hector10 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Any youngster thrown in is bound to make the inevitable mistakes due to experience,the short term price you have to pay for the long term gain.So the big question is when do you throw him in? People talk of a promotion season and want a DM loan bringing in straight away,whilst others want this and to give Hanson occasional game time.The problem I have with this is that Eustace goes to the bench as cover,and Hanson gets blocked.For those who talk of a promotion season,what happens when we go up -do we then block his progress because it's a staying up season? I get a bit exasperated when everyone purrs about our Academy,but don't seem willing to take on board the visible 'pathway' that Clough often talked of.I want promotion as much as anyone,but if it were 'shelved' for the sake of bringing a promising youngster through (in the circumstances we now find ourselves in),I'd be happy.We're all different and some always want things instantly-for my part I've always warmed to a youngster of our own being brought through.After all,they're not of the bottle,they're the special ones.All good points. It has to be to be fair to say that an academy player has less chance of making progress to the first team now than under Clough for a few reasons: 1. We have a greater perceived chance of promotion so risks are less likely to be taken. 2. More money has been made available to SM and therefore squad deficiencies or injuries are more likely to be resolved by buying or loaning a player. 3. We have more clout in the loan market because of SM's reputation. It does make me wonder whether Hughes and Hendrick would have the opportunities and made the same progress under current circumstances. We'll never know. We were very lucky with injuries last year and let's hope we haven't used it all up. If we have, Hanson might get his chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Hanson has some skill no question.Can he handle playing quite often though and with some pressure on him? That remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Hanson has a great future IMO. Look forward to seeing him getting first team action this season. But Eustace will start the season I expect. http://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/article/eustace-competitive-edge-just-what-we-needed-1783046.aspx? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Done a bit back He's 19 in November 2 great free kick goals but he also has a lot more to his game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I think we have to throw handson in first game of the we can always take him off after hour as people been saying cautts avaiable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Terrible goalkeeping for both those free kicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 But does not mean he can not get them in for first team we have a missed a free kick taker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I'd throw him in against Rotherham, see how he copes with an admittedly lesser team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I'd throw him in against Rotherham, see how he copes with an admittedly lesser team. Oh god. Let's start with the underestimation and the "turn up and we will win every week" mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Oh god. Let's start with the underestimation and the "turn up and we will win every week" mentality. You're right. We have to take every team seriously. We're not going to go up if we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 You're right. We have to take every team seriously. We're not going to go up if we don't. Exactly. This is the absolute worst game we could get Rotherham. On a massive high, us practically on a low or with a hangover. This could really affect our atmosphere this season if people just turn up expecting to hammer teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Derby-Rotherham 5-0. Proper hammering. Less is not an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Exactly. This is the absolute worst game we could get Rotherham. On a massive high, us practically on a low or with a hangover. This could really affect our atmosphere this season if people just turn up expecting to hammer teams. Maybe, but it'd be even worse to have someone like Cardiff away first game. As long as we play at our best against Rotherham, we can beat them and prove we're not suffering from the so called "Playoff Hangover". The first 5 games are vital because we have to show that we're going to contend at the top of the league again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 It's interesting that Hanson has become a better player since Thorne got injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Derby-Rotherham 5-0. Proper hammering. Less is not an option. I doubt that we will hammer them tbh. Its going to be an interesting game. Pringle and Green presumably lining up in midfield for them. Agard up front possibly with Matt Derbyshire - one of Schteve's big signings for Forest. If we lack anything atm its a few goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 We will only find out if we give him a chance. Just like we did with Hughes, Bennett, Thorne (remember the debate about who to play against forest). Let him play against Rotherham and the Cup game and decide then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JW- Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 It's interesting that Hanson has become a better player since Thorne got injured. His improvement since Thursday has been staggering. Only a matter of time before he gets an England call up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I think we have to throw handson in first game of the we can always take him off after hour as people been saying cautts avaiable. Why would we start Hanson over Eustace??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Also all the talk of promoting Hanson to the first team, why not give Kwame Thomas a chance as a substitute? If he's good, he can replace Sammon as our impact striker off the bench, if he's not ready for the first team yet then we've not lost anything but we know he needs developing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Oh god. Let's start with the underestimation and the "turn up and we will win every week" mentality. You're right. We have to take every team seriously. We're not going to go up if we don't. ...relax a bit? I'd have said the exact same thing in 2011. There's no underestimation of Rotherham, there's never an easy game to have your debut in but putting him on for the last 30 minutes in our opening game of the season is one of the better times too. Low pressure game, comparatively. Also, he'll be up against Paul Green at CM. It was more of a suggestion for what would be best for assessing Hanson in a reasonably fair envvironment than a dismissal of Rotherham, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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