sooo expensive now and fans demand too much most of the time inho. I cant wait for this 'New era', and i'll revel in every match, but i wont be upset and slash my wrists if we dont get promotion.. will you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 We sat on the car park at Hull as last season's dreams faded away, and the Memsahib said "Thank goodness that's over". If we are good enough, then we will achieve promotion, but until then, we will just continue to enjoy our team being part of the most competitive league in world football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I do want promotion, sort of, but would i enjoy finishing top 6 every year in the Championship or scraping 17th in the PL? Probably the championship...i dont go to watch man utd or chelsea or whomever...i go to watch derby and spend time with my old man...so i want to go and enjoy it, not come away thinking did we just get beat 4-0 at home on the last day of the season by a team also getting relegated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Personally I want us to play well, as we know we can, and prove ourselves superior to our rivals over the course of the season. Unfortunately it seems that as part of the deal, I can only have that if I accept we are then moved to become proverbial cannon fodder in the most over-commercialised and ludicrously over-hyped league in world football. I'll accept that, but no, I don't see promotion as the end in itself. Wouldn't it be interesting if it were optional for the division champions as to whether they went into premier league or not.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Yes. I want to see Derby County compete in the best league in the world. I could never imagine sitting here and thinking, the Championship is cosy, let's stay here and go through play off failure season after season. Being in a Premier League relegation battle season after season would give me more pleasure, the goal, the ambition of stability in the worlds best league and once that's been achieved you try and take the club on to the next level, challenging for Europe, then..... Accepting where we are with zero ambition to be the best you can be, no way Pedro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestKentRam Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I'm not bothered if we go up or not, but feel that it's an expected ambition perhaps due to us getting close in the last 3 seasons. What I like is to watch attractive attacking football, without being defensively frail. This can turn into a promotion push though... It's always nice to have an aim to progress, in order to stop stagnation. I wouldn't want the club or owner/s to fall away if their aims are promotion, and then a downward spiral to result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irobinson Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I want to see my team again in the top flight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t'oldu Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Bet the radio Derby team are secretly relieved not to have to try and pronounce all those 'impossible' names every week !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 54 minutes ago, eddie said: We sat on the car park at Hull as last season's dreams faded away, and the Memsahib said "Thank goodness that's over". If we are good enough, then we will achieve promotion, but until then, we will just continue to enjoy our team being part of the most competitive league in world football. She speaks sense eddie . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Of course I want promotion. This is professional football, we are here to do our best. Who says that if we get promoted we will struggle? Leicester showed last season that the premier league is actually very,very average in terms of quality and not the best league that sky sports says it is. Leicester's achievement gives hope to every club in the league that they can do well. It may be competitive but thats only because the league is made up of some average teams as the results in europe suggest. West Ham got played off the park and lost in europe in qualifying to a team that I have never even heard of this past week. I think we would do a lot better in the prem than some are making out. Leicester don't have many quality players but showed that if you have a good team spirit then you can do well. Remember a few years ago when Wes Morgan was considered to be a donkey? Fast forward a few years and he is the current captain of the premier league champions. The hardest part is getting there. We will be fine once we get there because Mel will be able to exercise his financial power, which he isn't able to do in the championship due to harsher ffp regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robglosta Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Gladly take it if it comes, see how we do. Even if it just to balance the books and keep us sustainable for another 10 years, so be it. I do enjoy the thrill of the Championship though, there are still a few grubby little grounds with plenty of quirks. Not sure you get much of that in the EPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I've enjoyed the last 3 seasons playing good football(mostly) and fighting for promotion. I don't want to see us gamble and get in a financial mess like we have done in the past. Happy days if we get promoted and it would be great for these players, the fans and everyone involved with the club if we ever went up I'd like us to compete and have stability within the prem, but if we are to yo yo at least there are the financial rewards that come with it. If we guy sensible players that will increase in value then we could be on a sure footing. Playing top dollar for 30+ year olds isn't the way to go for me, like McCormack I don't think his value will increase and see it as a gamble not worth taking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Had this conversation numerous times and as much as I love this league and the competitiveness of it. It is actually an impossibility to stay as we have been and not go up or regress to mid table or worse. Players get older, fans get more impatient, signings don't pan out, better players get sold etc etc So we either get up, or prepare to miss out on play offs and regress within a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I want us to go up in and then sustain a premier league place playing attractive, attacking football. What I want and what I might get are two different things so I'll settle for us going up the ugly way if it then leads to the other. I agree with @Srg, we can't stand still without going backwards so it's onwards and upwards for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 I probably subsribe to what I interpret as Mel's philosphy (but I subscribed to it before he gave it a name for people to use against him). I want to watch us play good, attractive and entertaining football and go to every match in the belief that we can and will compete (not necessarily win, which is what I think a lot of fans unreasonably expect). I believe that that approach will ultimately lead to promotion and, at some point, to becoming an established Premier League team. While I would no doubt get some short term enjoyment and satisfaction of 'doing it ugly', which is what I would argue we did under Billy, it would be short lived, either because you have to start playing negative and ugly 'fear football' to just try to survive and/or you quicky get found out and end up worse off then you were before... again, we've been there and done that and I don't want it to happen again. Therefore, for me the number 1 priority is playing well and, from my perspective, enjoying the game (it is a game after all) and live in the hope and expectation that this will get us where we want to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 3 hours ago, RiddingsRam said: She speaks sense eddie . You know how people from Spain speak Spanish? Well, she's from Jibber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 We need to go up but I doubt we will this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 14 minutes ago, curtains said: We need to go up but I doubt we will this season. That's the spirit!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalf's shin pads Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 The club needs, and should be aiming for promotion, just as all other clubs ought to be doing in their respective leagues. Football is, even accounting for the financial muscle of the global superbrands, a meritocratic sporting competition and all clubs should aspire to achieve as much as they can at all times. I entirely understand the view of those citing the money some of the bigger clubs possess has and is diluting the validity of that competition, however, I believe the 'heyday' of the super clubs may be at least partially ebbing away. There is still a substantial gap, no doubt, but they do not look as invincible or as 'nailed on' as they have done throughout the previous ten to fifteen years. In any case, you have to be 'in it to win it', or at least to compete, and testing yourself against the best in the highest league. And that's before we get to the issue of the necessity of being in the Premier League if/when it becomes a franchise, as an increasing number of owners seem to be pushing for. But that is another debate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 25 minutes ago, LazloW said: That's the spirit!! Realism. Better sides in this League than us at the moment . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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