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How about simply insisting Derby desist from using ERV policies in 2017/18 when this situation first arose. Had their checks and balances team done their jobs when reviewing the first set of accounts where residual values were used, there'd have been no need for two years of costly litigation. When Maguire first emailed them to highlight Derby's accounts, they wrote back stating they could not comment on said accounts (despite them being in the public domain) and that they perform 'multiple checks' themselves, the implication being that the didn't need his advice. They even suggesting he contact the team responsible himself if he wished to pursue the matter further! It is their staggering incompetence that led to millions being spent, though getting Parry to admit as much is a thankless task. 

I just can't believe how much scrutiny he is opening them up to.
The IDC ruled we were compliant with FRS102. Parry is saying that the LAP did not rule on it. So the question he must answer is...on what basis were DCFC ordered to resubmit their accounts, using a rule (which they have since confirmed) was not in place?

Its also providing them plenty of rope to hang themselves with.
The more they can be coaxed into telling lies and highlighting their own failures, the more the pressure us going to be ramped up on them.

Damn right.
Had they just been applying their rules then I would have no problem and would be aiming my anger at MM.
However, the way they make the rules up as they go along, move the goalposts and so blatantly lie, makes them deserve everything that is being thrown their way. 

I assume something along the lines of 'you're doing a great job guys, keep up the good work (and ignore the spleen venters)'

To be honest duck the EFL .
 

What would your message to them be Kevin? 

Just skimmed through maybe 50 pages and here's my summary: 
- We have one atypical case of Stockholm syndrome 
- FFS EFL 
- Note to R. Parry: When you're in a hole, stop digging.

It's not the quality of the messages to Parry that are concerning me. It's the quality (or lack of it) of the responses from Parry that is very concerning indeed.

Me every time I decide to just read the last page on this thread.

He's Norfolking longer with us.........

You're in the wrong stand. All our hand dryers are working, plenty of soap and even the overhead heaters are on.
#eaststandproblems

Soap dispensers at a football match?
The middle classes have ruined the game.
#popsidebogsneverdidmenoharm
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I certainly never thought Rooney was a football genius. I don’t think he had a trick in his locker or had the capacity to make an opponent look silly. Best, Gazza, Le Tissier, Hoddle were all blessed with great vision and ability. Rooney is not in that class. But what he’s always had is the determination and winning mentality. It’s almost like his life depends on it and I don’t think I’ve seen an English player care more, ever. It’s this that sets Rooney apart and makes him an all time great.
He has shown as a manger that he won’t accept lack of effort as he shipped out Marriott and Holmes in short order. What we’ve all seen from his team is total commitment. We’ve not seen that at Derby for years and that is down to Rooney’s uncompromising view of how football should be played.
We know staying up is a very difficult task but we also know it won’t be due to lack of effort
 

I think the amount paid by MM to Gibbo will be kept very close and may not even be written anywhere except on a bank transfer. The EFl may for certainty of funding purposes need to see a piece of paper signed by Gibbo confirming his vile claim has been dropped but there’s no reason that needs to refer to the amount he has extorted 

Perhaps the ********* should realise that anything good related to their shitty club revolves around Derby County .  Rioch and Todd as managers saving their arse in the 80's.  Mcclaren taking them to two cup finals.  Riggott scoring in the 89th minute in the UEFA cup semi final.   Christ, we even let them have Steve Bloomer for a couple of years till he came back home because it was poo.  We own Middlesbrough's history.  They should be on their knees in devotion to the Mighty Rams for giving them a reason to exist. 

Perhaps we should just refer to him as Saint Steve.

Exactly. Especially as they reckon they hadn’t seen the original claim because it was confidential between the two clubs!

Exactly. Especially as they reckon they hadn’t seen the original claim because it was confidential between the two clubs!

Derby’s amortisation policy was disclosed in 2017 in the notes and Efl were aware of how it worked. Maguire further drew their attention to it in 2018. 
 

Had a similar response to my email to which I have responded as follows, with Margaret Beckett again CC'd:
Dear Mr Parry,
You infer that bar Derby County, every club in the country adheres to straight line amortisation policies – this is simply not true and it’s staggering that you would suggest as much. In 2015/16 Aston Villa were relegated from the Premier League, which allows a P & S loss of £105 million over three years, which then tapers down to £39 million over three years in the EFL Championship. It was therefore in Villa’s interests to put as many costs into their 2015/16 accounts to be absorbed by their Premier League P & S limit. Villa achieved this by charging an extra £79.6 million as a cost in the expense for impairment of the stadium and players (labelled ‘intangible assets’ in their accounts). No investigation was deemed necessary and no sanctions applied. There are too many other instances to list so I simply offer this particular one to illustrate that where the juggling of player values is concerned, there is one rule for Derby and another for everyone else.

If, as you claim, this amendment has been introduced ‘so there is no room for doubt’, does this not clearly infer there was doubt at the time the policy was in use? And given this has now been highlighted as a rather grey area, do you still maintain the sanctions applied are fair and fitting? Might I also ask what the EFL stance is on club’s selling their debts? Likewise, the pricing of players moving between clubs under the same ownership? The fact is that the EFL has spent over 2 years and no small amount of member club funds bringing Derby to task when a simple amendment, akin to that applied this week, could have been made as early as 2018 along with a request that Derby adopt a straight-line amortisation policy from thereon out.
It is also worth pointing out that the EFL, who claim to have ‘several accounts monitoring practices in place’ was made aware of the fact Derby County were using the ERV amortisation policy in 2018, yet chose not to bring this up with the club itself until 2020 by which time the relevant P & S period had closed. Had you not delayed the process until the 3-year period had elapsed, Derby would have been in a position to address the P & S threshold breaches through player sales or other means. Waiting until 2020, when the EFL was itself under threat of litigation from Middlesbrough FC, meant that Derby were not afforded any opportunity to bring either their accounting practices or their FFP overspend into line. With these facts in mind, I ask you again, do you still maintain the sanctions applied to Derby are fair and fitting?

Frankly, if the EFL is to retain even a shred of credibility, the sanctions applied to Derby County need to be reviewed immediately as the punishments far outweigh the ‘crime’. Failure to do so would result in the not unfair assumption that the current EFL board has brought the League into disrepute and that as such, those in question ought to be considering whether or not their positions remain tenable.
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The way I see it, this is absolutely NOT the time to be easing up on these clowns. Their actions this week yet again compromise the club's chances of survival in the Championship and as long as they continue to act in this fashion, we must keep boots firmly on their throats.
We fight to the end!
 
 

Think you’ll find the process will move fast now to further confirm that Gibson WAS the main stumbling block and until last week was pushing our club closer to extinction with his completely and utterly ridiculous claim which most of the football world disagrees with.
Completely understand why Boro fans laud him. As an owner of your club he has given you incredible backing and stood behind you for 35+ years, he bankrolled you to a league cup win and a European final. I can’t think of a more committed owner in all my years of being a football supporter.
But the way he has pursued this vendetta against Derby has been disgraceful, the only thing possibly more disgusting is how the EFL has allowed him to do it. Saint Gibson was not trying to save football with his Stance he wanted to win his battle of egos with Mel Morris. Therefore while he has been an incredible owner for Boro, to Derby supporters he will always be the devil incarnate.

Exactly. Especially as they reckon they hadn’t seen the original claim because it was confidential between the two clubs!