AndyinLiverpool Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Someone with premier league and European experience, who can play in the centre or at right back. Not sure why there's so much negativity here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 If that wasn't a horror display, i'd hate to see what you classed as one. Penalties, own goals, sending offs, ***** backpasses to opposition strikers - for it to be a 'horror performance' I'd say that it needs to be capped off by one of those. Otherwise it's just a very poor performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoneedshuls Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Feeling a bit sorry for freeman here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezner Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 For the season apparently Liverpool defender Andre Wisdom is set to join Derby on loan for the remainder of the season, Press Association Sport understands. Steve McClaren has wanted to bring in a new defender since becoming head coach at the Sky Bet Championship club at the beginning of this month and the former England manager made an approach for the versatile Wisdom, who can play at both right-back and centre-half, over the weekend McClaren made his move after seeing Zak Whitbread, on loan from Leicester, suffer a calf strain during the first half of the Rams' 3-2 league win at Watford on Saturday. Despite initially forcing his way into Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers' team, Wisdom has seen his first-team opportunities at Anfield limited this season. The summer acquisitions of Aly Cissokho, Mamadou Sakho, Kolo Toure and Tiago Ilori have pushed him down the pecking order. The England Under-21 international has made a total of 22 appearances for the Reds but during the current campaign has played only two Barclays Premier League games, including a solitary start at Swansea, and a Capital One Cup outing. Wisdom, 20, joined Liverpool's youth set up from Bradford in 2008. Meanwhile, Derby also thought to be interested in West Brom midfielder George Thorne. The Rams have limited options in midfield with Paul Coutts, Jeff Hendrick and James Bailey all out with medium to long-term injuries while Thorne, 20, is available for loan in order to boost his fitness following a lengthy absence with a knee problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Penalties, own goals, sending offs, ***** backpasses to opposition strikers - for it to be a 'horror performance' I'd say that it needs to be capped off by one of those. Otherwise it's just a very poor performance Yeah, his passing was sloppy and he often gave away possesion but Keogh often did the same, booting the ball upfield to no-one. Forysth didn't have his greatest game but that tackle was a 'game changer' and redeemed him a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abertawe_ram Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Feeling a bit sorry for freeman here It might be that Wisdom is coming in to challenge at cb rather rb (I hope so at least). I agree though that Freeman desserves more first team chances, thought he did very well at the start of the season. Especially his cross for Chris Martin at Brighton, that made me sex wee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I have never been a big believer in loans, they are so hit and miss, and I would say we have had more bad than good. If we get Thorne as well, and he and Wisdom show the same commitment and ability as Leon Osman, then I will be one happy bunny . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Feeling a bit sorry for freeman here Don't be. This is Derby - we are collectively so stupid that we need a scapegoat - someone we can all point and grunt at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkoRam Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Penalties, own goals, sending offs, ***** backpasses to opposition strikers - for it to be a 'horror performance' I'd say that it needs to be capped off by one of those. Otherwise it's just a very poor performance Did you not see his horror back pass in the 2nd half that nearly cost us? Great tackle 2nd half though so evens itself out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkoRam Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Don't be. This is Derby - we are collectively so stupid that we need a scapegoat - someone we can all point and grunt at. I thought that position had been filled by Forsyth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Don't be. This is Derby - we are collectively so stupid that we need a scapegoat - someone we can all point and grunt at. I will maybe get to know how Kieron feels about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Did you not see his horror back pass in the 2nd half that nearly cost us? Great tackle 2nd half though so evens itself out Not yet, no. I've only seen the highlights. I was just putting forward my case for horror performance rather than talking about Forsyth - if he that then he's certainly pushed the criteria. I'd hate to think what dramatic term someone would come up with for when a player gives away a penalty, scores an own goal AND gets sent off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkoRam Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Not yet, no. I've only seen the highlights. I was just putting forward my case for horror performance rather than talking about Forsyth - if he that then he's certainly pushed the criteria. I'd hate to think what dramatic term someone would come up with for when a player gives away a penalty, scores an own goal AND gets sent off. "All round shocker"? He didn't have a great game but that tackle probably saved us from conceding a goal. Prior to that he did little wrong. After that though, poor passing, left their guy on the right with too much space, dodgy back pass and looked unsteady and panicked. To be fair I think it's mainly a confidence thing. Think he's suffering from nerves due to a poor start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Penalties, own goals, sending offs, ***** backpasses to opposition strikers - for it to be a 'horror performance' I'd say that it needs to be capped off by one of those. Otherwise it's just a very poor performance See Jonathan Woodgate's debut for Real madrid, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky1884 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Just been on TALK sport End of season loan. Need to do something at the back we've leyt in 20, hope he's good. My mate ( a Liverpool fan) watchies the U21 games and stuff on Liverpool TV and says he's the best of their young players just needs games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I thought that position had been filled by Forsyth? It's still Durban in my books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 It's still Durban in my books. We saw how good Durban was when Hector arrived, and he finally had someone good enough to play with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrivateDerby Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I prefer Freeman to Smith to be honest, Smith seems to be better at taking players on though. Maybe this is the start of a two way academy/young player relationship with Liverpool? Be good if it was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Ayala was the next good thing to come out of Liverpool wasn't he? Nice club by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Wisdom sounds OK but would rather someone who is longer in the tooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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