Eatonram Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 20 hours ago, uttoxram75 said: It was. You felt compelled to defend your ground against invading hordes. 1976, Man United fans invaded the pitch at the end of a game at the Baseball Ground. The police and stewards decided to let them on and tried to stop Derby fans from getting on instead. All 4 sides of the ground saw lads racing onto the pitch to confront United. It weren't planned or organised, it was just mayhem. If you didn't want to get involved you could just leave the stadium.....thousands of us didn't though, it felt like you was defending your home ...hundreds were still fighting an hour after the final whistle in running battles in the streets. Remember this well, a bloke on the Ossie end in a yellow vest (strangely) knocking seven bells out of about three Man U fans. He was a really big bloke! Personally I was sh!tting Mesen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Alan Ramage 4 EVA said: And the alley at the end was called Black Lane it used to lead onto Osmaston Road .They used to escort the away fans that way in the 70s That's what I was on about, oh number of times my old man used to shove me along, my feet not touching the ground as everyone pushed down that alley. Gawd knows why he insisted going that way, well I do actually, he just wanted to beat the traffic heading to Swarkestone way, as he parked on that long strip of a car park just round the corner from I think what was the football tavern? Both me and my dads mates kid, had to listen to all the away fan chants,nihilist having our innards squeezed out. Always remember it being real busy when the Scousers and Manc teams came down, they seemed to bring loads, but I was only 5-8 so might have just seemed that way. Thinking about it, makes me realise what a nutter the old man was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 4 hours ago, EastHertsRam said: Was Steve Bloomer playing that day Eddie ? No, but he was watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, eddie said: No, but he was watching. Helping your fight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, Tombo said: Helping your fight? Guiding our heroes in the chocolate, turquoise, amber, white and black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 On 18/02/2016 at 19:57, ossieram said: You couldn't avoid it at certain grounds. I remember coming out of Oldhams ground once, they had just finished demolishing some of the houses around the ground and there was bricks and rubble flying in both directions outside and if you weren't dodging rubble, you fighting either Oldham fans or the police. drinking in the Grange used to be safe.....but near end if jim smith promotion season we beat stoke abs ended their play off chances. The away ens was near empty for the Last 20 minutes having encountered their fans in the 90's knew there was trouble ahead. They fought with police outside ground and then roamed area between ground and station. My plan of drink as usual in grange failed as just I walked in I was shoved from lads being chased by stoke. They shut the door and then bang.....in went the windows and glass fell in my hair. Was a sunny day and retreating to beer garden was no good as near by building works supplied stokies with missiles. Bar and optics destroyed in true wild west fashion. the dlf were otherwise engaged and pub ruined. Always chuckled that when police turned up stoke walked down road to meet the police. None arrested as no one in pub could identify them. Lying on floor was a man hole cover they kindly threw through window. about two years earlier derby had trashed a stoke pub, only reported in stoke paper front page and no one really used internet back in 1996. context of 80's and 90's was police keeness to join in and administer punishment beatings totally illegally. Whacks on head and knee caps and elbows. Worst I saw was by BBG chip shop after game vs Tottenham in 1997. No away fans present. Ruck had happened a few minutes earlier. Copper administered hard whacks to head of a fan in front of families, kids. Loads shouted out the cop number. I even rang and reported it. Promised call from police never came, despite giving a lengthy verbal statement over the phone. I only did it to prove to myself nothing would happen even though loads were going to report it. Middlesbrough in fa cup qtr final lead to fights near train station. Police watched it .... Then administered punishment including head wounds to fans after it had all ended. I hears these first hand just after in pub, and personally always prefered fact those who wanted / needed to fight did so vs other like minded people. Hate when indiscriminate fights occured and would be chased just for leaving away end on foot and heading to car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashram Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 On 2/19/2016 at 13:31, Alan Ramage 4 EVA said: Saw D.C. At Fulham Last season (not this time) had 5 mins with him at 1/2 time he`d been poorly but said he was getting better ! Living legend!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 18 hours ago, igorlegend said: drinking in the Grange used to be safe.....but near end if jim smith promotion season we beat stoke abs ended their play off chances. The away ens was near empty for the Last 20 minutes having encountered their fans in the 90's knew there was trouble ahead. They fought with police outside ground and then roamed area between ground and station. My plan of drink as usual in grange failed as just I walked in I was shoved from lads being chased by stoke. They shut the door and then bang.....in went the windows and glass fell in my hair. Was a sunny day and retreating to beer garden was no good as near by building works supplied stokies with missiles. Bar and optics destroyed in true wild west fashion. the dlf were otherwise engaged and pub ruined. Always chuckled that when police turned up stoke walked down road to meet the police. None arrested as no one in pub could identify them. Lying on floor was a man hole cover they kindly threw