Kathcairns

18 minutes ago, ossieram said:

You wouldn't be the first to say it.

???

10 minutes ago, ossieram said:

2 quick points on this. 

1/ Nobody mocked Sharpe over the death of his baby at the match last weekend. 

2/ The day I care about people liking me as a person on a football forum  is the day I go to support forest.

Perhaps you are not liked full stop ?

6 hours ago, uttoxram75 said:

Something weird happening here.

Wednesday night home match v Reading. The Rams on minus 2 points, in administration, without an owner and massive uncertainty over the future, against a poor team with a tiny away support and yet we had an atmosphere at times that was as electric as anything i've felt in my 50 years as a Ram.

Hairs stood up time as stood in the middle of the South Stand and heard the roar build up from the East and West stands, never felt that raw passion and support since the Baseball Ground years. No play off or promotion glory to get excited over, just survival, backs to the wall Derby support.

Proud af to be a Ram tonight.

 

Agree, the last time it was like that was when 40,000 plus were packed in the baseball ground. Brilliant, well done team, rooney etc and fans.

6 minutes ago, Alpha said:

Definitely. Should have been more comfortable really

I agree, just need to get more goals when running the games.

17 minutes ago, Alpha said:

Feck 'em. Feck them and the EFL. 

Only one thing I like about Millwall and that is they don't have to pretend there's a football community. They don't follow the unwritten rules about respect. I like that. For the majority of Millwall fans they don't cross the line. They're just horrible. 

Forget all this, what a team tonight.

4 minutes ago, Seaside Ram said:

Maybe ? Is that the nearest I'll get to "oh yes , I overreacted just because your post followed mine " 

You could have been referring to me, sorry if you wasnt.

Just now, Kathcairns said:

 

Just now, Kathcairns said:

 

Maybe but dont lose respect for other people.

1 minute ago, David said:

Football is a sport, a competition between clubs, I have no desire to be universally liked by fans we are competing with.

Sure it's nice to have the media praising us, but they will be quick to turn on you for a click, that's football.

I also don't think we're as widely disliked as some would lead you to believe, we live in a bubble where we have Forest, Leeds, Boro and a couple of oddballs in Bristol that are enjoying it, other than that I bet you will struggle to find large percentages of fans that "hate" us.

This is why I believe the "we're a laughing stock" are a complete overreaction. How many of the national journalists have even covered our situation? They don't give a crap as they are part of the PL bubble that chooses to ignore what goes on outside of that.

Step outside the bubble once in a while and many won't even know what's going off.

As for the chants, I wouldn't join in maybepersonally, the Billy Sharp one was just bizarre, as is singing about Stan Collymore in the concourses in Sheffield. 

I'm not offended, just confused. Those singing got their reaction though, without the penalty he was in Jagielka's pocket all day, chances are he would have walked down the tunnel head down, that's how it goes.

Not trying to justify the chants, they were weird, but agree with those that say it's not just us, let's not pile in on our own fans at a time we need to come together.

2 minutes ago, Seaside Ram said:

Filming fellow Derby fans then grassing them up , dear oh dear , welcome to 2021 ! ?❄️❄️❄️

I never posted that. Look at the other comments first.

7 minutes ago, mike93rh said:

Imagine being in the slightest bit arsed about other fans' opinions of us?

We support our club and that's all that matters.

Wouldnt do for all fans not to have feelings, and before we get woke comments born 1950 way before the woke generation.

Just now, Charlotte Ram said:

was not referring to that, those chants were disgusting

Didnt make yourself plain.

2 minutes ago, Charlotte Ram said:

Woke questionnaire to be filled in before admission before long.

Very funny, i dont mind most songs but not 6 innocent children dying

4 minutes ago, ossieram said:

My daughter is married to a Philpott and 4 of my grandkids have the name.

When the singing starts, I look at my grandson at the side of me to see his reaction,  it's normally a smile followed by a swear word. 

We know we don't burn our kids and we ignore it.

Still not acceptable, when 6 children lost their lives.

32 minutes ago, ossieram said:

I can't remember people being so precious when it's the opposition fans singing about us burning our kids and other lyrical masterpieces. 

I wasn't at Sheffield to hear what was sang, but I dare say quite a few moaning about it now weren't there either.

Youngsters get drunk and do stupid things and the world keeps on turning. 

And did you like them singing about burning our kids, i thought it was awful.

25 minutes ago, MuespachRam said:

Listen I have zero "skin in the game" as far as really liking Stevie Mac or Mad Mel, they both mean nothing to me, but the facts are, Steve was SACKED by Mad Mel more than likely because of his ego getting the better of him, he did not quit to go to Newcastle, he said on numerous interviews that he wanted to stay at Derby and Newcastle did not appoint him until Mad Mel had sacked him...

