Jimbo Ram

Sorry.. Missed a "don't" in the final paragraph. 
I don't think we'll improve with Wazza. 

I concur but I would say very trying. ?
Nah, seriously, best of luck to them on Saturday. ? 

Perhaps some fans were willing to give Cocu a bit of time as under the circumstances he had done quite well in his first season. I was one of the last man standing in support of Cocu but could understand the reasons why a lot of fans wanted him gone and accepted it in the end. What I totally fail to understand is fans that wanted Cocu out but somehow still want Rooney in......can't for the life of me get my head around that total contradiction.....

I agree Roy Mac has been consistent in his support for Wazza, but the whole point is that that is totally inconsistent and at odds with his stance on Cocu. He was one of the most vocal on here saying Cocu had to go. Why? Because results were bad, performances were poor, the football was unattractive and boring etc etc etc. Both Cocu and Wazza were dealt poor hands, nobody is denying that. Due to the delay in Lampard leaving on taking over Cocu had next to no time in terms of a pre season and no real time to bring in that many new players. We had lost the 3 quality loans and the squad was thin. His remit was to integrate a number of academy players which he did and got them performing well, particularly Jason Knight and Louis Sibley, generating some interest from bigger clubs. Despite these challenges, coming in to March in his first season, Cocu got us on the fringes of the play off places, 5 or 6 wins on the bounce. He too was hit by injuries and we faltered at the end. I can remember at one point in the WBA away defeat we had 8 or 9 academy players on the pitch during the game, but we still finish 10th. Then we have the very poor start to the new season and Cocu is sacked, something Roy Mac had been demanding for a very long time. We are bottom of the table so one would think that experience would be called for, maybe Steve Mac back to the end of the season, Paul Cook maybe. But no, Mel in his wisdom goes for a rookie manager, a novice with next to no coaching experience and no management experience whatsoever. Wazza is appointed. 
For many the alarm bells are ringing. What transpires? Wazza, despite an initial bounce (perhaps it was a coincidence that the period of the bounce coincides with Bielik's return, perhaps that's the cynic in me and Cocu had no Bielik), gradually we see results and performances deteriorate, there seems no leadership on or off the pitch, Wazza doesn't seem to have a Plan B like other Managers (eg Bowyer), he seems tactically inept, he puts a reserve side out away at Cardiff, fails to use substitutes effectively, openly criticises players. So where does Wazza's leadership leave us? One win in 14 games, six losses on the bounce, on the brink of relegation. So my simple question to Roy Mac is surely the same logic for you being very vocal on here in calling for Cocu to go now applies to Wazza, if not more so? His record is actually worse than Cocu's. I ask you Roy Mac, have results improved, have performances improved, can you see a style of play developing, are we good to watch, has he successfully brought on the youngsters? Why when using the same criteria did you repeatedly call for Cocu to go but now are one of the last man standing in wanting Wazza to stay? Just answer me and we can move on...

Agree with every word. 
I'd eat humble pie all day every day if Rooney is a long term success at Derby.

This in abundance.
Right now I very much want him gone whatever happens. But, if he's here next season, I'll be hoping for him to succeed. I want every match to be the start of a never ending golden age.

Contract terminated as soon as the final whistle sounds. Let’s hope. ?

People are saying he deserves financial backing. People are saying he deserves a transfer window. People are saying he deserves his own hand-picked coaching team.
If it had been a closely contested battle all the way down to the last day, I could understand this point.
If Rotherham and Wednesday had produced incredible form to keep us in danger, I could understand this point.
But it wasn’t always close. At the end of February, we were 9 points clear of Rotherham and 10 points clear of Wednesday. It’s down to 2 and 3 points respectively now.
But Rotherham and Wednesday haven’t produced incredible form. Wednesday have picked up 12 points in 13 games since. Rotherham have picked up 12 points in 14 games.
For us, it has been a capitulation of the highest order and any signs of optimism from Rooney’s early tenure have vanished faster than a burger from my plate. 
And some of us want to reward Rooney with more time in the job? I can’t believe what I am reading.

But he’s learning Andicis, he’s learning.....what he is learning I have no idea whatsoever but Roy Mac thinks he is learning.....

It's unfair to expect the Manager of a football club to take responsibility for results and performances on the pitch??????????? In that case why sack Cocu????

Perhaps some fans were willing to give Cocu a bit of time as under the circumstances he had done quite well in his first season. I was one of the last man standing in support of Cocu but could understand the reasons why a lot of fans wanted him gone and accepted it in the end. What I totally fail to understand is fans that wanted Cocu out but somehow still want Rooney in......can't for the life of me get my head around that total contradiction.....