through window. about two years earlier derby had trashed a stoke pub, only reported in stoke paper front page and no one really used internet back in 1996. Remember that Stoke game. Me and my mate had taken our lads (around 11 or 12 years old) and parked up near the Vulcan Arms. As we made our way back to the car we saw a long line of lads snaking through the crowd going toward the ground. There was a few Scottish accents amongst them, no colours, all casual gear.....found out later off a stokie acquaintance that they hadn't been to the game, sneaked into Derby during the match to avoid the police and attacked the Grange. The jocks were from Dundee who joined up with Stoke for a few frolics back then for some reason. Wasn't there only 8 or 10 Derby in the Grange at the time and around 100 Stoke attacking it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 51 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: Remember that Stoke game. Me and my mate had taken our lads (around 11 or 12 years old) and parked up near the Vulcan Arms. As we made our way back to the car we saw a long line of lads snaking through the crowd going toward the ground. There was a few Scottish accents amongst them, no colours, all casual gear.....found out later off a stokie acquaintance that they hadn't been to the game, sneaked into Derby during the match to avoid the police and attacked the Grange. The jocks were from Dundee who joined up with Stoke for a few frolics back then for some reason. Wasn't there only 8 or 10 Derby in the Grange at the time and around 100 Stoke attacking it? was only a couple of dlf....using mobiles to call their mates, (amazing phones though not common were well used ) only to be told they were fighting around Ossie Road. Was a good fifteen minutes before even police arrived. At least 50 Stoke, I always assumed they were from the match so your explanation fits with how police were not tailing them. Grange was packed and could only just get in thru door as usual, before seconds later the bricks came through the windows. Fans in pub and beer garden got brave once stokies were nt coming in to fight. So loads of bricks were thrown back out at stokies. The road was barely passable to cars by the time the police started walking towards the pub. Shanne shinner Nicholson used to drink with dlf after games in the grange. He is now a fitness trainer and helps train Mickleover Sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Mills Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I bumped shoulders with a Leeds fan once. We both said "sorry" and was on our way. The 00's were crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 my other dlf story was when I lived in Rugby, which on a Saturday night was a stop off place for teams hooligans to have a fight. after playing arsenal away in the late 80's and seeing dlf fight arsenal outside ground they stopped off in Rugby. Rugby had a lot of supporters of London teams. The dlf ended up fighting with some local spurs fans resulting in one rugby lad having his leg broken! Always had to avoid the spurs fans out at night in Rugby thereafter......they were no longer friendly to Derby fans! When I lived in Derby in there were strong rumours Callaghan had to leave Derby as he had been involved with a partner of a dlf member. ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StockholmRam Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 4 hours ago, igorlegend said: my other dlf story was when I lived in Rugby, which on a Saturday night was a stop off place for teams hooligans to have a fight. after playing arsenal away in the late 80's and seeing dlf fight arsenal outside ground they stopped off in Rugby. Rugby had a lot of supporters of London teams. The dlf ended up fighting with some local spurs fans resulting in one rugby lad having his leg broken! Always had to avoid the spurs fans out at night in Rugby thereafter......they were no longer friendly to Derby fans! When I lived in Derby in there were strong rumours Callaghan had to leave Derby as he had been involved with a partner of a dlf member. ..... That story is not correct Igor... DLF " protected" Cally from the landlord of the Shakespere on Sadler gate. You got the " involved with someone else's missus" right though... He was a lad and then some Cally was but generally a good lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North East Ram Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 1 minute ago, StockholmRam said: That story is not correct Igor... DLF " protected" Cally from the landlord of the Shakespere on Sadler gate. You got the " involved with someone else's missus" right though... He was a lad and then some Cally was but generally a good lad. This is what the story seemed to be. Cally has previously 'credited' the DLF for sorting his Derby future as he was about to leave us due to other circumstances getting a but hairy. Getting kneecapped was a phrase sometimes associated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHomunculusLives Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I have never understood why getting into a fight with supporters of a different club is anything to be celebrated or admired. It's remarkable how many ex-hooligans have made money out of their chest-beating books recounting their unsavoury exploits. Thankfully it seems to be increasingly a thing of the past now but the way these people behaved shouldn't be romanticised in my view. Whether it's pre-arranged with other thugs or not, it's still disruptive and anti-social. