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While it's easy to look at the negative side of things regarding the size of our budget in comparison to other clubs, there are benefits to having a smaller budget.
1 - Focus on developing youth. Clubs with lower budgets tend to have to look to invest heavily in their youth set ups. With our track record of providing first team opportunities to younger players, the club could be an attractive prospect for talented young players in the area. As well as this, young players who develop in-house tend to have stronger loyalties towards the club that developed them. This can help create a stronger sense of togetherness, just look at the impact we've seen in previous years from out younger players.
2 - Effective scouting. As we can't just go out and handpick players, the scouting system is forced to find innovative and smarter ways of identifying talent, perhaps looking to find undervalued markets to exploit. As it will be harder for the scouts they will need to improve their way of doing things, which could help them develop in the long term as well.
3 - Financial stability. As we aren't close to getting promotion from the championship, the club doesn't necessarily need to overspend on trying to get the final piece of the puzzle so to say. We've all heard and seen how DC wants to run the club sustainably, which may have some short term pain on the way to success in the long term. We may not be ready to challenge for promotion from the championship for 5 seasons or more, but when we are back we will be in a better place to succeed.
4 - Player development pathways. This is similar to my first point. A number of teams who have gone up through the leagues have focused on developing players then selling them on for profit. They then invest this profit in more players to develop then sell them on for more profit and continue doing this. We've all seen how many young players have come though our system and now we are in the championship we could demand higher fees. Didn't Bournemouth bid £9 million for Cashin a number of years ago? We have a number of good players to develop in the club, who we could potentially sell on for big money in the future, and then we can invest this in numerous players to develop further.

This was very era was very early in my time supporting the club, so I can't comment on the feelings around the club at the time. But, is this current era not different. At the time of GSE coming in in 2008 we had recently been at a relative high in terms of being promoted to the premier league, but the club started plummeting from the start of 'that' season (as it was my first season properly following football, I spent the following seasons being amazed at how unlucky teams were to get relegated after getting more than 20 points in a season), 20th in PL, 18th, 14th, 19th in Championship in successive seasons. Essentially, we were in a decline with no clear evidence of it stopping.
At the moment, we are on our way up again. Stephen Pearce has talked about the club having a long term view of things, which makes sense imo. Next season, following promotion, we should be looking at staying up, the year after we should be looking at a comfortable below mid table finish at the very least, the season after that we should aim to be slightly above mid table and so on. If the club follows this trend I suspect the realistic fans would be happy, as we are progressing back to where Derby County should be in the pyramid.
Regarding your point about the last time the club were in the bottom 6 or 8 in terms of budget ending in protests. I only see this happening if the club show no signs of moving forward (if we become a Rotherham for example). However, for the first time in a long time I trust our owner in David Clowes. I genuinely feel like he can create long term sustainable success at the club, like he and his family have done at Clowes Developments. It may well be that our current and previous owners' time and achievements at the club reflect how they have done so well in business. DC and Clowes Developments being built up sustainably, while MM's time as Derby owner is similar to the game his company made. Lots of things to get exited about while it's happening only to have very little when its not being played. 

This was very era was very early in my time supporting the club, so I can't comment on the feelings around the club at the time. But, is this current era not different. At the time of GSE coming in in 2008 we had recently been at a relative high in terms of being promoted to the premier league, but the club started plummeting from the start of 'that' season (as it was my first season properly following football, I spent the following seasons being amazed at how unlucky teams were to get relegated after getting more than 20 points in a season), 20th in PL, 18th, 14th, 19th in Championship in successive seasons. Essentially, we were in a decline with no clear evidence of it stopping.
At the moment, we are on our way up again. Stephen Pearce has talked about the club having a long term view of things, which makes sense imo. Next season, following promotion, we should be looking at staying up, the year after we should be looking at a comfortable below mid table finish at the very least, the season after that we should aim to be slightly above mid table and so on. If the club follows this trend I suspect the realistic fans would be happy, as we are progressing back to where Derby County should be in the pyramid.
Regarding your point about the last time the club were in the bottom 6 or 8 in terms of budget ending in protests. I only see this happening if the club show no signs of moving forward (if we become a Rotherham for example). However, for the first time in a long time I trust our owner in David Clowes. I genuinely feel like he can create long term sustainable success at the club, like he and his family have done at Clowes Developments. It may well be that our current and previous owners' time and achievements at the club reflect how they have done so well in business. DC and Clowes Developments being built up sustainably, while MM's time as Derby owner is similar to the game his company made. Lots of things to get exited about while it's happening only to have very little when its not being played. 

