Boycie Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 You alright Stevie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 This negative attitude towards Jamie Ward being ineffective is really starting to annoy me. Jamie Ward should be playing every week. Competition is good but he is the go to man to create something. He had a great game vs Brighton. Two or three runs in the first half, one nearly ended goal from in a curling shot at the far post. He had a volley goalward bound blocked. People have criticised his set pieces and rightly so but Bryson was taking the majority. Not to mention where did the goal come from? oh yeah Jamie wards mazy run and then being fouled before it was on a plate for Bamford! Ward has took a lot of flak but you cannot drop him after a decent performance vs Brighton. And too say he was ineffective well I personally think that is very unfair. Rant over. Oh yeah he can't defend and won't and has a bad temper/attitude but he has been a very big part of our good play since Mclaren's arrival. Really? Is, or was over the last few seasons? When was the last time he created a goal? He didn't create on Saturday he got dispossessed and luckily Bamford was in the right place to put the ball away from 20 yards...would hardly call that a created chance personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 And he certainly didn't "lay it on a plate" for bamford..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 And he certainly didn't "lay it on a plate" for bamford..! Bloody long, curly plate if he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Really? Is, or was over the last few seasons? When was the last time he created a goal? He didn't create on Saturday he got dispossessed and luckily Bamford was in the right place to put the ball away from 20 yards...would hardly call that a created chance personally. Ward got fouled not dispossessed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 This negative attitude towards Jamie Ward being ineffective is really starting to annoy me. Jamie Ward should be playing every week. Competition is good but he is the go to man to create something. He had a great game vs Brighton. Two or three runs in the first half, one nearly ended goal from in a curling shot at the far post. He had a volley goalward bound blocked. People have criticised his set pieces and rightly so but Bryson was taking the majority. Not to mention where did the goal come from? oh yeah Jamie wards mazy run and then being fouled before it was on a plate for Bamford! Ward has took a lot of flak but you cannot drop him after a decent performance vs Brighton. And too say he was ineffective well I personally think that is very unfair. Rant over. Oh yeah he can't defend and won't and has a bad temper/attitude but he has been a very big part of our good play since Mclaren's arrival. Saying that Ward IS effective cos he has some selfish runs and nearly scores is like saying I'm a stud who pulls supermodels, after I once said hello to one and she walked away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Ward got fouled not dispossessed? and it's a fooking good job Bamford scored! Cos we all know what would've happened with the freekick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Ward got fouled not dispossessed? Always likely to happen when running down a blind alley towards 2 or 3 defenders...although I will not criticise players for trying to make things happen, he just needs to be more aware of what is happening around him sometimes. So back to the goals he has created or even chances he has created recently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Always likely to happen when running down a blind alley towards 2 or 3 defenders...although I will not criticise players for trying to make things happen, he just needs to be more aware of what is happening around him sometimes. So back to the goals he has created or even chances he has created recently... You are correct. He hasn't created many chances recently but we did play Leicester Chelsea and Wigan. I would argue none of the players did really. Bryson Martin Dawkins Hughes and Ward off the top of my head did very little in those three games. I agree with you he has been poor but I don't think it's fair to pin it all on Ward when every other attacking player has been poor too. Ward had a great spell to begin with under McClaren. He looked good vs Chartlon and then Doncaster. His formed then dropped but so did the entire team. I think like the rest of the team his form will begin to rise again after that good performance vs Brighton. I don't think it would be fair to drop Ward and Dawkins for Blackburn unless he is changing formation and starting with Martin and Bamford then I am open to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I think bennet due a start he has done well since he has come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko1983 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Ward had a good game against Brighton so i think he should start, along with Russell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.Roberts (GR3) Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 This negative attitude towards Jamie Ward being ineffective is really starting to annoy me. Jamie Ward should be playing every week. Competition is good but he is the go to man to create something. He had a great game vs Brighton. Two or three runs in the first half, one nearly ended goal from in a curling shot at the far post. He had a volley goalward bound blocked. People have criticised his set pieces and rightly so but Bryson was taking the majority. Not to mention where did the goal come from? oh yeah Jamie wards mazy run and then being fouled before it was on a plate for Bamford! Ward has took a lot of flak but you cannot drop him after a decent performance vs Brighton. And too say he was ineffective well I personally think that is very unfair. Rant over. Oh yeah he can't defend and won't and has a bad temper/attitude but he has been a very big part of our good play since Mclaren's arrival. surprised he can run with your head half way into his colon, he has been so ineffective of late. he just doesnt seem to want to run half the time and then can be too greedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maydrakin Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Am I the only one who thought Bamford left a lot to be desired from a defensive perspective? Playing him against Blackburn would be a huge risk for me, as it leaves the fullback position exposed. His ability to track a runner was non-existant. He looks like a striker than a winger to me. Looked good and composed when on the ball though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 My starting XI against Blackburn would be: Grant Wisdom Keogh Buxton Forsyth Eustace Hughes Bryson Bamford Russell Martin I would leave Dawkins and Ward out because they've seemed lightweight and ineffective in the last few games. Russell has more explosive pace so will cause havoc in the Blackburn defence (hopefully ). Bamford deserves a start after his goal also. Dawkins + Ward can then be used as impact subs. Is that a Rorschach test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Am I the only one who thought Bamford left a lot to be desired from a defensive perspective? Playing him against Blackburn would be a huge risk for me, as it leaves the fullback position exposed. His ability to track a runner was non-existant. He looks like a striker than a winger to me. Looked good and composed when on the ball though. You're probably right, but here we go again with this myth that a player's secondary role is more important than his primary role. If Bamford scores the winner in EVERY game, but doesn't put a tackle in or defend, he is actually better than a forward player who runs around, gets tackles in and has no effect on the scoreboard, as he is effective in his primary job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 You're probably right, but here we go again with this myth that a player's secondary role is more important than his primary role. If Bamford scores the winner in EVERY game, but doesn't put a tackle in or defend, he is actually better than a forward player who runs around, gets tackles in and has no effect on the scoreboard, as he is effective in his primary job. But equally, if he isn't tracking back, and that contributes to us conceding a goal, then both jobs become equally relevant. Got to get that balance right, especially when in this formation it leaves our fullbacks horrifically exposed. That worries me, especially with Forsyth.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 But equally, if he isn't tracking back, and that contributes to us conceding a goal, then both jobs become equally relevant. Got to get that balance right, especially when in this formation it leaves our fullbacks horrifically exposed. That worries me, especially with Forsyth.. I'm yet to see a goal conceded that was because a forward didn't track back, in spite of that bloke from Poland (or wherever he came from!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Okay, picture this - a defending full back, with no help from the winger, is up against an attacking winger, with the attacking full back, on the overlap takes it past the defender, puts in a cross which is converted. You've never seen a goal scored in this way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcfc111 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 The major problem with Jamie Ward (besides his inability over the dead ball) is when he has a one on one situation against a full back he has not got the ability to pass them. Especially if it's from the stationary position. There just is not a trick in the locker. Occasionally he goes passed a player when running at speed. At least I feel Dawkins will beat his man more often than not...... Does anyone know if Derby practise corners in training at all??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 The major problem with Jamie Ward (besides his inability over the dead ball) is when he has a one on one situation against a full back he has not got the ability to pass them. Especially if it's from the stationary position. There just is not a trick in the locker. Occasionally he goes passed a player when running at speed. At least I feel Dawkins will beat his man more often than not......Does anyone know if Derby practise corners in training at all??? Only before we play Leeds or Forest. Ask Jake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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