Who has had half a season??? Bit confused who you are referring to....Wazza will have had 35 games.....

Perhaps some fans were willing to give Cocu a bit of time as under the circumstances he had done quite well in his first season. I was one of the last man standing in support of Cocu but could understand the reasons why a lot of fans wanted him gone and accepted it in the end. What I totally fail to understand is fans that wanted Cocu out but somehow still want Rooney in......can't for the life of me get my head around that total contradiction.....

I agree Roy Mac has been consistent in his support for Wazza, but the whole point is that that is totally inconsistent and at odds with his stance on Cocu. He was one of the most vocal on here saying Cocu had to go. Why? Because results were bad, performances were poor, the football was unattractive and boring etc etc etc. Both Cocu and Wazza were dealt poor hands, nobody is denying that. Due to the delay in Lampard leaving on taking over Cocu had next to no time in terms of a pre season and no real time to bring in that many new players. We had lost the 3 quality loans and the squad was thin. His remit was to integrate a number of academy players which he did and got them performing well, particularly Jason Knight and Louis Sibley, generating some interest from bigger clubs. Despite these challenges, coming in to March in his first season, Cocu got us on the fringes of the play off places, 5 or 6 wins on the bounce. He too was hit by injuries and we faltered at the end. I can remember at one point in the WBA away defeat we had 8 or 9 academy players on the pitch during the game, but we still finish 10th. Then we have the very poor start to the new season and Cocu is sacked, something Roy Mac had been demanding for a very long time. We are bottom of the table so one would think that experience would be called for, maybe Steve Mac back to the end of the season, Paul Cook maybe. But no, Mel in his wisdom goes for a rookie manager, a novice with next to no coaching experience and no management experience whatsoever. Wazza is appointed. 
For many the alarm bells are ringing. What transpires? Wazza, despite an initial bounce (perhaps it was a coincidence that the period of the bounce coincides with Bielik's return, perhaps that's the cynic in me and Cocu had no Bielik), gradually we see results and performances deteriorate, there seems no leadership on or off the pitch, Wazza doesn't seem to have a Plan B like other Managers (eg Bowyer), he seems tactically inept, he puts a reserve side out away at Cardiff, fails to use substitutes effectively, openly criticises players. So where does Wazza's leadership leave us? One win in 14 games, six losses on the bounce, on the brink of relegation. So my simple question to Roy Mac is surely the same logic for you being very vocal on here in calling for Cocu to go now applies to Wazza, if not more so? His record is actually worse than Cocu's. I ask you Roy Mac, have results improved, have performances improved, can you see a style of play developing, are we good to watch, has he successfully brought on the youngsters? Why when using the same criteria did you repeatedly call for Cocu to go but now are one of the last man standing in wanting Wazza to stay? Just answer me and we can move on...

I agree Roy Mac has been consistent in his support for Wazza, but the whole point is that that is totally inconsistent and at odds with his stance on Cocu. He was one of the most vocal on here saying Cocu had to go. Why? Because results were bad, performances were poor, the football was unattractive and boring etc etc etc. Both Cocu and Wazza were dealt poor hands, nobody is denying that. Due to the delay in Lampard leaving on taking over Cocu had next to no time in terms of a pre season and no real time to bring in that many new players. We had lost the 3 quality loans and the squad was thin. His remit was to integrate a number of academy players which he did and got them performing well, particularly Jason Knight and Louis Sibley, generating some interest from bigger clubs. Despite these challenges, coming in to March in his first season, Cocu got us on the fringes of the play off places, 5 or 6 wins on the bounce. He too was hit by injuries and we faltered at the end. I can remember at one point in the WBA away defeat we had 8 or 9 academy players on the pitch during the game, but we still finish 10th. Then we have the very poor start to the new season and Cocu is sacked, something Roy Mac had been demanding for a very long time. We are bottom of the table so one would think that experience would be called for, maybe Steve Mac back to the end of the season, Paul Cook maybe. But no, Mel in his wisdom goes for a rookie manager, a novice with next to no coaching experience and no management experience whatsoever. Wazza is appointed. 
For many the alarm bells are ringing. What transpires? Wazza, despite an initial bounce (perhaps it was a coincidence that the period of the bounce coincides with Bielik's return, perhaps that's the cynic in me and Cocu had no Bielik), gradually we see results and performances deteriorate, there seems no leadership on or off the pitch, Wazza doesn't seem to have a Plan B like other Managers (eg Bowyer), he seems tactically inept, he puts a reserve side out away at Cardiff, fails to use substitutes effectively, openly criticises players. So where does Wazza's leadership leave us? One win in 14 games, six losses on the bounce, on the brink of relegation. So my simple question to Roy Mac is surely the same logic for you being very vocal on here in calling for Cocu to go now applies to Wazza, if not more so? His record is actually worse than Cocu's. I ask you Roy Mac, have results improved, have performances improved, can you see a style of play developing, are we good to watch, has he successfully brought on the youngsters? Why when using the same criteria did you repeatedly call for Cocu to go but now are one of the last man standing in wanting Wazza to stay? Just answer me and we can move on...