While it's easy to look at the negative side of things regarding the size of our budget in comparison to other clubs, there are benefits to having a smaller budget.
1 - Focus on developing youth. Clubs with lower budgets tend to have to look to invest heavily in their youth set ups. With our track record of providing first team opportunities to younger players, the club could be an attractive prospect for talented young players in the area. As well as this, young players who develop in-house tend to have stronger loyalties towards the club that developed them. This can help create a stronger sense of togetherness, just look at the impact we've seen in previous years from out younger players.
2 - Effective scouting. As we can't just go out and handpick players, the scouting system is forced to find innovative and smarter ways of identifying talent, perhaps looking to find undervalued markets to exploit. As it will be harder for the scouts they will need to improve their way of doing things, which could help them develop in the long term as well.
3 - Financial stability. As we aren't close to getting promotion from the championship, the club doesn't necessarily need to overspend on trying to get the final piece of the puzzle so to say. We've all heard and seen how DC wants to run the club sustainably, which may have some short term pain on the way to success in the long term. We may not be ready to challenge for promotion from the championship for 5 seasons or more, but when we are back we will be in a better place to succeed.
4 - Player development pathways. This is similar to my first point. A number of teams who have gone up through the leagues have focused on developing players then selling them on for profit. They then invest this profit in more players to develop then sell them on for more profit and continue doing this. We've all seen how many young players have come though our system and now we are in the championship we could demand higher fees. Didn't Bournemouth bid £9 million for Cashin a number of years ago? We have a number of good players to develop in the club, who we could potentially sell on for big money in the future, and then we can invest this in numerous players to develop further.

While it's easy to look at the negative side of things regarding the size of our budget in comparison to other clubs, there are benefits to having a smaller budget.
1 - Focus on developing youth. Clubs with lower budgets tend to have to look to invest heavily in their youth set ups. With our track record of providing first team opportunities to younger players, the club could be an attractive prospect for talented young players in the area. As well as this, young players who develop in-house tend to have stronger loyalties towards the club that developed them. This can help create a stronger sense of togetherness, just look at the impact we've seen in previous years from out younger players.
2 - Effective scouting. As we can't just go out and handpick players, the scouting system is forced to find innovative and smarter ways of identifying talent, perhaps looking to find undervalued markets to exploit. As it will be harder for the scouts they will need to improve their way of doing things, which could help them develop in the long term as well.
3 - Financial stability. As we aren't close to getting promotion from the championship, the club doesn't necessarily need to overspend on trying to get the final piece of the puzzle so to say. We've all heard and seen how DC wants to run the club sustainably, which may have some short term pain on the way to success in the long term. We may not be ready to challenge for promotion from the championship for 5 seasons or more, but when we are back we will be in a better place to succeed.
4 - Player development pathways. This is similar to my first point. A number of teams who have gone up through the leagues have focused on developing players then selling them on for profit. They then invest this profit in more players to develop then sell them on for more profit and continue doing this. We've all seen how many young players have come though our system and now we are in the championship we could demand higher fees. Didn't Bournemouth bid £9 million for Cashin a number of years ago? We have a number of good players to develop in the club, who we could potentially sell on for big money in the future, and then we can invest this in numerous players to develop further.

