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4 hours ago, TuffLuff said:

A slightly interesting one this morning from Mr Maguire. I have no idea whether it’s got good or bad implications, and it’s seemingly what some Prem clubs do. It’s interesting I guess because it’s similar to what we did and no matter where they end up next year, there’s still £100 million loan to pay.

they seem to think it's a mortgage for the stadium redevelopment they just got approved

i would like to think they are using it to sign players though

1 hour ago, LERam said:

Who has bags of talent, succeeded elsewhere but didn't in the prem? And the reasoning down to not being physical enough? 

Surely if you have undeniable talent, physicality can be trained?

i am not going to stick up for roy hodgson

but he is right in the comment that he didnt have the physicality for the prem at that time, that is why he went austria and no other prem team took a gamble on him straight away. i am sure plenty would have been watching him.

i dont think anybody saw him becoming the striker he has become when he was at molde. but then he grew into a physical monster. look at his goal records as a player both internationally and nationally, he really exploded as a player when he had the growth spurt in 2018/19

1 hour ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

being fair to roy he was probably right at that time

haaland was a small striker up until he had a freakish growth spurt. that is probably why he is so well rounded as a player because he played like an agile forward.

he is only a few cm's taller than solskjaer here when he played for molde 

1 hour ago, DesertRam said:

Just read that Louie Sibley has passed his driving test, its easy to forget how young some of these players are

when you are watching them week in and out for years. 

Makes you realize just how well they have progressed into the first team!

Congrats,  keep up the good work 

 

sibley is still a baby in football terms but is massively experienced for his age now. 

it will serve him well long term, it is why the make or break comment on this thread are quite silly really. he could linger for another 5 years and still have time on his side.

i think this will be our biggest test yet but so far we have been pretty good at home, i would expect it to continue

1-0 win

is it just me that really doesnt rate wilder? 

he rode the momentum at sheff utd with some good players and with a good spirit. once the momentum went he couldnt address the slump and has started the same at boro.

feels like he only has a very confrontational way of managing and it doesnt work with 90% of footballers.

it is hard to guess how dyche will do at another club because was he hamstrung by burnleys players or does he not have another way of playing. 

be interesting to see in his next job, i was hoping he would get the bournemouth job before the weekend but not looking likely

3 hours ago, mrdave85 said:

I don’t understand the hub-bun around the number of touches per game he gets? 

If we signed a striker who banged in the number of goals Haaland is going to I don’t care if the only time he touches the ball is putting it in the back of the net. 
 

 

yep see if guardiola cares about that 

he probably told him to stay inbetween the posts and dont come for the ball deep, he knows the city players will find him even with 2 yards of space. he is as scary off the ball as he is on it.

i havent ever seen a striker as scary as him

there has always been strikers you fear but you feel like you could stop them. how do you stop him? he is quicker both physically and mentally than everybody and he has only just turned 22. 

as srg says the only thing that will stop him is injuries

32 minutes ago, IslandExile said:

Please let's close this thread.

Who gives a monkey about Forest?

Just lump any comments about the red jokers in with the Premier League chat.

all well and good us laughing at them but we could only dream to be in their position

there has hardly been a sniff of any outgoings, which is both suprising and good news.

10 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

More concerned about outgoings.  Can see us losing a Knight or Sibley late on and a striker or right back of a 'certain value' being part of a deal .  We can't spend money but can probably do this if an offers good enough.  Be some old fart with 10 goals left in them whose 'averaged 20 goals a season over his career' but just 20 in the last 4 years.  You know it's coming. 

Has there been any proper rumours about outgoings? I haven’t seen anything concrete

I am not sure I want anyone “back”

let’s create a new era with younger hungry players. 

2 hours ago, PistoldPete said:

Yeah I think Henderson will save Forest from a disaster. They could still go down though. 

unfortunately I see Henderson keeping them up. They dominated spurs over large periods today, I thought they would look much worse than they do

it's starting to become apparent that rooney actually did very little last season except be a front man.

that was the sort of game and comeback we saw lots last season.

