North_Stand_Ram Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Just realised how big the overhaul at the club will be this summer.... Players who have already left - Ball, Atkins, Hoganson, Gjokaj and O'Connor Loanees who have returned to parent clubs - Thorne, Whitbread (free agent), Bamford and Wisdom Probable players who will be released - Bailey, Legzdins, Davies and Lee Naylor Players who I assume we will try to sell - Tom Naylor and Sammon.. Possibly Barker and Freeman? Can see Freeman joining Sheff U. Assuming that we take up the contract extension on Ward and give Eustace a new 1 year contest, our squad will only consist of 17 players... Grant Roos Morch Keogh O'Brien Buxton Forsyth Coutts Hughes Bryson Hendrick Eustace Dawkins Russell Ward Martin Bennett It really did surprise me. I didn't realise how bare bones our squad was after these players depart. Obviously this is only guess work, Eustace may be released, we may struggle to find a club willing to afford Sammons wages - even with a low fee, Barker may regain fitness, a side may bid for O'Brien or we may decide to keep Freeman as cover.. It also doesn't take into account potential youth players either, who may step up next season e.g Lowe and Thomas Even with guesses, our squad is looking very thin, even if the players who are departing have not had a massive impact of our squad It can only make you assume that incomings will be high this summer. Based on my assumptions (obviously may be wrong, and others may have variety of different opinions), I would assume we need players in these positions: Right back Full back cover Centre half cover (Whitbread?) Defensive midfielder (Thorne?) Central striker to cover Martin It's going to be a very interesting summer to say the least. Let's see what McClaren and Evans's targets are. One thing for sure, it's certainly going to be McClaren's squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 good post - it's something i alluded to in another thread. i assume much of the 'planning' has been done. notice how quick it is happening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsRam Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Just like when Schteve took over really. We aint 'closed' bank holiday.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Doesn't look so much like a breeze to promotion without Thorne, Wisdom and Bamford in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Doesn't look so much like a breeze to promotion without Thorne, Wisdom and Bamford in it. can we assume that SM has lined up alternatives? (or will any of them return?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I thought Eustace was retiring to take up a coaching role at Watford at the end of this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Doesn't look so much like a breeze to promotion without Thorne, Wisdom and Bamford in it. indeed - but perhaps the key is keeping the top performers who actually belong to us and then adding some more permanent signings. (i've never really been that struck on loans but they've been largely effective this season.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Whitbread will sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 I thought Eustace was retiring to take up a coaching role at Watford at the end of this season? Hasn't been much indication of retiring.. But if we don't offer him a contract I can certainly see a coach and possibly a player coach role being offered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I reckon we'll bring in 4 or 5 loans again. Hopefully Thorne is a permanent deal and not a loan (if we do get him back), He's only been in the first team 2 or 3 months so after a whole season in it I could see some Prem teams taking notice and going for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 GrantRoos MorchLoan RB Freeman KeoghBuxton Whitbread New CBForsyth Lowe Coutts HughesBrysonHendrickThorne DikgacoiDawkins RussellWardMartinBennett Eagles Macheda What I'd try to achieve in the summer. That would include making 5 free signings, a loan RB, probably paying out most our play-off cash for Thorne and a new CB. But I have absolutely zero knowledge of foreign leagues, so it'll be entirely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagerbob Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Personally cant see Sammon or Naylor going. Why would they? You need some competition / backup for places Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 I reckon we'll bring in 4 or 5 loans again. Hopefully Thorne is a permanent deal and not a loan (if we do get him back), He's only been in the first team 2 or 3 months so after a whole season in it I could see some Prem teams taking notice and going for him Can't see 5 loans. I can see 2 or 3 but I think McClaren will try for permo signings. Just a thought mind, it worked massively this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaphaRam Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 GrantRoos MorchLoan RB FreemanKeoghBuxtonWhitbreadNew CBForsythLoweCouttsHughesBrysonHendrickThorneDikgacoiDawkins RussellWardMartinBennettEaglesMacheda What I'd try to achieve in the summer. That would include making 5 free signings, a loan RB, probably paying out most our play-off cash for Thorne and a new CB. But I have absolutely zero knowledge of foreign leagues, so it'll be entirely different. Think Macheda is going to Cardiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I also think that we shouldn't be spending any real money on a player who's going to be back-up. For example, suggesting Parr as back up is ludicrous. Just because he's available on a free doesn't mean that we should be paying out PL wages to sit on the bench. If you were to play him at RB, that'd be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Can't see 5 loans. I can see 2 or 3 but I think McClaren will try for permo signings. Just a thought mind, it worked massively this season Bring in more youngsters who can have an impact in the Championship. If we go up these youngsters might not be ready/good enough for the Prem so we can sign better players. If we sign them on permanents they're likely to get promotion wage rises and bonuses and then just sit on the bench/reserves taking up wages that could be used on better players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 Personally cant see Sammon or Naylor going. Why would they? You need some competition / backup for places Naylor hasn't even been mentioned since he was loaned out. Has done well in league 2 apparently so I can certainly see a permanent transfer Sammon is tricky. It wouldn't be a disaster if he stayed as he is an ok impact player but he isn't worth the £15k a week, no chance. I'd try and flog him, but it remains to be seen if someone is willing to take him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Don't see Whitbread returning, wasn't a McClaren signing and don't see him wanting another season on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suffolkram80 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Macheda has to be worth pursuing now he's free agent although think Cardiff are sniffing around. Seemed to score plenty whilst on loan at Brum with a few coming off the bench. Tavernier looked good at RB for Rotherham (on loan from Newcastle) but not sure of his contract situation. Would be good replacements for Bamford and Wisdom and both being 22 would have room for development under Schteve. I'd rather see us go down this root rather than pick up old prem has beens with no room for improvement or potential re sale value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 Bring in more youngsters who can have an impact in the Championship. If we go up these youngsters might not be ready/good enough for the Prem so we can sign better players. If we sign them on permanents they're likely to get promotion wage rises and bonuses and then just sit on the bench/reserves taking up wages that could be used on better players Agreed. But not all the nippers will be successful.. I agree that loans are important to us (and clearly McClaren), but I would prefer us to also sign some proven players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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