While it's easy to look at the negative side of things regarding the size of our budget in comparison to other clubs, there are benefits to having a smaller budget.
1 - Focus on developing youth. Clubs with lower budgets tend to have to look to invest heavily in their youth set ups. With our track record of providing first team opportunities to younger players, the club could be an attractive prospect for talented young players in the area. As well as this, young players who develop in-house tend to have stronger loyalties towards the club that developed them. This can help create a stronger sense of togetherness, just look at the impact we've seen in previous years from out younger players.
2 - Effective scouting. As we can't just go out and handpick players, the scouting system is forced to find innovative and smarter ways of identifying talent, perhaps looking to find undervalued markets to exploit. As it will be harder for the scouts they will need to improve their way of doing things, which could help them develop in the long term as well.
3 - Financial stability. As we aren't close to getting promotion from the championship, the club doesn't necessarily need to overspend on trying to get the final piece of the puzzle so to say. We've all heard and seen how DC wants to run the club sustainably, which may have some short term pain on the way to success in the long term. We may not be ready to challenge for promotion from the championship for 5 seasons or more, but when we are back we will be in a better place to succeed.
4 - Player development pathways. This is similar to my first point. A number of teams who have gone up through the leagues have focused on developing players then selling them on for profit. They then invest this profit in more players to develop then sell them on for more profit and continue doing this. We've all seen how many young players have come though our system and now we are in the championship we could demand higher fees. Didn't Bournemouth bid £9 million for Cashin a number of years ago? We have a number of good players to develop in the club, who we could potentially sell on for big money in the future, and then we can invest this in numerous players to develop further.

Well … That aged well

Well … That aged well

Might the club be delaying the announcement of the retained list, so that they can announce Adams back on a permanent

To back up my point about not rushing Brown, I've done a bit of research into players stepping up from the National League into the EFL.
To start on a rather negative point, there are a number of forwards to step up into L1 who never meet the standards of the level in the last couple of seasons.
Kabonga Tshimanga - 24 goals in 27 games followed by 7 goals in 17 games before stepping up into L1. 22 games without scoring in L1 for Peterborough and Fleetwood.
Matt Lowe - 11 in 41 before stepping up. 0 in 20 games (L1) and 0 in 23 games (L2) since.
Josh Walker - 10 in 32 followed by 10 in 24 before stepping up. 2 in 16 (L1) and 1 in 16 (L2) since.
There have been some players in this period who have made the step up.
Ephron Mason-Clark left Barnet for Peterborough after scoring 6 in 39 in the NL. He followed on from this by scoring 9 in 39 before taking an extra step developmentally this season scoring 14 and setting up countless other goals.
Rúben Rodrigues scored 18 in 43 for Notts County before joining Oxford this year scoring 9 in 44. 
Joe Taylor also made the step up, but took e seasons before reaching double figures in L1 this year for Lincoln.
Other than these I can find many to make the step up to L1 directly, which should give an indication (to fans wanting Brown in the Championship next year) as to how big a step up it is and the need to move up through the leagues gradually.
Looking at the numbers it appears a L2 loan would be most beneficial for Dajaune next season. Potentially a loan to Notts County if they end up selling Langstaff.
 

How many Premier League clubs sign a player after having a good season in Non League?
In my opinion we should be looking at Brown as one for the future. The 'future' may come as soon as the second half of this season or it may come in a year or twos time. What we can all agree on by reading the comments on him, is that he will play a part in the clubs first team at some point or other.
Having watched quite a bit of National league football this year, as my home town team have been playing in it, we need to temper our expectations of his current ability. I'm not denying that he has had a fantastic half season at Gateshead. But the standard of defending at NL level is terrible. Defenders are out of position far more than they were in League 1 last year. Defenders lose their players far more than they did in League 1. Defenders are typically slower and don't have the defending IQ to counteract it.
 

