NottsRammy

I would say now its at 40% . 

But alot of things can change that quite quickly . 

I dont think a loss to reading is the end of the world as lets not forget they themselves are not where they are . I dont look at reading you have to look above at cardiff etc etc reading will get out of it . 

Alot of things can stop Derby quite quickly such as long term injuries to old players being asked to play alot of games . 

We have a nucleus of players that have now gone into siege mentality and boy are they doing well . But i still cant explain where they were in the first half of barnsley away . 

Most will welcome off the field being solved and it has to be but spare a thought that could actually send us down . Being taken over will make it possible for new deals and new players .These new players will find it hard to slip into the required mind set and pressure that is now on every game we play . To many in football just happy to take a wage the rams have along way to go and for me if they do it .It will be the finest thing i have ever witnessed in football and make no mistake it might even make a hollywood script as you have to admit its all there and its true . 

Come on you rammmmmms !!

I dont mind Mr Kirchner at all but must admit Gadsby and Appleby teaming up does come across quite well . 

On 18/12/2021 at 00:11, uttoxram75 said:

All about opinions mate.

Mine is that Will is one of the best players i've seen in a Derby shirt and I go back to 1970. 

Wow jUST Wow 

He couldnt lay a finger on Ted McMin , George Williams  , John Gregory , Nigel Callaghan , Gary Micklewhite  and thats not even starting on the Clough / Mckay era . All about opinions but that is some statement jesus christ i need a heart bypass after reading that lol . 

Yes i know quite a few of those are wingers but you did say one of the BEST PLAYERS , he is nowhere near one of the best players absolutley nowhere near . 

39 minutes ago, David said:

Why is wanting to see a player do well from our academy embarrassing? 

I would say it's fairly normal football fan behaviour.

You know what im getting at im not saying that am i .

What im saying is people are making out that Hughes is alot better than he actually is , have very over inflated opinion of him . 

2 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Is Jordan Henderson overated too because he doesn't score enough goals for Liverpool or England?

The Will Hughes love in is embarrassing on here it really is , he is a decent footballer , but i think we have be so use to seeing utter rubbish for quite a few years the moment someone comes out of the academy with even a nouse how to pass the ball we all get over excited and put 20 million on him .

Look for a player like Hughes to be as good as a lot seem to think he is he needs to score a lot more goals and he needs to play alot more clever THROUGH balls instead of timmy tappy sideways getting nowhere passes . I have sat and watched him solely in games and the fact is he plays far to many safe passes .Mount before he broke into england and chelsea properly instantly showed what Hughes should be Will Hughes is a poor mans Mount . But i wish him all the best and wouldnt not be averse to him back with the rams eventually but i dont see him if he should return one day as the prodigal son who will save us and he has been the next Maradona . Think people need to get a grip on Will hughes . Neither Hughes or Hendrick have gone on to huge success which says it all doesnt it . 

The problem with Will Hughes is Derby fans have ALWAYS over rated him . I have sat and watched him loads , he doesnt score enough goals and his biggest problem is he is the maestro of the sideways safe pass nearly 95% of his time . Vastly and i mean vastly over rated by our own fans .

Cant believe this is still going on .

Keogh is Damn Captain that alone made him have EXTRA responsabilities ,should be sacked was sacked the fact he has won compo is unbelievable and down to Mel mistake of keeping the others .

Lawrence  Should have been sacked for god sake he RAN OFF leaving someone in a car that could have caught fire .

Bennett      Same as above 

Mel - Shocking handling of not sacking them all and has lead to Keogh winning his compo by keeping the younger 2 players . Mel was totally right to sack Keogh but he should have sacked them all . 

The whole sorry mess is still a mess and Keogh deserves NOTHING today in the sound of applause . 

And that now is it game over so now lets build for league 1 and stop pretending 

1 minute ago, PistoldPete said:

Dont forget Baldrick. He may be our cunning plan.

More likely to put it in our net with his goal scoring record . Love the post though made me chuckle that did .

If we actually won 3 games on the bounce everyone would start to get excited but you have to remember 1 long term injury to either of the 40 year olds playing in our backline and its curtains ( no not you curtains lol ) .

Thats not counting that we dont even have a proper striker . We have an old guy up front that aint now at his best and a young jack stretton learning his trade ..............come on get realistic people and stop torturing yourself and accept the lower league for a reset . 

Im an optimistic type of person usually but this is just ridiculous . 

On a personal level im really happy with CK , I want someone who will get fired up and interested , that transfers into he is more likely to get passionate about the club and invest .

This drop down could be the best thing that has happened to us but we dont see it now . 

It all depends on a fairly quick return anything over 2 years and things could get very sad . 

We surely do have an advantage if signing players relies on income generated we are one of the big fish now so should be able to offer and get the better lower league players to get us back up . But to do it in the first season when we will want basically an entire new team from top to the reserves will take some doing . An instant return is a very big ask because of the amount of players we have at the RIGHT AGE , i personally wouldnt be looking at davies , ckr , jags come on we need to move on and start again with a totally fresh group of faces .Not more of the same playing staff that will be full of the sorrows of past seasons passing their attitude on to the new players .Clear them all out they have nearly all gone anyway .Rooney really will have a blank canvas if he or whoever is manager next year . 

Dose of realism now needed i feel !! . 

Capt Tom plays 1 good match in 20 

We have 2 near 40 year olds at the heart of our defence 

We dont have a proper decent striker not one . 

