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4/7/2020, Derby 1 Nottingham Forest 1.

5 minutes ago, jimbo jones said:

Fairly routine win for India tonight down the county ground. We struggled to find the boundaries against their bowling attack. Apart from Du Plooy who hit 2 in a row but then got bowled out trying a ramp shot. Cartwright looked decent as well until Guest ran him out.

More importantly though, defeat for Northants and Yorkshire mean we have qualified for the T20 quarterfinals with a game to spare and even have a chance at a home QF with a win on Sunday ?

You had me confused, how could Derbys play India when England were in the Test, turns out India fielding two teams today...

7 minutes ago, JRW1611 said:

No pressure…

 

We’re still getting promoted this season though yeah?

DC twice before in div 3, both times took 2 seasons to get promoted, maybe coming season third time lucky...

Just thinking, on 30/7/1966 England won the World Cup; on 30/7/2022 it will feel like Derby won the World Cup in their opening fixture v. Oxford.

1972, DC toasted BC.

2022, DC toasted DC.

9/7/2022, Bradford City v. Derby but the ones that really matter start on 30/7/2022, Derby v. Oxford.

1/7/2020, Preston 0 Derby 1.

138 not out and many more to come...

4 minutes ago, Brailsford Ram said:

And I think that David Clowes' personal wealth is probably similar to to the value of CD Ltd. on top. But he is still wise enough to want to spread his risk on DCFC with others, unlike Mel Morris.

Could work well in the future with a Chairman and a few other shareholders, represented on the board with maybe others, and perhaps supporter reps in due course, esp if a group of supporters bought a tranche of shares.

Resurrection Shuffle - Ashton, Gardner and Dyke, 1971.

5 minutes ago, Ambitious said:

I can't find any of these updates on companies house - the £59m must relate to the bid/funding of the club though? 

See under Gellaw Newco 202.

There is a figure of £81m in the accounts, then the £59m, something about non cash, maybe the cash is the difference, ie, £22m paid for PP

27/6/2020, Derby 2 Reading 1.

The last bloke I heard saying he didn't really want the job but didn't want some idiot coming in and messing up was Bob Paisley at Liverpool 1974, he didn't do too badly?

9 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

well that was really my point - i hope young Jack is full of running.......

tbf think it's the Derby County U16 squad rather than the main one, looking carefully at the heading?

18 minutes ago, Brailsford Ram said:

I hope that David Clowes retains ownership of the stadium and also has at least a share in the ownership of the football club. If that is to be the case the ground would be rent free. He is a lifelong supporter and I am very confident that his ownership of the stadium will be conducted alongside the best interests of the football club. The problems caused by the separation of the stadium from the club has caused us all some anxiety during the administration process and I never want to go through those worries again.

Agree. Picturing how that might happen. DCl owns PP, transfers to DC for say £20m of shares. Another party also buys into DC for say £20m to clear debts, etc. So DCl and a n other each own say 50% of DC, including PP.

22 minutes ago, Carnero said:

Apparently he's "on the look out for potential partners to give the club the best chance of competing next season", nothing to do with completing the initial deal to buy the club.

My ideal would be for Clowes to complete the deal ASAP then sell a % to the Appleby Group who will help with the running of the club.

Agree with that but need to get PP back on DC balance sheet/ownership at some stage.

Cowes Week starts 30/7.

Clowes Week starts 30/7 with Oxford at home.

4 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

Clowes has been smart here, he has loaned the club some money and owns the stadium so the other bidders have to deal with him now in some capacity. He has manoeuvred himself in to a position where him owning the club now just makes a lot more sense than any others.

I reckon we might see him taking over the club alongside someone like Appleby to pull in some additional investment. Less risky for Appleby and whoever he is convincing to part with some cash as well and if they can share the burden we might be able to cobble enough cash together to avoid a points deduction.

All of that is entirely speculation on my part, but seems to make sense.

Didn't Clowes first get involved to buy PP for Kirchner to lease/rent off him, so bringing in someone else to help with funding wouldn't be a surprise, if he can find someone he can work with.

@Bradford City 2 weeks tomorrow first pre-season friendly, assume some potential deals have been lined up pending the go ahead, the club secretary likely to be busy.

2 minutes ago, Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster said:

Forgive me. It's s late and I'm just catching up...

So after it looking like a head to head battle between MA and AA...

Mr Clowes has emerged from the wings as, reportedly being the 'fan' that was prepared to facilitate the CK bid by buying the ground - ergo completing the deal....

... To upscaling his offer to buy the club as a whole?

... And being the frontrunner as the best bid?

Is that where we're at?

Please, someone summarise for me. 

And if the answers to my questions are all yes - could he/we not be usurped by better offers from MA/AA in the coming days? 

How much is Clowes worth? It it a business deal or a fan deal?

Does he have any wonga spare for future investment - or is it a wealthy fan clearing our debt, with a view to us become self-sufficient after him saving us?

Sorry for all my questions. 

Just read n/w £252m in 2018.

10/9/2022, Morecambe v. Derby.

Scheduled League game 5000, hopefully.

4 minutes ago, Brailsford Ram said:

I seem to recall that in the negotiations they were valuing the club at £50m in the Championship and £100m in the Premier. This was just four months after the QPR defeat at Wembley. We were fancied for the top two and they agreed a price halfway between the two figures at about £75m.

Assume the £75m was the club including PP, reading current offer could be around £50m for club plus stadium, albeit lower down the Leagues.

Appleby sold to Morris in 2015, can anyone recall the price compared with what may be forking out now...

1 minute ago, Mckram said:

100% agree and that’s my point, you look at the belief and feel good factor on the pitch this season…it gives players confidence and belief.

If Rooney walked earlier this season, would we have seen half the youngster come on like they have this year? He added so much value to us this year. 

He added so much this year, yes. Not convinced he'd be at one with say Ashley/Charnley, they may prefer their own man, or may go with him for his final contract year, we'll see...

2 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said:

If Rooney stays for at least one more season then he definitely won't be given a new contract for the 90 grand a week he's currently earning. Allegedly. 

that's partly why I think croc tears if he leaves this summer.