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37 minutes ago, Angry Ram said:

My hope is that this meeting turns out to be open and fair. If Morris bullshits I would want him challenged, he and Pearce have some real questions to answer but it has to be done in the right way. A bunch of yes men around the table is not going to help.. For the record, I don’t know any of the participants, so have no idea IF they are yes men..

Direct questions, direct answers. Morris bumbling on about how ticket prices not paying the bills when not adding other revenue streams into the equation and not being challenged, pathetic.

Mate, ya can't use terms like 'open and fair' and then in the same paragraph use terms like '********', 'want him challenged', 'bumbling', etc - that's not open and fair. To be open and fair requires both sides to be open minded and listen to what the other has to say. Would you respond well to being challenged as you suggest Mel should be? I imagine not so why should he. This needs to be a sensible discussion so we understand what's gone on, what the latest is, etc. I'm not defending him, etc - just saying that you can't have it all ways.

On 24/07/2021 at 22:57, GenBr said:

You are entitled to you opinion and perhaps you have lower standards, but i don't share your view. Just because you are "Derby thru and thru" doesn't put you beyond criticism. What is the point of a couple of years of above average performance if you then almost ruin the club and yourself and usher in almost 30 years of decline thanks to your mistakes. A brief period of success does not erase the fact that he was ultimately a failure - exactly the same as the tenure of Mel Morris.

Lower standards? You said you're too young to remember the TBE era so you're used to a much lower standard of football than I enjoyed so it's not about standards youth. If you mean standards in terms of the way the club is run then let's be real. You really have no idea what's going on behind the scenes, all the twists and turns, financials, agendas, etc, etc and as you grow-up you'll realise that it's easy to just sit and judge expecting 'better' but that's not how life is. 

At no point did I say they were beyond criticism but you don't know your history nor do you know what's really going on now - none of us do. You're all indignant and full of pomp criticising a highly successful self-made millionaire and board of other professionals like you have a clue about what's really going on - ya don't - you're just a fan with an opinion based on very little fact. 

As you say, we won't agree because you clearly know it all and I'm just a dinosaur so I'll go back to my low standards.

22 minutes ago, GenBr said:

The club was at risk of destruction under the three amigos and is now at risk again. Doesn't matter what the original intentions were. 

I wasn't old enough when Pickering was in charge, but if he piddled all of his money away and left the club penniless then yes he was a failure.

<sigh>Asanovic, Stimac, DPFG, Carsley, etc etc - the best times being a Derby fan since the 70’s mate. Mr Pickering was not a fkn failure, he was Derby thru and thru. Wash your mouth out and have some respect. 

10 hours ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu&#x27;sNesta said:

Intentions are irrelevant in my mind if the end result is almost the same.

Blimey. That's harsh. So you're saying Mel is no better for this club than The Three Amigos? That's like saying Lionel was a failure (well, same ballpark) as he and we were also penniless at the end of his tenure and he pretty much took the same risks.

2 hours ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu&#x27;sNesta said:

The three amigos maliciously messed the club up, Mel and Pearce have blundered in to it whilst trying to push us on.

The end result isn't much different, so I don't see why Mel should get a free pass to be honest.

 

Because his intentions were good. The Three Amigos carried out illegal activity and went to jail for it. Mel took a shot for the moon… <insert inspiring quote about ambition and potential failure here>

8 hours ago, JustOneBiblicalKazim said:

Roos gets far too much stick, he’s a decent keeper who has erratic moments.

Just what you want from a keeper…. 

8 hours ago, mwram1973 said:

What absolute rubbish.

Mark my words - he’ll come to ‘nowt. He’ll never play at a higher level than this. 

On 29/06/2021 at 15:55, Macintosh said:

It's the other way round, Football Manager copies that website and have for half a decade.

So why does it has the same positions and players as the starting squads as Fifa 2020? ?

I don't believe it for a minute. 

Question is; is he better than Roos? We all know the answer to that... (because anyone is better than Roos)

I've thought about this a bit and changed my opinion. The alternative fixture list is just a sop to the pitchfork-wielders. The EFL will appeal this ruling and the outcome will be a £200k fine or something and that'll be the end of it because it'll have all dragged on so long, it's too difficult to do anything else. Reason being that the EFL signed-off both of the two key issues so are as culpable as we are.

Yep, that's blind optimism right there!

Just a thought but filing accounts is a legal requirement for HMRC. EFL, no matter who they think they are, do not have the same powers as HMRC so I'm not sure that, legally speaking, DCFC are obliged to re-file. They could generate a new set of accounts based on the preferred practises of the EFL for the EFL but legally, they're not allowed to instruct DCFC to re-submit accounts - only the HMRC can do that. Obviously they can do under the guise of membership to the league, etc but they don't have the legal standing to demand that sort of stuff.

And it is very obviously a set-up. As soon as the new accounts are submitted, based on 'normal' amortisation, then they'll come back at us and gives us a points deduction - they have to to save face. This is gonna rumble on for ages and as has been said, it's a massive cloud over the club for both us and potential signings. This is already damaging enough so there needs to be some mediation here to get it done and dusted. 

The EFL are utterly feckless. Despite thinking they're hard and tough, they're just playing at it. If they really wanted to nip this whole thing in the bud then kick us out of the league to stop it happening again. At times, I think I'd rather than than this death by a thousand cuts.  

Our club statement appears to be written by someone that has a clue - brief and well constructed yet still makes the EFL look like the dimwits they are.

I think the longer it goes on the less likely automatic relegation would be. I suspect it'll be 3 or 6 points deduction at the end of it all but assuming the appeal doesn't go through until after this season kicks off surely it has to be apply to next season as we need all the points we can get this season!

It would be ironic if we went up this season as the points deduction technically wouldn't be enforceable unless the Premier League agreed to it (I think).

Danny Higgingbotham - played left back on his debut (IIRC) and was shocking. Eventually went to CB and was excellent.

Also, didn't realise until now that Ron Willems retired at 31 with us as his last club. Didn't know that...

Finally, having now cast my mind back, I recall how disappointed I was with the deadline day signing of Mikkel Beck. I'm still shocked now - TBE's worst signing perhaps? He was proven in this country. Proven to be awful whereas someone like BoB or whatever at least seemed ok in their own leagues so an understandable risk that didn't work out over here.

2 hours ago, Tyler Durden said:

Can't you see how ironic and ridiculous your post is - you state that how anyone can get on their high horse without knowing the full story yet you yourself are also not in possession of the full facts unless you have some inside line to the happenings within Derby

You have also made a huge assumption by stating that there must have been a good reason with the facts they have - pray tell what were the facts as they aren't in the public domain?

 

I have no idea what you’re on about or why you’re so hostile but I’m talking about facts boy. The fact is he was sacked and the club felt they had good (legal) reasons to do so.  
 

I never got on a high horse nor claimed to know anything. Calm down chap. 

17 hours ago, RamNut said:

How many pints does it take to achieve the alcohol level that Lawrence had? Someone suggested it was as low as four? Who knows? If you think about it maybe keogh wasn’t aware that TL was over the limit. Maybe they weren’t sat together. The players were apparently in groups.    No-one would get in the car of a clearly intoxicated driver. So why assume that keogh was pissed or that he was aware that TL was pissed. Too many assumptions and guesses.

We don’t know for sure what happened but the club do and they’ve decided to sack him so there was good reason with the facts they have. 
 

There’s so much we don’t know yet people on here are slating the club and Mel - ridiculous.  How anyone can, without knowing the full story, get on their high horse is beyond me.