simmoram1995

1 hour ago, CornwallRam said:

I reckon there's been some mass hypnosis of football fans over the the last few years. Somehow, people now believe that tedious, short, sideways passing for most of a match is good football. It isn't, it's turgid anti-football nonsense. The brand of football peddled by Clement, Cocu and Rosenior is the least entertaining way of playing imaginable. I'm just amazed that so many people have been convinced by the excitement free, safety of the slow build up. It's Emperors new clothes writ large.

Warne's problem isn't that his brand of football isn't entertaining or effective. A fast passing game with early crosses and a high press is a great way of playing. The trouble is that we aren't playing that way. We're too slow to see the pass, too scared to take risks, not pressing as a team and delaying the crosses until the defence are organised. Warne's massive problem, and the reason he will soon be gone, is that  he has failed to get the team to play Warneball.

I wonder if that's a facet of being at a bigger club? Is he looking too far forward? There's a big thing been made that most of the recruitment has been of players with Championship experience. I suspect at Rotherham, that wasn't a thing. The players brought in were younger athletes with just enough ability to play in an organised League 1 side, but that was perfect for Warneball.

The players bought in here have more proven ability, but are that bit older and slower.  Maybe they are also less mouldable, having already seen how football is played at a higher level. Is that why a proven League 1 manager appears to be a poor fit for Derby County? He's adjusted his style for the bigger club and diluted his winning formula. 

After 50 years of watching football, the common factor with successful teans has just dawned on me. Our best sides are built around the striker's style. Warne is trying to shoehorn the strikers into his style. Yet our best managers worked out what their best strikers needed to be the most successful and set the team up to deliver it for them. 

Chris Martin was a donkey for a lot of his career, but as a pivot striker with Bryson, Ward and Russell running past and Eustace or Thorne feeding him, he looked like a world beater.

Look at the movement of Biano, Wanchope and Sturridge - all made possible by three central defenders and a holding midfielder.

Hector and O'Hare - fed by Hinton and constantly assisted by Gemmil.

Stevie Howard, Charlie George, Saunders and Goddard...etc. Even Nigel fell on a system with Shefki Kuqi starring that briefly looked brilliant until he inexplicably replaced Kuqi with Young. Warne himself accidentally got a winning formula last year with McGoldrick in the 9.5 role (yes I made that term up, but you know what I mean).

My conclusion is that the style doesn't hugely matter, as long as it suits the best strikers available at the club.

 

When Collins got his 20-25 goals he was playing as a two and told to stay in the middle 

It’s a shambles at the moment, I’ve stopped going as sadly lesson planning for my students is  a more enthusiastic task then entering pride park at the moment. we are a joke at the moment and I can’t see much exciting happening, the results are inconsistent, the atmosphere at pride park is dead and the relationship between the fans and the club is slowly cracking. At the end of the day he has a four year deal. If I was Clowes I’d really be considering his position because it’s not just a blasé decision of replace the manager , I can see the attendances dropping off especially now a lot of the rearranged fixtures are midweek. Personally I’d give him 10-15 games to sort it out if we are 10 points of the playoffs he’s gone 

Anyone seen the derby fans yelling at hourihane? 

Warne out 🙏 

Please get him gone he’s awful 

🤦‍♂️

Just now, simmoram1995 said:

Personally I’d like us to be competitive I don’t assume we’ll storm the league but where we currently are heading into October is not good enough. I’ll reiterate my view is if by January we are not at least with a point or two of the play offs then he’ll have to go. I like Warne he talks well but I think personally his oratory skills vastly outweigh his tactically prowess. For me to change my mind he needs to understand the squad better , play players in their most productive positions (even if it means a deviation from his favoured 3-5-2), be competitive against the top teams and show confidence against the so called “weaker” teams.

Tactical *

Personally I’d like us to be competitive I don’t assume we’ll storm the league but where we currently are heading into October is not good enough. I’ll reiterate my view is if by January we are not at least with a point or two of the play offs then he’ll have to go. I like Warne he talks well but I think personally his oratory skills vastly outweigh his tactically prowess. For me to change my mind he needs to understand the squad better , play players in their most productive positions (even if it means a deviation from his favoured 3-5-2), be competitive against the top teams and show confidence against the so called “weaker” teams.