To back up my point about not rushing Brown, I've done a bit of research into players stepping up from the National League into the EFL.
To start on a rather negative point, there are a number of forwards to step up into L1 who never meet the standards of the level in the last couple of seasons.
Kabonga Tshimanga - 24 goals in 27 games followed by 7 goals in 17 games before stepping up into L1. 22 games without scoring in L1 for Peterborough and Fleetwood.
Matt Lowe - 11 in 41 before stepping up. 0 in 20 games (L1) and 0 in 23 games (L2) since.
Josh Walker - 10 in 32 followed by 10 in 24 before stepping up. 2 in 16 (L1) and 1 in 16 (L2) since.
There have been some players in this period who have made the step up.
Ephron Mason-Clark left Barnet for Peterborough after scoring 6 in 39 in the NL. He followed on from this by scoring 9 in 39 before taking an extra step developmentally this season scoring 14 and setting up countless other goals.
Rúben Rodrigues scored 18 in 43 for Notts County before joining Oxford this year scoring 9 in 44. 
Joe Taylor also made the step up, but took e seasons before reaching double figures in L1 this year for Lincoln.
Other than these I can find many to make the step up to L1 directly, which should give an indication (to fans wanting Brown in the Championship next year) as to how big a step up it is and the need to move up through the leagues gradually.
Looking at the numbers it appears a L2 loan would be most beneficial for Dajaune next season. Potentially a loan to Notts County if they end up selling Langstaff.
 

To back up my point about not rushing Brown, I've done a bit of research into players stepping up from the National League into the EFL.
To start on a rather negative point, there are a number of forwards to step up into L1 who never meet the standards of the level in the last couple of seasons.
Kabonga Tshimanga - 24 goals in 27 games followed by 7 goals in 17 games before stepping up into L1. 22 games without scoring in L1 for Peterborough and Fleetwood.
Matt Lowe - 11 in 41 before stepping up. 0 in 20 games (L1) and 0 in 23 games (L2) since.
Josh Walker - 10 in 32 followed by 10 in 24 before stepping up. 2 in 16 (L1) and 1 in 16 (L2) since.
There have been some players in this period who have made the step up.
Ephron Mason-Clark left Barnet for Peterborough after scoring 6 in 39 in the NL. He followed on from this by scoring 9 in 39 before taking an extra step developmentally this season scoring 14 and setting up countless other goals.
Rúben Rodrigues scored 18 in 43 for Notts County before joining Oxford this year scoring 9 in 44. 
Joe Taylor also made the step up, but took e seasons before reaching double figures in L1 this year for Lincoln.
Other than these I can find many to make the step up to L1 directly, which should give an indication (to fans wanting Brown in the Championship next year) as to how big a step up it is and the need to move up through the leagues gradually.
Looking at the numbers it appears a L2 loan would be most beneficial for Dajaune next season. Potentially a loan to Notts County if they end up selling Langstaff.
 

How many Premier League clubs sign a player after having a good season in Non League?
In my opinion we should be looking at Brown as one for the future. The 'future' may come as soon as the second half of this season or it may come in a year or twos time. What we can all agree on by reading the comments on him, is that he will play a part in the clubs first team at some point or other.
Having watched quite a bit of National league football this year, as my home town team have been playing in it, we need to temper our expectations of his current ability. I'm not denying that he has had a fantastic half season at Gateshead. But the standard of defending at NL level is terrible. Defenders are out of position far more than they were in League 1 last year. Defenders lose their players far more than they did in League 1. Defenders are typically slower and don't have the defending IQ to counteract it.
 

Chesterfield fans reckon he's going to join them on loan for next season. I'm not so sure as I recall Warne talking about a team 'at the top of the national league' who weren't convincing at all when they tried to take him on loan last year. 
Then again it has been very amusing reading who they think their club are signing this summer with Sam Morsy (just gone up with Ipswich), Liam Cooper (Leeds captain) and Nathan Byrne the 'most' likely according to them.