It’s embarrassing enough, please.....

The Rams are in crisis, on and off the pitch, agreed. But a key to any revival is having the right Manager in charge. Rooney has shown he is just not that man......

Perhaps some fans were willing to give Cocu a bit of time as under the circumstances he had done quite well in his first season. I was one of the last man standing in support of Cocu but could understand the reasons why a lot of fans wanted him gone and accepted it in the end. What I totally fail to understand is fans that wanted Cocu out but somehow still want Rooney in......can't for the life of me get my head around that total contradiction.....

I really don’t see what posters are getting their knickers in a twist about. Both are ok but not outstanding. Both have had great games and both have made a number of howlers. Toss of a coin for me....

It’s embarrassing enough, please.....

Perhaps some fans were willing to give Cocu a bit of time as under the circumstances he had done quite well in his first season. I was one of the last man standing in support of Cocu but could understand the reasons why a lot of fans wanted him gone and accepted it in the end. What I totally fail to understand is fans that wanted Cocu out but somehow still want Rooney in......can't for the life of me get my head around that total contradiction.....

Who has had half a season??? Bit confused who you are referring to....Wazza will have had 35 games.....

I agree Roy Mac has been consistent in his support for Wazza, but the whole point is that that is totally inconsistent and at odds with his stance on Cocu. He was one of the most vocal on here saying Cocu had to go. Why? Because results were bad, performances were poor, the football was unattractive and boring etc etc etc. Both Cocu and Wazza were dealt poor hands, nobody is denying that. Due to the delay in Lampard leaving on taking over Cocu had next to no time in terms of a pre season and no real time to bring in that many new players. We had lost the 3 quality loans and the squad was thin. His remit was to integrate a number of academy players which he did and got them performing well, particularly Jason Knight and Louis Sibley, generating some interest from bigger clubs. Despite these challenges, coming in to March in his first season, Cocu got us on the fringes of the play off places, 5 or 6 wins on the bounce. He too was hit by injuries and we faltered at the end. I can remember at one point in the WBA away defeat we had 8 or 9 academy players on the pitch during the game, but we still finish 10th. Then we have the very poor start to the new season and Cocu is sacked, something Roy Mac had been demanding for a very long time. We are bottom of the table so one would think that experience would be called for, maybe Steve Mac back to the end of the season, Paul Cook maybe. But no, Mel in his wisdom goes for a rookie manager, a novice with next to no coaching experience and no management experience whatsoever. Wazza is appointed. 
For many the alarm bells are ringing. What transpires? Wazza, despite an initial bounce (perhaps it was a coincidence that the period of the bounce coincides with Bielik's return, perhaps that's the cynic in me and Cocu had no Bielik), gradually we see results and performances deteriorate, there seems no leadership on or off the pitch, Wazza doesn't seem to have a Plan B like other Managers (eg Bowyer), he seems tactically inept, he puts a reserve side out away at Cardiff, fails to use substitutes effectively, openly criticises players. So where does Wazza's leadership leave us? One win in 14 games, six losses on the bounce, on the brink of relegation. So my simple question to Roy Mac is surely the same logic for you being very vocal on here in calling for Cocu to go now applies to Wazza, if not more so? His record is actually worse than Cocu's. I ask you Roy Mac, have results improved, have performances improved, can you see a style of play developing, are we good to watch, has he successfully brought on the youngsters? Why when using the same criteria did you repeatedly call for Cocu to go but now are one of the last man standing in wanting Wazza to stay? Just answer me and we can move on...

I said it Tuesday, I said it yesterday, I’ll say it today and I’ll say it tomorrow. Regardless of the weekend result he needs to go. Saying he has been hindered by the coaching staff is ridiculous. If he’s not man enough to demand his own staff when accepting the job that’s in him. Everyone knew bar WR himself he should have looked to appoint an experienced no2. 
 
The fact he hasn’t been able to get the team to get over the line in the last 12 games speaks volumes itself. 

In what way ''didn't he anticipate it being like this'' he knew the exact position when we took the job, in fact he was one of the reasons Cocu got fired with his dreadful performances, so let's not use that excuse for him. Cocu got these players 10th. Without Bielik. If Cocu who ''failed with this group'' can do that, why can't Rooney? 
Why are the players going backwards? 
It's Rooney. We'd look better overnight without him.