Big test today as we will see where we are, could be in the playoffs or mid table by the end of the day not that it matters this early but could do with a win today especially at home

34 minutes ago, Duracell said:

No team has an average of 20 shots and an average of 0 goals over a season. Not in the history of football. I'd challenge any team to find one.

It is impossible for this to continue. One of two things will happen; 1.) the chances will dry up completely or 2.) we start putting them away.

At present, short of putting on his boots and finding the net himself, I'm not sure what Liam Rosenior can do other than convince his players the goals will come. Some saying it's a psychological issue but personally I'm skeptical that Collins is missing the goal due to some unresolved childhood trauma. 

If the first scenario does happen, it's a coaching issue and then it would be time to look elsewhere. 

There's lots of reasons to be optimistic that number 2 will happen. Those saying "it's the same story as last season" is only true in the fact we're not scoring goals. Last season, we only really scored and looked competitive against footballing sides with a high-press, where we'd create very high quality chances and would see clinical finishing. This season, we're also able to create chances against sides with a low block, but we can't hit a barn door with a banjo. 

Let's not forget, we're out of administration, but we're still a club laden with debt. Keeping CKR or signing another striker is one obvious solution to what's happening. You cannot blame Rosenior for that.

we havent scored goals for a long time now it isnt just the way LR is setting us up

17 minutes ago, TomTom92 said:

People who say good things come to those who wait. I say Bielsa and Cooper. If a managers the right fit he can get a load of donkeys to win matches.

you are right when you get the right fit you know instantly

but LR has a difficult job on. this league was never going to be easy. i have no problem being patient with him, like it or not promotion was always going to be a tough ask first year especially automatic

Fleetwood 0-1 derby 
 

cashin

2 hours ago, nottingram said:

If they go down they will have sacked Cooper and the new team they’ve spent £150m on will have proved themselves not good enough for the Prem and be unshiftable for anything like what they’ve paid.

Like it or not the squad will also walk the championship

people laugh at Fulham but they’re spending spree allowed them to bounce back with ease twice. normally if you spend so much you don’t tend to go back down and linger.

29 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said:

Not sure about all of the comments about insanity and insane decision making.....worst case for them if they get relegated then they'll get about 150 million just for parachute payments, they'll have the best squad in the Championship by a country mile and huge earners like Lingard will be off their books anyway 

it is a bit grim just watching them. unless they have a financial collapse they have set themself up for a long time unfortunately.

wolves had had their pants down with gibbs white but he is still a very good player.

6 hours ago, Mr Tibbs said:

Got to be beating teams like Fleetwood. 

Draw away win at home

17 minutes ago, BramcoteRam84 said:

Welcome to League 1 Derby County!! These are the games we were warned about and the games that we need to find ways to win  if we are to get out of this league. 
 

In these games against poor opponents bravery is key. We had mountains of possession over 80% without a shot in the first 35 mins is pretty bad. We didn’t commit enough players to attacks we didn’t take enough risks. Partly the team selection partly the players. We should’ve started like we played in last 5 mins of first half and like the last 15-20 mins.

It is too early to start judging players and judging the manager. I was impressed with his interview on RD, I disagree with him this was like Charlton because we didn’t create enough but there is a method and a plan behind everything he is doing and he has absolute conviction in his beliefs and the way he communicates to the media indicates to me that’s the way he communicates to his players. It couldn’t be clearer what he is trying to do and the substitutions all had clear thought and reasoning behind it.

Its early days, we’ve had a solid but unspectacular start. Time to judge is October/November Liam is preparing his team to have the fitness to kick on at that point. If we’re still playing like tonight in late October, we can start to judge and be more critical. I’m still seeing enough to be positive though tonight wasn’t good enough and immensely frustrating.

I trust in Liam and wait to be proved wrong.

Great post bramcote, we have to force mistakes and you don’t do that by keeping meaningless position. 

to win games you have to take risks and be brave.

it’s quite amazing how they have signed so many players and the bench they have is still so bad, they will probably sign another 10

i thought we looked okay.

we won the game through individual quality at the end of the day. The quality subs won us the game

thought we made some parts of the game too easy for mansfield, second half in particular we were too sloppy playing out from the back. you can see LR clearly works hard on us playing from the back but we will have to move the ball quicker as we were too easily pressed