Chesterfield fans reckon he's going to join them on loan for next season. I'm not so sure as I recall Warne talking about a team 'at the top of the national league' who weren't convincing at all when they tried to take him on loan last year. 
Then again it has been very amusing reading who they think their club are signing this summer with Sam Morsy (just gone up with Ipswich), Liam Cooper (Leeds captain) and Nathan Byrne the 'most' likely according to them.

I sort of agree with this, but I'd do it the other way round. I'd look to loan him out to a L1 or L2 team to make sure the jump up in standard isn't too much too quick for him.
National League defending really isn't up to standard. Hence Will Grigg scoring 25 goals this season, more than he scored in his past 5 seasons combined in L1. Diesuruvwe scoring 24 despite not doing anything at Salford in L2. Kabamba scoring 5 goals in 2 seasons in L2, then 25 in 40 games this season.
For his long term development I think it would be better to gradually work his way up the leagues. This way we could end up thinking in several seasons time about how good he is, rather than how good he could have been.
I don't want him to end up becoming another Mason Bennett.

I sort of agree with this, but I'd do it the other way round. I'd look to loan him out to a L1 or L2 team to make sure the jump up in standard isn't too much too quick for him.
National League defending really isn't up to standard. Hence Will Grigg scoring 25 goals this season, more than he scored in his past 5 seasons combined in L1. Diesuruvwe scoring 24 despite not doing anything at Salford in L2. Kabamba scoring 5 goals in 2 seasons in L2, then 25 in 40 games this season.
For his long term development I think it would be better to gradually work his way up the leagues. This way we could end up thinking in several seasons time about how good he is, rather than how good he could have been.
I don't want him to end up becoming another Mason Bennett.

I think Loach plays quite an important, yet under appreciated role at the club. He's at the stage of his career where he's thinking about life after retirement and is working his way through the coaching badges. This combined with his experience must be really helpful to the young keepers at the club.

I sort of agree with this, but I'd do it the other way round. I'd look to loan him out to a L1 or L2 team to make sure the jump up in standard isn't too much too quick for him.
National League defending really isn't up to standard. Hence Will Grigg scoring 25 goals this season, more than he scored in his past 5 seasons combined in L1. Diesuruvwe scoring 24 despite not doing anything at Salford in L2. Kabamba scoring 5 goals in 2 seasons in L2, then 25 in 40 games this season.
For his long term development I think it would be better to gradually work his way up the leagues. This way we could end up thinking in several seasons time about how good he is, rather than how good he could have been.
I don't want him to end up becoming another Mason Bennett.

I sort of agree with this, but I'd do it the other way round. I'd look to loan him out to a L1 or L2 team to make sure the jump up in standard isn't too much too quick for him.
National League defending really isn't up to standard. Hence Will Grigg scoring 25 goals this season, more than he scored in his past 5 seasons combined in L1. Diesuruvwe scoring 24 despite not doing anything at Salford in L2. Kabamba scoring 5 goals in 2 seasons in L2, then 25 in 40 games this season.
For his long term development I think it would be better to gradually work his way up the leagues. This way we could end up thinking in several seasons time about how good he is, rather than how good he could have been.
I don't want him to end up becoming another Mason Bennett.

I think Loach plays quite an important, yet under appreciated role at the club. He's at the stage of his career where he's thinking about life after retirement and is working his way through the coaching badges. This combined with his experience must be really helpful to the young keepers at the club.

While I’m disappointed he’s left, it was a fantastic ending to his time as a Derby player. Opening the scoring, getting the appreciation from the crowd when he went off, then winning promotion back to the lowest level where we should be.

Supposedly, he's on just over £60,000 a week at the moment. I can't see him taking a huge pay cut to join us. With the way modern football's going I wouldn't be surprised to see him at a lower level Premier League team like Leicester, Crystal Palace or Everton.

You can't take too much from this type of video. I remember spending my summer watching Kamil Jozwiak clips thinking he'd take us to the prem.