Smyth_18 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Could say that rustylee but this is a discussion board. where you do things like discuss Derby County. would be a very boring place if everybody just says its down to management/ owners/ players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinzy9 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I'd take safe mid-table next season... Anyone got Clough's number?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I'd take safe mid-table next season... Hmm, you seem to have lost your way. Allow me to redirect you appropriately.....http://www.forestforum.co.uk You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 We actually have a squad of over 20 players under contract. Bolder players is where we need to replace to be on a par with this season squad (but bear in mind how many we're regular starters) DERBY COUNTY SQUAD 2014 - 15 Keepers Keele Roos................2016 Mats Morch...............????? (signed first pro contract 2012-13 season) Lee Grant...................2016 Full Backs Craig Forsyth...............2016 Kieron Freeman..........2016 Wisdom Centre Halves Jake Buxton ......2015 + 1 year Shaun Barker ......2015 Mark O'brien........2015 Tom Naylor...........2015 Richard Keogh......2015 Whitbread Midfield Jamie Ward ........2014 + 1 year Craig Bryson.......2016 Jeff Hendrick........2015 Will Hughes ........2016 Paul Coutts...........2015 Simon Dawkins ........2016 Thorne Strikers Mason Bennett.....2016 Conor Sammon .....2016 Chris Martin.......2015 +1 year Johnny Russell.....2017 Bamford So we need to replace 2 first choice regular in Wisdom and Thorne one cover centre half One cover striker One DM in Eustace At least 5 players unless you count OB as the CB then it's four Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 We need 8 signings at least RB CB (Barker Replacement) CB (Cover) LB (Cover) Thorne LW- Young winger with the talent and pace to challenge Russell (for strength in depth too) LW 10-15 goals a season ST to challenge martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Naylor, Freeman, Barker, Ward, Sammon all going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ram Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I'd take 4th bottom if forest go down..... how bout we win the league with over 100 poins and forest go down with 10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Hmm, you seem to have lost your way. Allow me to redirect you appropriately.....http://www.forestforum.co.uk You're welcome. Sorry, my bad. Never realized it does matter which end of Brian Clough way you're going... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Naylor, Freeman, Barker, Ward, Sammon all going. Really what source? Even if they do that's only 1 regular first team player and a sub (the Naykor I've listed is Tom, not Lee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 No sources, it's speculation but I'd argue most of us see it happening. Naylor won't play a starting game under mcclaren, Barkers sadly had it, Freeman will be most likely loan out of sold to Sheffield United. Sammon is excess wages for a potentially great young striker, and I can see ward going. It's all conjecture, but I see it happening. We need efficiently and these guys are driftwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 We need 8 signings at least RB CB (Barker Replacement) CB (Cover) LB (Cover) Thorne LW- Young winger with the talent and pace to challenge Russell (for strength in depth too) LW 10-15 goals a season ST to challenge martin Barker -We need to replace a player that hasn't played all season? CB cover - OB is back from injury and Tom Naylor could improve from coaching by Mac LB cover I Agree RB I agree Thorne -good call LW - nope Ward Dawkins and Russell and Coutts fighting it out for the wide spots LW10-15 goals per season - Russell and Ward more than covers that between them. ST to challenge Martin - I agree I make that 4 signings not 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Barker -We need to replace a player that hasn't played all season? CB cover - OB is back from injury and Tom Naylor could improve from coaching by Mac LB cover I Agree RB I agree Thorne -good call LW - nope Ward Dawkins and Russell and Coutts fighting it out for the wide spots LW10-15 goals per season - Russell and Ward more than covers that between them. ST to challenge Martin - I agree I make that 4 signings not 8 Good argument but that would leave us with a pretty thin squad, never know when injuries will hit, I'd argue it's always better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. I've always thought strength in depth is a good thing in moderation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I'd be surprised if we signed two CBs. Probably sign Whitbread as cover on the basis that we'll be playing Keogh and Buxton again, with OB and Barker (if he comes back) as additional cover. Don't know how close Max Lowe is to making a breakthrough into the first team squad but on the basis of Forsyth hardly missing a game I'd be happy to use him as cover if possible. RB - depends on Freeman. If Freeman's part of our plans then it would be as cover at RB. On that basis we need a first team RB, and then possibly cover dependent on Freeman. In midfield - all depends on Thorne. If we get him then it will come down to whether or not we'll want to retain Eustace as cover. If not, then we'll need another DM. If we keep Eustace and get Thorne then we don't need another DM. If we don't get Thorne, then it depends on whether we think Eustace is good enough for the first XI. We'd also need to find cover in that scenario. Personally, I'm happy to keep Eustace, but only as cover. Thorne's emergence has highlighted what we lack with Eustace. As for the rest of the midfield - depends on who comes and who goes. Best case scenario - we retain Bryson, Hendrick and Hughes, in which case no central midfielders needed. If we lose any then I'd be looking at direct replacements. Out wide - happy to retain Ward. We'll have Dawkins and Russell, and will be welcoming Coutts back. Happy enough with that. Up front - keep Martin (at all costs!) and add cover. Best case scenario - we need a RB and cover for Martin. We got lucky with injuries this year, if we had more next season then I'd look to use shrewd loans to plug any short-term gaps. Doesn't need wholesale change - providing we can retain our best players, and somehow get Thorne, either perm or loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil62uk Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 hopefully get Thorne , Wisdom back with 3 other additions ( 1 being an old head eg of Paul McGarth . Dave McKay calibre hard to find I know ... get rid of deadwood ..and just hope to get the momentum back that carried us on to the play offs ..not to much to ask for in reality ...but can see us having play off blues and finishing around 9th to 13th ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Don't think we were that lucky with injuries Coutts Bryson Ward OB Hughes Dawkins All had lay offs this season, just not too many at the same time. I'd say this was a normal season injury wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Naylor, Freeman, Barker, Ward, Sammon all going. I reckon Ward will stick around but I can imagine you're right in regards to the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Don't think we were that lucky with injuries Coutts Bryson Ward OB Hughes Dawkins All had lay offs this season, just not too many at the same time. I'd say this was a normal season injury wise. Russell too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 keogh, jeff. (?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 We don't need 9 players. We need about 5. Striker, Winger, Holding Midfielder, Center Back, Right Back. All of these outgoing players barring the loans were not involved last season. Stop this nonsense of suggesting we need so many players. I expect a few of our home grown players to be making a step up, including Mason and Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 Yes. A lot of players are departing, but the vast majoirty had no impact on the squad - they don't need replacing... CB (Whitbread) RB Full back cover CM (Thorne?) Cover for Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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