Well my feeble attempt at a new song 

to tune of louie louie by the kingsmen 

play Louie louie oh oh oh oh 

he’ll score the goals 

As much as it pains me there’s only one manager that’s been successful in the past 20 years and that’s Billy Davies 

Was listening to the Rams podcast where the focus was about the atmosphere at Pride Park. It was suggested the atmosphere was flat due to unrealistic expectation and fan arrogance in league one. Personally I think the atmosphere has been awful for years. I remember when I first started watching derby I vividly remember a far better match day experience (03/04) with a drummer in the north stand for corners and free kicks. Plus Steve Bloomer’s watching is far too fast and large chunks are skipped out so fans are all over the place when it’s played, that awful spoken word poem doesn’t create much atmosphere and the “in our DNA youth” is just a bit embarrassing.

what’s everyone’s thoughts about the atmosphere and how could it be improved?

20 hours ago, 21CSchizoidRam said:

if Luton can do it, then so can we!

I’d like to be in a better position to compete then the horrendous attempt by Luton I can see a 0-1 point season coming 

41 minutes ago, angieram said:

That's exactly what Sibbo has been in recent seasons - sublet to any position but his own! 

I think Warne is very good at bulls*****g his way through stuff as tactically he comes across as mediocre  

I think we are a top ten team not a top six team the current results do not make good reading as it highlights extreme inconsistency 3 wins 3 losses. We need to be stronger , grittier and show the bottle. Our current form is a 12-13th place team if it continues.

anything less than top six this season Warne is gone 

1 minute ago, MackworthRamIsGod said:

Eiran Cashin on bench?

I look forward to Paul Warne saying so much without saying nothing in the post match interview.

Dropped possibly - psychology ? 
which would be worrying if his heads not in it he’s got until January at least 

1 minute ago, sage said:

Wait till he's interviewed by Ed Dawes. He'll need therapy

ED : What do you bring to the football club?

EE: my football boots 

ED: can you describe to the derby fans about your game ?

EE: I kick it , I head it, I run about a bit.

ED : welcome to derby 

EE: cool.

3 minutes ago, Rammeister said:

Just watched his interview.

He looks and sounds delighted to be here.

Has the enthusiasm of a teaspoon 🤦‍♂️

A new name I heard last night was Nathan Young - Coombes a striker on loan from Brentford. Not entirely convinced though 

6 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said:

So you have been told that Ladapo and Vaulkes are incoming……time will tell Simmo 😊

Ladapo is dependent on cashin being sold 

1 hour ago, Jimbo Ram said:

Your contact back from his holidays Simmo 😊

Haha 😂 spoke today 

no truth in JCH 
 

Ladapo 

Vaulks 

young RB / CB

expecting cashin Collins and a young player ( loan ) to leave 

10 minutes ago, Tamworthram said:

Haven’t you contradicted yourself there? You don’t give a toss about cheating but you’d love to see such behaviour eradicated.
 

It would be a very sad day in my mind if everyone stopped caring about cheating in football. It’s the biggest blight on the modern game as far as I’m concerned and I wish it could be stamped out. If I had my way, video evidence would be used to penalise players (yes, Derby players as much as anyone else’s) after the game when they have blatantly faked an injury in an attempt to have another player booked or sent off. The Wildsmith incident was a classic example. I hate time wasting but accept it’s become an almost acceptable part of the game. Wildsmith could easily have delayed the restart by claiming/faking cramp or something without resorting to the theatrics of pretending he had been struck on the head. 

It’s more the argument that it doesn’t look like it’s going to removed and everyone uses it against us so although I would try to avoid it if it can be effective for others why not us 

10 minutes ago, ramit said:

It's not being smart, it's not professionalism, it's cheating. 

Playing fair and succeeding can well go together.  If Warne needs to rely on players faking injuries to win games, that is not a flattering reflection of his managerial skills.  i trust that Warne is ambitious and self confident enough to stamp out this kind of tomfoolery.

Man U 

Chelsea 

arsenal 

barcelona 

real 

psg 

all do or have done it. No one criticises them 

I don’t give a toss about cheating tbh , derby have been too nice I actually applaud it it’s not conventional but it’s bloody effective. 
 

id love for such behaviour to be eradicated but it isn’t and other teams bully and frustrate us why can’t we do it?

6 minutes ago, Steve How Hard? said:

He didn't think it would be on due to the rain showers. He didn't realise it was gonna Brighton up. 

He was at the Matlock beer festival lots of photos of fans with him today