Eatonram

I'm so glad our debts aren't as high as £2m, with no points deductions, no 30 month long embargo, no EFL fine and no parasites claiming against my club. We're so fortunate.

Lets say for the sake of arguement that Boro would "accept" £3m (how kind of them). This overlooks the fact that, in insolvency law, this does not represent a "debt" that the administrators can legally pay, particularly if it had to be Paid as a football debt at 100% when other creditors (like HMRC) are likely to be forced to accept 25%. It is just not possible for the Admins to bung Gibson cash to go away. Can you not get this??? Seriously??

Lets say for the sake of arguement that Boro would "accept" £3m (how kind of them). This overlooks the fact that, in insolvency law, this does not represent a "debt" that the administrators can legally pay, particularly if it had to be Paid as a football debt at 100% when other creditors (like HMRC) are likely to be forced to accept 25%. It is just not possible for the Admins to bung Gibson cash to go away. Can you not get this??? Seriously??

Obviously doesn't understand you or the law. #COYR

Following Gibson threat (as you refer to it), the EFL is now actually going against their own rule which states that member clubs cannot take action against each other with regards to breaches of P&S regulations. Only the League can take such action, which they already have done. So what has Gibson got on the EFL that they are prepared to break their own rules?

Lets say for the sake of arguement that Boro would "accept" £3m (how kind of them). This overlooks the fact that, in insolvency law, this does not represent a "debt" that the administrators can legally pay, particularly if it had to be Paid as a football debt at 100% when other creditors (like HMRC) are likely to be forced to accept 25%. It is just not possible for the Admins to bung Gibson cash to go away. Can you not get this??? Seriously??

Lets say for the sake of arguement that Boro would "accept" £3m (how kind of them). This overlooks the fact that, in insolvency law, this does not represent a "debt" that the administrators can legally pay, particularly if it had to be Paid as a football debt at 100% when other creditors (like HMRC) are likely to be forced to accept 25%. It is just not possible for the Admins to bung Gibson cash to go away. Can you not get this??? Seriously??

Lets say for the sake of arguement that Boro would "accept" £3m (how kind of them). This overlooks the fact that, in insolvency law, this does not represent a "debt" that the administrators can legally pay, particularly if it had to be Paid as a football debt at 100% when other creditors (like HMRC) are likely to be forced to accept 25%. It is just not possible for the Admins to bung Gibson cash to go away. Can you not get this??? Seriously??

The reason Boro will not even go to arbitration, never mind the High Court, is that an LAP produces a report of its conclusions that goes into the public domain. The report is likely to be very damning of the Boro case and will raise questions about their motives and delays. This will be hard for the great Ego to take, looking like the "bad guy"
He will eventually, after maximum damage to the admins and DCFC, drop the claim and say he didn't want to see a founder member of the Football League go to the wall........
In the meantime we are powerless and so are the Admins......The EFL however, could do something if they grow a pair.

Lets say for the sake of arguement that Boro would "accept" £3m (how kind of them). This overlooks the fact that, in insolvency law, this does not represent a "debt" that the administrators can legally pay, particularly if it had to be Paid as a football debt at 100% when other creditors (like HMRC) are likely to be forced to accept 25%. It is just not possible for the Admins to bung Gibson cash to go away. Can you not get this??? Seriously??

The reason Boro will not even go to arbitration, never mind the High Court, is that an LAP produces a report of its conclusions that goes into the public domain. The report is likely to be very damning of the Boro case and will raise questions about their motives and delays. This will be hard for the great Ego to take, looking like the "bad guy"
He will eventually, after maximum damage to the admins and DCFC, drop the claim and say he didn't want to see a founder member of the Football League go to the wall........
In the meantime we are powerless and so are the Admins......The EFL however, could do something if they grow a pair.

Boro will never go to court. I doubt they will even go to EFL arbitration. They are looking for a "settlement" and are using delay to try to extort a settlement. If they form the view that a settlement is virtually impossible, they will drop the claim and try to claim some high ground saying they are helping a fellow club in distress.
In the meantime they will stay schtum.

As I said yesterday, Boro/Wycombe will almost certainly do and say nothing. That is their strongest weapon, whilst the EFL impotantly wring their hands. 
Boro/Wycombe will only move if offered money. If offered money it legitimises their claim and we will forever be labelled cheats. If offered money then real creditors will be disadvantaged and in any case it would probably expose the Admins to legal action against them. This is why Boro/Wyc will simply sit there and do nothing because unless the EFL change position, the impasse remains.
EXTORTION, EXTORTION, EXTORTION, EXTORTION

No, he's not being portrayed as a villain for pointing out our cheating. But while he's at that can his solicitors come and sort us out for our losses to QPR and Villa. We forgot to cry about it
I think he's being portrayed as the villain because he continues his pathetic war after Morris has gone and we lost 21 points, people lost jobs, players sold and we can't move forward because of him. 
That would probably tip the balance. 

