Barney1991

6 home games left, time for the fans to fully get behind the team no matter what is happening on the pitch, the formation or whether you like Warne or not. 

I’ve actually rated warne a lot through the season. When we had the purple patch and he picked a more front thinking team and took the game to the opposition and made forward thinking subs. Played 4 at the back. Since posh on New Year’s Day he has reverted back to the end of last season where he has become overly negative in games and sets us up depending on what the opposition does and tries to hold on to a goal lead from the start of the second half. The warning sign was theee when Charlton hit the post from a corner and started to gain control and he did nothing to try and get a foothold again to get us up the pitch when we couldn’t get out 

Derby fans on Saturday when vale score 

I’ve actually rated warne a lot through the season. When we had the purple patch and he picked a more front thinking team and took the game to the opposition and made forward thinking subs. Played 4 at the back. Since posh on New Year’s Day he has reverted back to the end of last season where he has become overly negative in games and sets us up depending on what the opposition does and tries to hold on to a goal lead from the start of the second half. The warning sign was theee when Charlton hit the post from a corner and started to gain control and he did nothing to try and get a foothold again to get us up the pitch when we couldn’t get out 

Derby fans on Saturday when vale score 

I get that, I’m well aware of his tactical limitations having watched the majority of games during his tenure and passed comment on it myself before, no argument there.
It was more the point that you’d made 4 or 5 posts in fairly quick succession on the matchday thread all carrying not so subtle digs at Warne, I felt by acknowledging your posts you’d maybe feel your point had been made and we could get away from that sentiment for a bit.

I’ve actually rated warne a lot through the season. When we had the purple patch and he picked a more front thinking team and took the game to the opposition and made forward thinking subs. Played 4 at the back. Since posh on New Year’s Day he has reverted back to the end of last season where he has become overly negative in games and sets us up depending on what the opposition does and tries to hold on to a goal lead from the start of the second half. The warning sign was theee when Charlton hit the post from a corner and started to gain control and he did nothing to try and get a foothold again to get us up the pitch when we couldn’t get out 

I’ve actually rated warne a lot through the season. When we had the purple patch and he picked a more front thinking team and took the game to the opposition and made forward thinking subs. Played 4 at the back. Since posh on New Year’s Day he has reverted back to the end of last season where he has become overly negative in games and sets us up depending on what the opposition does and tries to hold on to a goal lead from the start of the second half. The warning sign was theee when Charlton hit the post from a corner and started to gain control and he did nothing to try and get a foothold again to get us up the pitch when we couldn’t get out 

About mindset....why does he continually say the opposition "are a good team", "its going to be a hard game" etc etc etc...how about, "we are a good team and we will win"
Stop worrying about them and concentrate on being good at what we can do!!!

I agree with this, as all managers will say things differently in the dressing room. So we can only go by what we see on the pitch.
Going to 5 at the back after scoring. Ignoring midfield as the opposition are "too good" to match up to. Sitting deeper as a match goes on. Leaving it far too late in matches to make changes. Having the last 10 mins of matches be a frantic game of "throw the kitchen sink at it" after spending 80 minutes not bothering to attack.
The above all adds weight to the argument that we do worry a bit too much about the opposition, rather than take the game to them. It's that football cliche of giving the opponent too much respect when you come up against bigger teams. Except we do it against effing Crewe.
I understand that everyone sees the game differently, and what I see as negative might be seen as prudent by others. I'm just an old romantic, and I want some risk and excitement in my football. I hate the percentage game. I want to be on the edge of my seat. Hopefully today gives us all some of that.

We got it from all the other posts you’ve made in this thread today, you don’t rate Warne and you don’t think he’ll pick a good team or set us up to win. You don’t need to keep repeating it, we hear you, others have seen the posts I’m sure, I’m openly acknowledging it, hopefully you feel validated now.

Derby fans at 14:00pm when the starting line up comes out with a back 4 

 
half time 1 nil up and we go 3 at the back with wingbacks to hold on 

Derby fans at 14:00pm when the starting line up comes out with a back 4 

 
half time 1 nil up and we go 3 at the back with wingbacks to hold on 

Pre match press conference just in. Port vale are a good team with good players we have to match them. I’ll sort the formation and tactics depending on what they do and we need to start feeling good about ourselves and come away feeling handsome 

Derby fans at 14:00pm when the starting line up comes out with a back 4 

 
half time 1 nil up and we go 3 at the back with wingbacks to hold on 

Derby fans at 14:00pm when the starting line up comes out with a back 4 

 
half time 1 nil up and we go 3 at the back with wingbacks to hold on 

Derby fans at 14:00pm when the starting line up comes out with a back 4 

 
half time 1 nil up and we go 3 at the back with wingbacks to hold on 

Derby fans on Saturday when vale score 

Derby fans on Saturday when vale score 

His recruitment has been spot on 

His recruitment has been spot on 

His recruitment has been spot on 

Pre match press conference just in. Port vale are a good team with good players we have to match them. I’ll sort the formation and tactics depending on what they do and we need to start feeling good about ourselves and come away feeling handsome 

I really liked the theory that was laid out in the final couple of years of Mel’s tenure (frightening sentence, I know). The idea that over half the first team would be made up of academy players, with high quality loans to cover shorter term gaps and good signings brought in to cover areas where there were no players coming through. I thought this was quite a good model in the modern day. It would attract youngsters with high ceilings to the club as their was a clear path to the first team, build confidence with other clubs to lend us their best talent, and allow us to spend decent money on players as academy players would be pure profit. It seemed to align academy with first team and present a good vision for a modern sustainable football club. 
 
I think we were maybe a couple of seasons from seeing it come to fruition too. We were looking at having a team/squad with the potential of having Knight, Bird, Sibley, Thompson, Delap, Gordon, Kellyman, Cashin, Ebosele, Buchanan, Whitaker, Plange, and Williams all drawn from our own academy in it. We all know why it never happened, and the initial idea behind it may have been pushed by outside factors, but looking at the idea on paper it showed a club well aligned in philosophy, both in development and recruitment.
At the moment I don’t really know what the plan is. Academy players don’t seem to be anywhere near it. That might be due to the club being gutted and them not being to the standard but they never seem to be given a chance. The recruitment seems to be focused on older players, but they don’t appear to fit a system. Cocu spoke about having all teams playing the same way so younger players can step up, which seems really sensible, but currently our first team doesn’t seem to have a consistent way of playing let alone something aligned through the age groups. I think we could do with really setting out a clear goal and a philosophy and working towards it. It would really allow supporters to buy into the vision and direction. Build trust and patience. And, as I think supporters often back their academy graduates the most, really build a unity between team and fans.