Stive Pesley

it's needlessly divisive isn't it? on one side you have people willing to make a scene and start having a go at people not wearing masks, then you have the people like I saw last week walking maskless around the Intu intimidating people who dared to look at them. No one even spoke to them and they were picking on people saying "what you effin looking at? should I be wearing a mask like you, ya twit?" etc
squaring up to people minding their own business
Sadly some people just seem to want to kick off about it, when we all just need to respect each other and not make a fuss. We're British dammit! ?

it's needlessly divisive isn't it? on one side you have people willing to make a scene and start having a go at people not wearing masks, then you have the people like I saw last week walking maskless around the Intu intimidating people who dared to look at them. No one even spoke to them and they were picking on people saying "what you effin looking at? should I be wearing a mask like you, ya twit?" etc
squaring up to people minding their own business
Sadly some people just seem to want to kick off about it, when we all just need to respect each other and not make a fuss. We're British dammit! ?

44k cases announced today. 46k yesterday was lower than expected (there's usually a spike on Tuesdays, after the weekend) and lower than the 7 day rolling average. Are we seeing a plateau / peak?
Somewhat surprising also with all the socialising around the football etc that the cases haven't accelerated in the last few days.
Bloody hope so anyway. Then all the talk about vaccine passports becomes unneccesary.
 
*waits for 60k cases to be announced tomorrow*

Very Flesh Gordon, I agree....

I drew a similar rocket 30 years ago in GCSE Art.
The only place it took me was the headmasters office.

can we all just take a moment to ponder the gloriously Freudian design of Jeff Bezos's rocket?
I mean they all kinda look phallic anyway by design, but seriously...

 
 

I think it says a lot about the current situation that even those of us like our good selves, who usually have no problem finding something to disagree about, are equally baffled by it all.
The nightclub/vaxpass thing is clearly a blunt instrument to try and drive up vaccination rates amongst young adults. It's so mind-bendingly illogical in every other way. But it's a very bad move to try and coerce people into having it by threatening to remove their ability to have fun
 
 
 
 
 

By way of explanation - from the BBC feed...
Reports of vaccinated people ending up in hospital causes alarm.
On Monday, chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance revealed that around 60% of hospitalisations were among people who are unvaccinated.
So that means for every 60 unvaccinated people hospitalised, about 40 who have been vaccinated are also ending up in hospital. Does that mean the vaccines are not working very well? Absolutely not.
That’s because for every 60 unvaccinated people, there are about 440 vaccinated adults in the population.
So that means the numbers of vaccinated people in hospital are at least 10 times lower than they would be if the vaccines did not work at all.
The 60:40 ratio therefore suggests the vaccines are a little over 90% effective at keeping people out of hospital.
But the news is even better than that. The figures are skewed by the fact the people who are most likely to be unvaccinated are the younger age groups - the ones least likely to end up in hospital.
If you factor that in the vaccines look to be well above 90% effective at keeping people out of hospital – bang in line with what all the research suggests.

What did the mathematician do when he was constipated?

People go to nightclubs to have fun? ducking hell!
I get that people go to a nightclub in the hopes of finding someone to have fun with later on in the evening, but fun in the nightclub itself (excluding occasional moments of fun in a toilet cubicle)? 
Personally I'd rase them all to the ground and imprison anyone who thinks of them as an enjoyable place to be for their crimes against taste, then we wouldn't have this problem with vaccine passports to contend with.

I think it says a lot about the current situation that even those of us like our good selves, who usually have no problem finding something to disagree about, are equally baffled by it all.
The nightclub/vaxpass thing is clearly a blunt instrument to try and drive up vaccination rates amongst young adults. It's so mind-bendingly illogical in every other way. But it's a very bad move to try and coerce people into having it by threatening to remove their ability to have fun
 
 
 
 
 

Correct. But that's due to lockdowns we have had.
 
Thats incorrect. Exponential means proportional to the thing itself. Over the last 4 to 5 weeks infections have been growing at a pretty consistent rate of around 50% a week. That's exactly what an exponential increase means.

We almost certainly will - because it's an highly infectious disease with an exponential growth rate.
I suppose this is the moment where things get proven one way of another
If we have a tenfold increase but serious illness and death remains low, then how can we justify more lockdowns?
But the second the modelling on that shows the NHS being threatened again, how can we NOT?
 
 

We almost certainly will - because it's an highly infectious disease with an exponential growth rate.
I suppose this is the moment where things get proven one way of another
If we have a tenfold increase but serious illness and death remains low, then how can we justify more lockdowns?
But the second the modelling on that shows the NHS being threatened again, how can we NOT?
 
 

I'm currently now the only person in the house not isolating due to a covid contact.
The school bubble is closed because a kid in his class had it. Mild symptoms (that any other time you would pass off as a "bit of a cold") lasted 24 hours. Child was already fine before the PCR test result came through
Missus got pinged because she'd been sat in a friend's garden last week, at least 2m apart and said friend (double jabbed) has now tested positive. Again - her symptoms are so mild she nearly didn't bother getting tested, but her husband works in frontline NHS so they did it to be on the safe side
It's getting a bit silly isn't it

We almost certainly will - because it's an highly infectious disease with an exponential growth rate.
I suppose this is the moment where things get proven one way of another
If we have a tenfold increase but serious illness and death remains low, then how can we justify more lockdowns?
But the second the modelling on that shows the NHS being threatened again, how can we NOT?
 
 

It's July 19th 2021, Freedom Day - close this bloody thread. 

Unless you're in the NW where I believe that owing to Covid average life expectancy has dropped a fair bit.

Average male life expectancy in the UK is 81
I'm 50 , so I've only got about another 7 world cups left ?

Nah, when you add your cards to Apple Pay or Google Pay, it creates the same information which is what is on a contactless card on the NFC chip in the phone. No signal required.

No, you don’t. Not sure how they work it, I assume it just records the transaction then updates you’re bank account next time it’s got connection. But theoretically you could have a fiver in your account, turn the internet off your phone and then spend loads and go massively overdrawn. 

Middle-aged man health check? I hope you get the thumbs-up 

Middle-aged man health check? I hope you get the thumbs-up 

I think the first, most obvious thing that will change will be an end to interest on savings. If you can't put it under the mattress, they will stop incentivising interest on your bank savings. 
Then will be a monthly charge for your account. The banks can charge you for holding your money. What could you do about it?