blackNwhites Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 so one striker for work rate, one for link up play. Sounds like a good goalscoring season next year :/ I'm assuming we'll sign a new player to play as a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott129 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I really like Martin to be honest. You can tell he has a footballing brain and his touch and technique, at times, is exquisite. People moan about his goalscoring record but, technically, he's scored 4 goals in 12 games. He was very unlucky to have two ruled out incorrectly (some strikers don't have that many disallowed goals in a full season!). I'm going to make a bold prediction now and say, if he gets a bit fitter during the off-season, he's going to finish next season with a goal tally of roughly 12, with maybe 8 or so assists. That will be a great return for a supporting striker that we got on a free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSheep Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I'm assuming we'll sign a new player to play as a striker.so what formation would you play? As you'll have to drop a player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abertawe_ram Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 so one striker for work rate, one for link up play. Sounds like a good goalscoring season next year :/ I don't think having a striker with good work rate and a striker with good link up play is bad so long as we sign an out-and-out "finisher" as well, a "goal-hanger" who will be in the right place to just put chances away (a more consistent theo, you could say). Then we could rotate between sammon and martin depending on which of their attributes are more needed at the time, someone to drop off and link or someone to run the channels and harass defenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSheep Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I don't think having a striker with good work rate and a striker with good link up play is bad so long as we sign an out-and-out "finisher" as well, a "goal-hanger" who will be in the right place to just put chances away (a more consistent theo, you could say). Then we could rotate between sammon and martin depending on which of their attributes are more needed at the time, someone to drop off and link or someone to run the channels and harass defendersI doubt sammon or martin will want to sit on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I think nigel prefers martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 so what formation would you play? As you'll have to drop a player? 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-1-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abertawe_ram Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I doubt sammon or martin will want to sit on the bench. That's true and they shouldn't want to be on the bench but I think most successful teams need options to be able rotate, especially up front. No player should be guaranteed a first team place for the entire season, they should have to work ahead of others to get in. This is all just my personal opinion of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I doubt sammon or martin will want to sit on the bench. Sammon has shown that he can be useful as a sub. Bit expensive, but handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxram Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Ive not managed to go to a game since Bristol due to work so he may have stopped but my biggest problem with martin was that he battled for space with his hands, often penalised for pushing and for me turning an attack into a defensive free kick for pushing off the ball is far more frustrating than any of Sammon's misses. When I can't go to the game I like to listen to the opposition's radio commentary to hear the their view on us and the game against Blackburn had a moment where nobody knew what had happened. Jamie Ward was attacking down the wing and the ref awarded a free kick to Blackburn, Chris martin penalised for pushing off the ball... They used that phrase so many times! I actually find the apparent laziness less annoying than the pushing, its such a petty free kick to concede. But If we sign him as it looks we will, he has my full support pushing or no pushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Agree with the guy above - gives away way to many fks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randombc Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-1-1 Can see it being more: ----------------------------Grant------------------------ Brayford-------Keogh--------Baptiste--------Forsyth Coutts----------Hendrick-------Hughes--------Ward ----------------Sammon---------Vaughan-------------- Bench No.2 Goalkeeper Freeman B.Davies Martin Bennett Buxton Jacobs That's is if we actually do manage to get Baptiste.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stedcfc Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Can see it being more: ----------------------------Grant------------------------ Brayford-------Keogh--------Baptiste--------Forsyth Coutts----------Hendrick-------Hughes--------Ward ----------------Sammon---------Vaughan-------------- Bench No.2 Goalkeeper Freeman B.Davies Martin Bennett Buxton Jacobs That's is if we actually do manage to get Baptiste.... Bryson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I think Brayford is all but gone. Can see Bryson leaving to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 ----------------------------Grant------------------------ Brayford-------Keogh--------Baptiste--------Forsyth New RM----------Hendrick-------Hughes--------Ward ---\/rm---------------------Martin-----------------------\/lm- --------------------------New ST------------------------ Bench No.2 Goalkeeper Freeman Buxton Bryson B.Davies/Jacobs Bennett Sammon Vrm and Vlm meaning the RM and LM push forwards to form the 4-2-3-1. Having said all that though, we'll still need more signings to really strengthen the squad. I was having a discussion with my Forest supporting pal. He thinks their players are better, I just think they have a bigger squad of potentially first XI players and their first XI is no stronger than ours. Their squad is though, which is what I think has ultimately let us down this season. Not enough ready made, quality options on the bench to change things when it's not going to plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Grant Freeman/Baptiste Baptiste/Barker Keogh Forsyth Coutts/new winger Hendrick Hughes Ward Sammon Vaughan Subs/reserves Morch Hoganson Buxton OB Davies New winger/coutts (depends on quality of new winger) Martin Jacobs Bennett Hanson Doyle Lowe Lelan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezram Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Grant Brayford - Baptiste - Keogh - Forsyth Hendrick Bryson Hughes Vaughan Ward Sammon Subs Morch Buxton Freeman Coutts Jacobs Martin Bennett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Eddie, how many more goals have we conceded this season? The BD team was clinical and won games, this team doesn't often enough. Sammon will be a Fist choice starting player next season, so I only hope the second striker is someone clinical, and can grab 20 a season. Martin on the bench is not a good option, I never think he looks like scoring. Did he even get a shot in against Millwall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Eddie, how many more goals have we conceded this season? The BD team was clinical and won games, this team doesn't often enough. Sammon will be a Fist choice starting player next season, so I only hope the second striker is someone clinical, and can grab 20 a season. Martin on the bench is not a good option, I never think he looks like scoring. Did he even get a shot in against Millwall? That's precisely the point I was making. 16 more compared to the BD season with the biggest difference being away from home - 13 more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randombc Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Bryson? He'll be gone, refusing to sign a new contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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