Mafiabob Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, curtains said: But he said I had been in a coma for 2 years so I asked him to explain please. Why you appealing to a moderator if you want me banned just say so. And the final ace in the pack... The victim card.... Just showing Dav why... As he asked the question why your threads go crazy with replies, I thought I would tag him in to my reply as to what I think happens.... Like I say, whenever anyone makes a different point to you, you reply with another question... Then after a while you'll sulk and think everyone's getting on your back when you people put their theories/opinions to you that don't chime.... Your reply to me I've just quoted has just proved that. No where I've said I want you banned... And I don't. I shan't much more with you on football matters anymore as you're just a common troll. Sorry guys who post on here. Had to bite... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 12 minutes ago, Mafiabob said: Think Shackell is the better at them balls than Bucko is... But get the sentiment of delivering long, worked for equaliser on Friday... Wished the long ball happened more often from Shacks, especially when pinned back cant remember Shackell putting a pass from the middle of defense onto a full backs or forwards chest 40 yards away at all this season, or in his last spell either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mafiabob said: Think Shackell is the better at them balls than Bucko is... But get the sentiment of delivering long, worked for equaliser on Friday... Wished the long ball happened more often from Shacks, especially when pinned back I couldn't agree with you less about the merits of Shackell's passing ability v Buxton's. Shackell is like a rabbit in headlights when he has the ball at his feet. He is a more than competent defender but looks nervous when he has a few seconds on the ball. I would go further and say that when he does have the ball at his feet he causes us problems by his inability to act quickly and sharply. His casually stroked balls to other players puts them under pressure. I would not expect him to lose his place to Buxton, but I do prefer Buxton's first reaction when he has the ball is to step forward and hit either a crisp ball short or a long ball with a high level of accuracy. Other than that, you are spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Just now, davenportram said: cant remember Shackell putting a pass from the middle of defense onto a full backs or forwards chest 40 yards away at all this season, or in his last spell either. Plenty of times out wide I've seen this season... (Please don't ask me when where etc) it's happened at least once a game... Not as much as I would like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Just now, bcnram said: I couldn't agree with you less about the merits of Shackell's passing ability v Buxton's. Shackell is like a rabbit in headlights when he has the ball at his feet. He is a more than competent defender but looks nervous when he has a few seconds on the ball. I would go further and say that when he does have the ball at his feet he causes us problems by his inability to act quickly and sharply. His casually stroked balls to other players puts them under pressure. I would not expect him to lose his place to Buxton, but I do prefer Buxton's first reaction when he has the ball is to step forward and hit either a crisp ball short or a long ball with a high level of accuracy. Other than that, you are spot on. id drop Keogh for Buxton. But I wouldn't complain too much if Bucko replaced Shackell either. If my theory is correct and having Buckos passing forced opposition to play deeper then we would be under less pressure at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 We've not been as prolific or as easy on the eye because the bridge between Martin & the rest has been too big. Often teams have their defenders on Martin and their midfielders between Martin and our midfield. He's too isolated. That's why dropping him would be pointless as whoever replaced him would remain isolated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 4 minutes ago, Mafiabob said: And the final ace in the pack... The victim card.... Just showing Dav why... As he asked the question why your threads go crazy with replies, I thought I would tag him in to my reply as to what I think happens.... Like I say, whenever anyone makes a different point to you, you reply with another question... Then after a while you'll sulk and think everyone's getting on your back when you people put their theories/opinions to you that don't chime.... Your reply to me I've just quoted has just proved that. No where I've said I want you banned... And I don't. I shan't much more with you on football matters anymore as you're just a common troll. Sorry guys who post on here. Had to bite... Your my No 1 mimesis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, bcnram said: I couldn't agree with you less about the merits of Shackell's passing ability v Buxton's. Shackell is like a rabbit in headlights when he has the ball at his feet. He is a more than competent defender but looks nervous when he has a few seconds on the ball. I would go further and say that when he does have the ball at his feet he causes us problems by his inability to act quickly and sharply. His casually stroked balls to other players puts them under pressure. I would not expect him to lose his place to Buxton, but I do prefer Buxton's first reaction when he has the ball is to step forward and hit either a crisp ball short or a long ball with a high level of accuracy. Other than that, you are spot on. Agree with the fact that he's slower to do it then Buxton. But I do think if Shackell instead of knocking sideways most of the time... Has that in his locker too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 23 minutes ago, curtains said: Explain please. Just a joke, chill your beans. Was just surprised that you need it explaining how our team has set up for the last 2 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicME85 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 14 minutes ago, davenportram said: cant remember Shackell putting a pass from the middle of defense onto a full backs or forwards chest 40 yards away at all this season, or in his last spell either. Shackell is not good enough to play those balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB BIGGS Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 23 minutes ago, Kernow said: We've not been as prolific or as easy on the eye because the bridge between Martin & the rest has been too big. Often teams have their defenders on Martin and their midfielders between Martin and our midfield. He's too isolated. That's why dropping him would be pointless as whoever replaced him would remain isolated. ....as we saw in the game against Birmingham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 23 minutes ago, davenportram said: id drop Keogh for Buxton. So you'd drop RCB for LCB to partner Shackell who also play in LCB? Wow!!!! Sorry you cannot play 2 LCB at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 9 minutes ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: So you'd drop RCB for LCB to partner Shackell who also play in LCB? Wow!!!! Sorry you cannot play 2 LCB at the same time. look back on time. Buxton had a good partnership with Shackell after Barker got injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 37 minutes ago, Kernow said: We've not been as prolific or as easy on the eye because the bridge between Martin & the rest has been too big. Often teams have their defenders on Martin and their midfielders between Martin and our midfield. He's too isolated. That's why dropping him would be pointless as whoever replaced him would remain isolated. which is why we need an extra dimension to force their defense and midfield deeper. Long passing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Clement frustrated me after the game on Friday, said something along the lines of not knowing what Thorne was doing in that position to score. No Paul, you should be praising him for having the tactical nous to know that that was a pretty safe time for him to make that run. And then you should tell Bradley Johnson to watch it back on repeat and learn how to do it himself. I desperately want Clement to succeed and he's done so many good things for this team but it's comments like that that set alarm bells ringing in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Why doesn't Martin try running at a defender, beating him then trying a shot....like most strikers do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
climbon Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, TimRam said: Why doesn't Martin try running at a defender, beating him then trying a shot....like most strikers do? Martin? Run? Sorry you've lost me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 It's quite simple, before Clement the ball would often be played directly to Martin from the back, he's didn't hold it up so much as find the clever round the corner ball, or a chest pass or header out to the flanks, where the wide forward would find himself with space to run into, building attacks quickly from that point. This season, we're rarely playing the same balls, and when we do there's no-one within 30 yds of him to lay it off to. I'm kinda persuaded by those who argue Clement's trying to move away from that formula, and we're signing players for the long term who don't necessarily fit right now, but it's not as good to watch, and it remains to be seen if it's more successful in the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicME85 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 See thats a problem, its not just that midfielders arent running passed Martin, he isnt playing in the right part of the pitch for the type of player he is. Watch any big powerful forward and they are further up the pitch laying it off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketteringram Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 2 hours ago, curtains said: We lost 3-1 ...... and you are telling me this because....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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