PistoldPete

Did they vote on the creditors meeting? That’s three Brit asombalongas worth . Which makes zero.

You have misunderstood on two points.
1) Derby's amortisation did  not increase the value during the contract, it only ever reduced from its initial value.
2) Acting in bad faith means : "in a dishonest and improper way : with no intention of honouring a promise".
 
There was no dishonesty on Derby's part they genuinely believed that the amortisation policy was within the rules (and still do , by the way) . It was disclosed in the accounts and any mis-statements in the notes were just sloppy and not intentional ,as the IDC confirmed. 
QPR on the oher hand deliberately overspent with no intention of sticking to FFP.

I have just given you the definition of bad faith and proved to you that it wasn't. And the IDC agreed. So why repeat your error?

No other club benefits from having Wayne Rooney. no other club benefits from playing at Pride Park. none of that makes it wrong. Or in "bad faith".    

What's @Ghost of Clough done to upset you mate? ?
 

You have misunderstood on two points.
1) Derby's amortisation did  not increase the value during the contract, it only ever reduced from its initial value.
2) Acting in bad faith means : "in a dishonest and improper way : with no intention of honouring a promise".
 
There was no dishonesty on Derby's part they genuinely believed that the amortisation policy was within the rules (and still do , by the way) . It was disclosed in the accounts and any mis-statements in the notes were just sloppy and not intentional ,as the IDC confirmed. 
QPR on the oher hand deliberately overspent with no intention of sticking to FFP.

Dear Mr Gibson.
Thank you for your claim.
We are sorry you didn't get promoted. Neither did we.

Please Send your bill to the other Stevie G, now newly installed as manager of Aston Villa.
We will add it to the rather larger sum we  are requesting from them, and see what they say.

Unfortunately you will not be eligible to partcipate in our claim against QPR but you could try a sponging off a few other big spending clubs like , er Middlesbro.. oh no that's you isnt it? . 
 
Yours as ever
Lawyer
 
 
 
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Is there any point in continuing meetings with them?

Oh how nostalgic. And listening to Graham Richards. (even though he is  Forest Fan). 
If there is anyone who still listens to radio Derby anymore , they would have to put up with Ed Dawes. Who presumably is also a Forest fan.
 

Oh how nostalgic. And listening to Graham Richards. (even though he is  Forest Fan). 
If there is anyone who still listens to radio Derby anymore , they would have to put up with Ed Dawes. Who presumably is also a Forest fan.
 

Dear Mr Gibson.
Thank you for your claim.
We are sorry you didn't get promoted. Neither did we.

Please Send your bill to the other Stevie G, now newly installed as manager of Aston Villa.
We will add it to the rather larger sum we  are requesting from them, and see what they say.

Unfortunately you will not be eligible to partcipate in our claim against QPR but you could try a sponging off a few other big spending clubs like , er Middlesbro.. oh no that's you isnt it? . 
 
Yours as ever
Lawyer
 
 
 
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Dear Mr Gibson.
Thank you for your claim.
We are sorry you didn't get promoted. Neither did we.

Please Send your bill to the other Stevie G, now newly installed as manager of Aston Villa.
We will add it to the rather larger sum we  are requesting from them, and see what they say.

Unfortunately you will not be eligible to partcipate in our claim against QPR but you could try a sponging off a few other big spending clubs like , er Middlesbro.. oh no that's you isnt it? . 
 
Yours as ever
Lawyer
 
 
 
.
 
 

Dear Mr Gibson.
Thank you for your claim.
We are sorry you didn't get promoted. Neither did we.

Please Send your bill to the other Stevie G, now newly installed as manager of Aston Villa.
We will add it to the rather larger sum we  are requesting from them, and see what they say.

Unfortunately you will not be eligible to partcipate in our claim against QPR but you could try a sponging off a few other big spending clubs like , er Middlesbro.. oh no that's you isnt it? . 
 
Yours as ever
Lawyer
 
 
 
.
 
 

Dear Mr Gibson.
Thank you for your claim.
We are sorry you didn't get promoted. Neither did we.

Please Send your bill to the other Stevie G, now newly installed as manager of Aston Villa.
We will add it to the rather larger sum we  are requesting from them, and see what they say.

Unfortunately you will not be eligible to partcipate in our claim against QPR but you could try a sponging off a few other big spending clubs like , er Middlesbro.. oh no that's you isnt it? . 
 
Yours as ever
Lawyer
 
 
 
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So being upfront about it or blatant is a help? Not knowing you have broken any rules because your auditors said it was ok is a hindrance? That’s not how I read our IDC findings.
and reading get off lightly because their owners are super rich? Whereas we get punished more because we are broke?
ok maybe I need to start learning more from this school of logic.

Brentford used data analytics to get around FFP. They sold players to get around FFP. As far as I know they are both within the rules and so is selling the stadium and amortising player values.

So being upfront about it or blatant is a help? Not knowing you have broken any rules because your auditors said it was ok is a hindrance? That’s not how I read our IDC findings.
and reading get off lightly because their owners are super rich? Whereas we get punished more because we are broke?
ok maybe I need to start learning more from this school of logic.

Oh good . Yes we have a World Cup too . Maybe go on a cruise til then

Good news, buddy!
July 30th!
... It'll fly by!  ?

And even if he could do all these things he wouldn’t get any money anyway as we are broke.

Admin team Took lessons from Ridsdale on negotiations. Surprise everyone by trying to go higher than the other side was ever expecting. 

No. Half right. We haven't broken any rules but we have been charged.

Dirty Leeds as usual. Oh and by the way still the only thing we have been found guilty of was something worth a fine of £100k . Less than Leeds for their spygate.

But none of that is acting in bad faith. If we or rather Pearce (and our auditors) at most made an honest mistake on the amortisation issue then any consequent breaches of ffp rules are also made due to the same honest mistake. 
 
I think not paying people because you don’t have the money or thought someone else had agreed to pay is also not acting in bad faith.
For example I would certainly say QPR spending what they liked to get promoted is acting in bad faith because they must have known they were breaking the rules it was a wilful act.

Sir you obviously make up for the lack of quantity of your posts with the sheer quality of this one .Absolutely spot on.

I think some of us were at that point a long time ago, plus COVID a of course has had. Massive effect.
I think the admin team need to find a buyer quick if they are not to be added to the list of contributors.