Morris is the reason we are in administration. Gibson is the reason we can't get out of it. 
Expediting his claims and getting them heard may be the pragmatic solution, but let's be clear: I (and most Derby fans) think these claims are spurious, completely unprecedented (no club has ever "sued" another over P+S breaches), motivated by personal malice, and being exploited by Gibson to mete out his own personal "punishment" to a club facing liquidation.  

He'll only accept it if it goes through the EFL's arbitration system, not a proper legal system.
If he didn't want our club to go out of business there would be no claim, or there would be claims against other clubs too. There would be no hiding behind EFL processes.

So, in effect we (Derby in administration) are powerless to speed up the sale of the club. We are completely tied up in a thousand knots. Unfortunately then I think the only way forward is for the administrators to cut through the crap, say enough is enough and threaten liquidation by publishing a forward date to do so. If that doesn't force the issue nothing will and if DCFC do go under the EFL & the parasites will have to deal with the almighty row and stink that will surely be levelled at them.
All we can do as fans is what we have been doing, support the team on the pitch (not bothered which entity owns them) whether that be in the championship, league 1, league 2 or versus the Dog & Duck pub side.
No way should we pay the parasites a single penny. Ive had enough I'm afraid.

The reason Boro will not even go to arbitration, never mind the High Court, is that an LAP produces a report of its conclusions that goes into the public domain. The report is likely to be very damning of the Boro case and will raise questions about their motives and delays. This will be hard for the great Ego to take, looking like the "bad guy"
He will eventually, after maximum damage to the admins and DCFC, drop the claim and say he didn't want to see a founder member of the Football League go to the wall........
In the meantime we are powerless and so are the Admins......The EFL however, could do something if they grow a pair.

Boro will never go to court. I doubt they will even go to EFL arbitration. They are looking for a "settlement" and are using delay to try to extort a settlement. If they form the view that a settlement is virtually impossible, they will drop the claim and try to claim some high ground saying they are helping a fellow club in distress.
In the meantime they will stay schtum.

Boro will never go to court. I doubt they will even go to EFL arbitration. They are looking for a "settlement" and are using delay to try to extort a settlement. If they form the view that a settlement is virtually impossible, they will drop the claim and try to claim some high ground saying they are helping a fellow club in distress.
In the meantime they will stay schtum.

As I said yesterday, Boro/Wycombe will almost certainly do and say nothing. That is their strongest weapon, whilst the EFL impotantly wring their hands. 
Boro/Wycombe will only move if offered money. If offered money it legitimises their claim and we will forever be labelled cheats. If offered money then real creditors will be disadvantaged and in any case it would probably expose the Admins to legal action against them. This is why Boro/Wyc will simply sit there and do nothing because unless the EFL change position, the impasse remains.
EXTORTION, EXTORTION, EXTORTION, EXTORTION

Boro will never go to court. I doubt they will even go to EFL arbitration. They are looking for a "settlement" and are using delay to try to extort a settlement. If they form the view that a settlement is virtually impossible, they will drop the claim and try to claim some high ground saying they are helping a fellow club in distress.
In the meantime they will stay schtum.

Boro will never go to court. I doubt they will even go to EFL arbitration. They are looking for a "settlement" and are using delay to try to extort a settlement. If they form the view that a settlement is virtually impossible, they will drop the claim and try to claim some high ground saying they are helping a fellow club in distress.
In the meantime they will stay schtum.

Boro will never go to court. I doubt they will even go to EFL arbitration. They are looking for a "settlement" and are using delay to try to extort a settlement. If they form the view that a settlement is virtually impossible, they will drop the claim and try to claim some high ground saying they are helping a fellow club in distress.
In the meantime they will stay schtum.

The reason Boro will not even go to arbitration, never mind the High Court, is that an LAP produces a report of its conclusions that goes into the public domain. The report is likely to be very damning of the Boro case and will raise questions about their motives and delays. This will be hard for the great Ego to take, looking like the "bad guy"
He will eventually, after maximum damage to the admins and DCFC, drop the claim and say he didn't want to see a founder member of the Football League go to the wall........
In the meantime we are powerless and so are the Admins......The EFL however, could do something if they grow a pair.