It doesnt matter what you "think" Stevie Mac was thinking or not, the facts are that Mel sacked him, so he had no job, so who can blame him for taking the Newcastle job..?

Not commenting further, this has run its course, getting bored. We all got our own opinions, wouldnt be good if we all thought the same, dont you agree.

21 minutes ago, MuespachRam said:

Listen I have zero "skin in the game" as far as really liking Stevie Mac or Mad Mel, they both mean nothing to me, but the facts are, Steve was SACKED by Mad Mel more than likely because of his ego getting the better of him, he did not quit to go to Newcastle, he said on numerous interviews that he wanted to stay at Derby and Newcastle did not appoint him until Mad Mel had sacked him...

It doesnt matter what you "think" Stevie Mac was thinking or not, the facts are that Mel sacked him, so he had no job, so who can blame him for taking the Newcastle job..?

So me and raich are wrong, dont recall the numerous interviews myself, but what do i know.

12 minutes ago, MuespachRam said:

He did countless times. But still mad Mel sacked him. 

Countless times, dont think so.

5 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

He did commit to us. And Mel and his ego sacked him anyway.

You will never convince me, time to move on i think, its all water under the bridge now anyway.

14 minutes ago, MuespachRam said:

Don’t forget the most important flaw in your argument…he did not leave us for Newcastle. Mad Mel sacked him. 

Yea he did,but like raich says he wouldnt commit to us.( not sticking up for mel here.)

4 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

This.

The newcastle stuff was far more a fan obbesseion.

Whilst personnally i think (not ITK, just my thoughts) McClaren had intentionally made sure he left himself a door open with Newcastle he wasn't activly looking to jump ship. But it makes an easy story to explain why we failed.

I agree a foot in both camps you could say.

19 minutes ago, FlyBritishMidland said:

I don’t think Mel really wanted Mac the 2nd time around.  He was keeping the seat warm until Rowett was available - one of the good things about Mel was never paying compensation for a manager.  Mac was brought in to keep us up after Pearson but was sacked after a bad spell, and Rowett being available.  Even at Macs initial press conference he was presented to the media on his own apologising for how he left like a naughty schoolboy.  No sign of Mel, the complete opposite of all his other appointments.  Sam Rush was still here then and I think that’s why he was brought back.

But you’re right, he should have stuck with him instead of yet another change in direction in manager, style of play, type of players needed, etc.

Maclaren seems to be like marmite, you love it or hate it??

1 hour ago, Alpha said:

Nah, don't think like that. We can agree or disagree it doesn't matter. We're all Derby and there's no need for grudges etc. 

Hope you're well.

No grudges, just like to enjoy football, wich at the end of the day what will we all do if noone buys. Been going since 1968,cant think that we could cease to exist. Thankyou i am well.

1 hour ago, Alpha said:

Personally, no. But it has been spoken about in the media. I see no reason to lie. Steve McClaren is hardly big news

Never said you was lying, i dont callpeople liars, but a lot is just paper talk you have to take it with a pinch of salt.

44 minutes ago, Curtains said:

Not Steve’s fault at all. 

I remember the. fans forum at Telegraph pub in Derby I think it was with Simmo ,Steely and Steve just after he took over from Nigel and fans welcomed them. 
 

Nigel had a difficult task at Derby with finances and rebuilding the team after was it the 11 point season !

He did a great job but his football wasn’t always respected by fans but he had a great record against Forest and Leeds.

He would argue he was still in the building stage when Mac arrived. 
 

Im waffling .

But as I say Steve is helping Derby now IMO in difficult times for the club 

Your not waffling at all. I dont usually comment on this forum, just like reading the very witty comments some people post but had to have a small operation so had to isolate, so had time on my hands. Will be going back to reading it now, getting to serious for me?

5 minutes ago, Curtains said:

Unfortunately we don’t always know the facts and we get preconceived ideas about Mac. 

He did get sidetracked by the Newcastle thing as did Lampard about Chelsea  but at the end of the day Steve has been more loyal than Frank IMO .

Nigel obviously felt pushed out by Derby when he was building a good team but Mac created something special with mostly Nigels players. 
 
In retrospect NC did a great job at Derby .

Football clubs all have history that’s often forgotten in the present. 

Fans can be fickle including myself but that’s football. 

Look how many love Rooney now !

 

 

 

 

Totally agree, but we was only a stepping stone for frank wasnt we, hopefully rooney is different.