We couldnt muster a proper go at barnsley which would have taken us above them in the first half at all ( this alone tells you everything you need to know ) 

Roll on the end of the season get us down , we are like a owner of a dog and that owner knows his dog should be taken to the vets to be put down ......hanging on in there hoping that when we get up the dog will be better . 

It doesnt matter if rooney stays or goes , would prefer him to stay for HIS SAKE and ours , think he has won alot of people over with his attitude .

Mr Curtis Davies a manager in waiting of DCFC . Hope he sticks around with us perm in the background until that day comes .

23 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

Glad we dropped 300k on that whilst making people redundant. Well done DCFC.

This is the only thing i dont get why make around 20 people jobless and spend 300k on an appeal you never went for thats quite shocking by the administrators .Other than that the admins have been brilliant . 

Now lets have news of the buyer through the door and lift the fans mood ready for next year . 

For GODS SAKE stop the whimpering and the crying .Yes we are down .But we are down now with our decks clean .Now lets clear out the remaining dross of some of our so called better football players that only try 1 in 12 match's , i wont name names . 

Start again with a new owner the accepting of the deduction is because to get new owners in by jan to prepare for league 1 and a bounce back hopefully .The rest of the season is over its just play who and what to see what they have got for league 1 . 

Our future starts now .

Thanks Mr Morris but you severely over stretched the gamble and will now NOT be well remembered at all . 

A german centre back ????? finally .

I think everyone really knows we are gone and just want it over with . 

What everyones really frightened of is if whoever is taking over doesnt want a league 1 pub team .

But thankfully at the moment Mr Kirchner has said it doesnt matter he is here for the long term .2 seasons soon go we could all be singing a very happy tune within 2 years from now . 

WE ARE Derby  and we wont disappear .But it might take more than a season to get out of L1 its a horrible place and we shouldnt have got out last time , a very dodgy refereeing decision in the shape of a brown envelope for cool as custard Mr Christie to plonk away if you ask me . 

4 minutes ago, Woodley Ram said:

lets put this into context.-12 really hard not to be relegated

additional -3 defiantly relegated

additional -9 makes no difference

additional -50 makes no difference

One note here, if you over spend, do it big and I mean by 10's of millions if not more because all you will get is -9 points. I think there is even more incentive to really overspend now. if buying a £60m strike force and a £20m midfielder will probably get you to the prem go for it. it will only cost 9 points if it dosnt happen

Unless its makes you go bust if it doesnt happen ? . 

9 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

We have not been charged with anything have we?

Blimey splitting hairs G STAR or what . O.k i got them the wrong way round .To clear it up which im pretty sure everyone bar you knows what i mean is the over spending we have to accept -9 to stop an appeal and getting it lessened . The 2nd offence which is actually the admin one ( which i put wrong in my 1st post ) will either be abolished or halved .

Blimey hope that clears it up . 

All this -21 is click bait and paper selling and the efl are happy with that is it looks better for the efl when it gets announced to get a takeover done there going to give us lea way under covid and either totally abolish the admin one or halve it .Giving us half a chance when we get players in in jan . 

My personal bet is -15 , which with how the current squad has played last few match's is more than enough to send us down .The facts are if you cant come out and play better against Barnsley than that we are DOWN !! . It wasnt the result that mattered it was the attitude in the 1st half , if you cant get the right mindset for that its all over .Jan with new players will come to late and Mr Rooney is still unproven when it comes to money and signing players .We are down and need to rebuild . 

Going exactly as i predicted remember we have to agree to -9 on the 2nd charge to stop us appealing and getting less . But in return we get the admin reduced under covid . Just wait and see it all play out . Sir pratt of boro will be happy but he will be hopping mad about admin fail . All being sorted behind closed doors i tell you . Independent panel my ar*e.

I predict -15 or only -9 . Its just being hyped up to sell articles as -21.

I cant help it i do have an image of Sir Prat of middlesboro sat around the efl round table with these two either side of him .

Chuckling away here lol . 

The reason the dummies are out is not because it was a defeat more importantly it was the manner of the defeat where certain players attitudes are called into question . If you cant go out at barnsley and play it like its the biggest game of dcfc lives then the writing is on the wall . Im afraid to say it still is we are 100% gone its better you accept it and move on to league 1 footy . Look at the huge lift it would have given everyone and thats the performance you get im not talking about the score . Its all over lets get the takeover done and prepare for next year asap .

Christ there is some thick feckers on here . Making lawrence capt instead of the blindingly obvious davies was rooneys idea of getting toms head straight by giving him  responsibility it isnt rocket science to see that . It hasnt worked give it back to our future manager mr davies . 

What a find most gob smacking of all is our fans thought we would actually stay up with 2 x 40 year olds at heart of our defence as good as they are they are not going to last a season . We cant replace with anyone any good enough said . 

Were we ever going to stay up two near 40 year olds at the back and a long season. 

The plus side is most of this lot will be gone next year the real struggle is getting straight back up div 3 is hell . We were lucky last time it was never a penalty against rothrham that night ........a clear case of a brown envelope. 

We are down yes . But what crossed my mind is the players know a deal is close now and there prob realising some of them only have a few weeks left at the club . 

Gone are the days of playing with pride although i dont put curtis davies in this bracket ( future manager ). 

I think a few have given up they know there out . Just get use now to div 3 and new owners and a new team . Sooner this season is over the better .