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    JfR got a reaction from cstand in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/sport/football/article/football-nottingham-forest-points-deduction-decision-financial-rules-gkfpnjmcg
    "An appeal by Nottingham Forest against the four-point deduction imposed for breaching the Premier League’s financial rules would run the risk of the sanction being increased."
     
    Is there any way to launch an appeal on behalf of someone else? If not, is anyone able to forge Marinakis' handwriting?
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    JfR got a reaction from BPV in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    Forest's claims about being unfairly disadvantaged as a promoted Championship club would certainly hold more weight if they didn't also come out against distributing more pay to EFL clubs less than a week ago:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13188487/Premier-League-clubs-shot-EFL-deal.html
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    JfR got a reaction from TigerTedd in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    Did have to smirk at this. Doesn't exactly bode well for the quality of these commissions if they couldn't even correctly figure out 38*3:

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    JfR got a reaction from MarsdenRam in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/sport/football/article/football-nottingham-forest-points-deduction-decision-financial-rules-gkfpnjmcg
    "An appeal by Nottingham Forest against the four-point deduction imposed for breaching the Premier League’s financial rules would run the risk of the sanction being increased."
     
    Is there any way to launch an appeal on behalf of someone else? If not, is anyone able to forge Marinakis' handwriting?
  5. Haha
    JfR got a reaction from TigerTedd in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/sport/football/article/football-nottingham-forest-points-deduction-decision-financial-rules-gkfpnjmcg
    "An appeal by Nottingham Forest against the four-point deduction imposed for breaching the Premier League’s financial rules would run the risk of the sanction being increased."
     
    Is there any way to launch an appeal on behalf of someone else? If not, is anyone able to forge Marinakis' handwriting?
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    JfR got a reaction from Sparkle in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    Forest's claims about being unfairly disadvantaged as a promoted Championship club would certainly hold more weight if they didn't also come out against distributing more pay to EFL clubs less than a week ago:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13188487/Premier-League-clubs-shot-EFL-deal.html
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    JfR got a reaction from TigerTedd in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    Forest's claims about being unfairly disadvantaged as a promoted Championship club would certainly hold more weight if they didn't also come out against distributing more pay to EFL clubs less than a week ago:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13188487/Premier-League-clubs-shot-EFL-deal.html
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    JfR got a reaction from oodledoodle in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    Forest's claims about being unfairly disadvantaged as a promoted Championship club would certainly hold more weight if they didn't also come out against distributing more pay to EFL clubs less than a week ago:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13188487/Premier-League-clubs-shot-EFL-deal.html
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    JfR got a reaction from The_Sheriff in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    Forest's claims about being unfairly disadvantaged as a promoted Championship club would certainly hold more weight if they didn't also come out against distributing more pay to EFL clubs less than a week ago:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13188487/Premier-League-clubs-shot-EFL-deal.html
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    JfR got a reaction from Mucker1884 in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    Forest's claims about being unfairly disadvantaged as a promoted Championship club would certainly hold more weight if they didn't also come out against distributing more pay to EFL clubs less than a week ago:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13188487/Premier-League-clubs-shot-EFL-deal.html
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    JfR got a reaction from RadioactiveWaste in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    Did have to smirk at this. Doesn't exactly bode well for the quality of these commissions if they couldn't even correctly figure out 38*3:

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    JfR got a reaction from Comrade 86 in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    Pretty sure that's the Everton fans...
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    JfR got a reaction from IslandExile in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    https://www.premierleague.com/news/3936397
    "Nottingham Forest was referred to an independent Commission on 15 January, following an admission by the club that it had breached the relevant PSR threshold of £61 million by £34.5 million"
    How the hell is a £34.5m breach a 4 point deduction!?
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    JfR got a reaction from Crewton in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    So having read through the decision, I think this works as a quick summary of why it was 4 points:
    Commission found that the "entry point" for any "significant" breach of the spending limits is 3 points In Everton's case this was increased up to 6 points for two aggravating factors: One being the scale of the breach (£19.5m, or 19% of their threshold), the other being that they had been found in their appeal to have supplied some "incorrect" information to the Premier League (which the Premier League originally presented as Everton "misleading" them. The finding of "incorrect" rather than "misleading" is important). In Forest's case, the aggravating factor was solely the scale of their breach, albeit this was both numerically and proportionally much higher than Everton's (£34.5m, or 57% of their threshold; alternatively, a breach 77% higher than Everton's). While the Premier League argued that this should correspond to a 5 point increase in the deduction, raising the points deduction up to a total of 8 points, the commission disagreed. This was in large part because the Premier League has no "fixed formula" for points deductions based on the size of a breach, and that an insolvency event would result in a 9 point deduction. There's a lot of explanation for why they came to this decision, but effectively, the commission concluded that, as Forest's breach was a "significant" breach not a "major" breach (i.e. one involving insolvency), the absolute upper threshold that any club who makes a "significant" breach would expect (without major and unusual aggravating circumstances) would be 8 points, as insolvency would represent the absolute worst case scenario for failing to adhere to profit and sustainability. They also concluded that Forest were unlikely to be the largest ever Premier League breach, and therefore they shouldn't be punished at the absolute highest end of the scale. Instead, the commission decided that the level of breach should correspond to a 3 point increase to the deduction, raising to total deduction to 6 points. Forest were found to have had two mitigating factors in their favour: that they admitted the breach early on, and that they complied with the Premier League. As such, the commission reduced their deduction by 2 points, taking the total deduction to 4 points. So, basically, you can overspend by as much as you want in the Premier League, and as long as you don't do anything too egregious alongside it, you'll lose no more than 8 points.
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    JfR got a reaction from Crewton in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    https://www.premierleague.com/news/3936397
    "Nottingham Forest was referred to an independent Commission on 15 January, following an admission by the club that it had breached the relevant PSR threshold of £61 million by £34.5 million"
    How the hell is a £34.5m breach a 4 point deduction!?
  16. Haha
    JfR got a reaction from Crewton in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    Did have to smirk at this. Doesn't exactly bode well for the quality of these commissions if they couldn't even correctly figure out 38*3:

  17. Haha
    JfR got a reaction from Anon in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    Did have to smirk at this. Doesn't exactly bode well for the quality of these commissions if they couldn't even correctly figure out 38*3:

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    JfR got a reaction from MarsdenRam in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    https://www.premierleague.com/news/3936397
    "Nottingham Forest was referred to an independent Commission on 15 January, following an admission by the club that it had breached the relevant PSR threshold of £61 million by £34.5 million"
    How the hell is a £34.5m breach a 4 point deduction!?
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    JfR got a reaction from Carnero in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    https://www.premierleague.com/news/3936397
    "Nottingham Forest was referred to an independent Commission on 15 January, following an admission by the club that it had breached the relevant PSR threshold of £61 million by £34.5 million"
    How the hell is a £34.5m breach a 4 point deduction!?
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    JfR got a reaction from RadioactiveWaste in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    Athletic reporting it should be Monday
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    JfR got a reaction from Van der MoodHoover in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.   
    Athletic reporting it should be Monday
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    JfR got a reaction from TigerTedd in Reading Owner Sells Training Ground to Wycombe Wanderers   
    Name a more iconic duo than Wycombe Wanderers and exploiting other clubs' financial crises:
    https://theathletic.com/5339939/2024/03/13/wycombe-reading-training-ground-bearwood-park/
    Pretty much puts the breaks on any possible takeover, as that was the last real asset they had left
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    JfR got a reaction from TimRam in Live football thread.   
    Absolutely insane end to this Wolverhampton/Coventry game. Coventry lead until the 83rd minute, Wolverhampton scored twice to take the lead by the 88th minute, only for Coventry to score twice in injury time to win.
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    JfR got a reaction from Ram-Alf in Reading Owner Sells Training Ground to Wycombe Wanderers   
    https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-wycombe-rob-couhig-7512397
    "We have arrived at an economic money settlement that was conditional on how much their assets ultimately got sold for."
    "We are making our economic plans with the assumption that the money we got...and I cannot tell you the amount, but I can tell you it was well worth the money we spent to go get it."
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    JfR got a reaction from Crewton in Reading Owner Sells Training Ground to Wycombe Wanderers   
    Name a more iconic duo than Wycombe Wanderers and exploiting other clubs' financial crises:
    https://theathletic.com/5339939/2024/03/13/wycombe-reading-training-ground-bearwood-park/
    Pretty much puts the breaks on any possible takeover, as that was the last real asset they had left
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