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 29 minutes ago, Tim Bucktoo said: This is what the story seemed to be. Cally has previously 'credited' the DLF for sorting his Derby future as he was about to leave us due to other circumstances getting a but hairy. Getting kneecapped was a phrase sometimes associated... The Thompsons owned most of the pubs around Sadlergate at the time and Cally had a dabble with the wife of one of them and had been told to leave or their bouncers would end his football career. A few lads from the DLF paid a visit and told them to leave Cally alone or certain things would happen. One of the Thompsons had a nasty experience a few years earlier when he got burnt in a fire and he was told that fires are easy to start. I was told this just after it had happened so the details might not be 100% accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 1 hour ago, StockholmRam said: That story is not correct Igor... DLF " protected" Cally from the landlord of the Shakespere on Sadler gate. You got the " involved with someone else's missus" right though... He was a lad and then some Cally was but generally a good lad. Thanks for clarifying my failed memory. I used to live in west end and Queen Vic was where I was told. Prior to it all Sadler gate issue I used to often see Callaghan in the Hamblin Casino. Student grants were very handy back in the day ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Coventry away at Highfield road, I went with the Burton DLF boys... I remember meeting at the Midway pub at 07:00 (as Coventry is famously such a long way from Burton) and witnessing copious amounts of illegal substances being consumed, then heading off down the A444. We had arranged to meet 6 or 7 separate mini buses at a little country pub just outside of Coventry that had agreed to open at 08:00 for us. We arrived and this little country pub looked like the Star Wars bar but with a lot more 80's tennis gear on show! All the mini buses had got signs on them stating that they were some church or others annual pilgrimage to Canterbury cathedral that one of the lads had made up at work. The plan was to get to Coventry before Coventry did and whole up in their pub, so we set off and met up again at this bar near Highfield road for about 09:30, obviously it was closed but after a bit of negotiating with the landlord he opened up for us. It was hilarious to see the Coventry lads turning up in small groups (this was all way before mobile phones) and coming into the pub, looking around, realizing what had happened and then spinning straight back around again. Eventually a crowd gathered outside and the Derby police came in to talk to us all... They thought it was funny, especially the church outing signs that were now everywhere. We got bundled back into the mini buses and escorted out of Coventry, by this time it was still only about 14:00 so we decided to go to Hinkley and wait for the Leicester game to finish and see what happened there.... by this point I had definitely had enough to drink and was thankful when the local police came and found us and escorted us all the way back to Burton. A great day, and we were back in Burton for 17:00..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: Coventry away at Highfield road, I went with the Burton DLF boys... I remember meeting at the Midway pub at 07:00 (as Coventry is famously such a long way from Burton) and witnessing copious amounts of illegal substances being consumed, then heading off down the A444. We had arranged to meet 6 or 7 separate mini buses at a little country pub just outside of Coventry that had agreed to open at 08:00 for us. We arrived and this little country pub looked like the Star Wars bar but with a lot more 80's tennis gear on show! All the mini buses had got signs on them stating that they were some church or others annual pilgrimage to Canterbury cathedral that one of the lads had made up at work. The plan was to get to Coventry before Coventry did and whole up in their pub, so we set off and met up again at this bar near Highfield road for about 09:30, obviously it was closed but after a bit of negotiating with the landlord he opened up for us. It was hilarious to see the Coventry lads turning up in small groups (this was all way before mobile phones) and coming into the pub, looking around, realizing what had happened and then spinning straight back around again. Eventually a crowd gathered outside and the Derby police came in to talk to us all... They thought it was funny, especially the church outing signs that were now everywhere. We got bundled back into the mini buses and escorted out of Coventry, by this time it was still only about 14:00 so we decided to go to Hinkley and wait for the Leicester game to finish and see what happened there.... by this point I had definitely had enough to drink and was thankful when the local police came and found us and escorted us all the way back to Burton. A great day, and we were back in Burton for 17:00..! the burton lads were first I would see when drinking at away games. Always felt safer then. Never knew their names but saw one recently and chatted at a mickleover sports game with his son and my daughter. Last time I had properly seen him was Wembley defeat vs Leicester in 1994, being chased out of a pub on the high street. Remember them all dancing and singing on tables to Madness at 11am away to blackburn in play offs. One if my best away days despite defeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 9 minutes ago, igorlegend said: the burton lads were first I would see when drinking at away games. Always felt safer then. Never knew their names but saw one recently and chatted at a mickleover sports game with his son and my daughter. Last time I had properly seen him was Wembley defeat vs Leicester in 1994, being chased out of a pub on the high street. Remember them all dancing and singing on tables to Madness at 11am away to blackburn in play offs. One if my best away days despite defeat Happy days indeed, I ran the Derby half marathon (amazingly called the Ramathon) the morning of the BlackBurn game then went straight up there with a bunch of them in my running gear.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Coventry took over the Strutts pub in late 90's from 11am was full of Coventry fans. I knew a couple from my school days. Police kept them in pub and only let mw and mates out as we could show them our Derby season tickets. The Rocket by train station used to be good for Cov away games. But was always told to avoid after a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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