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No matter what the various scenarios are, it is hard to see how liquidation could possibly be a good out come for any of the main players.
1 MM will lose a fortune
2 HMRC will lose a fortune
3 MSD will be left owning a stadium/training ground with no Tennant.
4 Other creditors lose a fortune
5 EFL reputation as a governing body further destroyed
6 Football as a whole loses DCFC, a founder member, likely to hasten structural change even to the PL whether they like it or not.
 
There is not an outcome for any stakeholder that is worse than liquidation, so for this reason alone, I have hope.

No matter what the various scenarios are, it is hard to see how liquidation could possibly be a good out come for any of the main players.
1 MM will lose a fortune
2 HMRC will lose a fortune
3 MSD will be left owning a stadium/training ground with no Tennant.
4 Other creditors lose a fortune
5 EFL reputation as a governing body further destroyed
6 Football as a whole loses DCFC, a founder member, likely to hasten structural change even to the PL whether they like it or not.
 
There is not an outcome for any stakeholder that is worse than liquidation, so for this reason alone, I have hope.

No matter what the various scenarios are, it is hard to see how liquidation could possibly be a good out come for any of the main players.
1 MM will lose a fortune
2 HMRC will lose a fortune
3 MSD will be left owning a stadium/training ground with no Tennant.
4 Other creditors lose a fortune
5 EFL reputation as a governing body further destroyed
6 Football as a whole loses DCFC, a founder member, likely to hasten structural change even to the PL whether they like it or not.
 
There is not an outcome for any stakeholder that is worse than liquidation, so for this reason alone, I have hope.

Not a breakdown......But, Charlton away when they played at Selhurst Park. Arrived in the area about 1.45. In the Pub for beers, asked locals how far to the ground, the answer "5 minutes drive". Left the pub at 2.45, got totally lost, could not find the place even when we could hear it. Got in at 3.25, we had already scored what turned out to be the only goal of the game (Steve Cross). Great day.
A lot of our away days were lake that BITD.

I think we have to be careful with the power of social media at the moment.
lots coming out, but unless it’s from an official source then it’s rumour and conjecture. 
 
journalists are paid to sell print, I doubt if any have the full picture and fill the blanks in with gossip.
I personally think we will have a new owner but the most important thing at the moment is to support the team

I wouldn't stop supporting them....would you?

The Club leaving Pride Park would be a mistake we would rue for the next 20 years.
I have no problem it being leased/rented. Owning the stadium is fairly secondary IMO opinion as long as it is our "home" and we have legal protections over being always able to play the

It would be a big reduction but, I’d like to think we’d get more than just a couple of thousand. (Macclesfield get 2-3000 in the North West Counties league). Provided it was affordable, it would be worth putting up with. Personally, I think a Phoenix club playing outside of Derby would see a much bigger drop in attendances than one remaining at what is now “our ground”. Staying at PP maintains that link with the old club IMO. 
 
If a Derby county team were able to stay at PP, I’d definitely still turn up and renew my season ticket. I’m not sure if I would if the Phoenix club played at some of the grounds mentioned (Stoke, Port Vale, Leicester, Notts County or Chesterfield. I probably would if they played at Burton but, only to my shame, because it would be convenient). I suspect I may not be alone.

I wouldn't stop supporting them....would you?

The Club leaving Pride Park would be a mistake we would rue for the next 20 years.
I have no problem it being leased/rented. Owning the stadium is fairly secondary IMO opinion as long as it is our "home" and we have legal protections over being always able to play the

The Club leaving Pride Park would be a mistake we would rue for the next 20 years.
I have no problem it being leased/rented. Owning the stadium is fairly secondary IMO opinion as long as it is our "home" and we have legal protections over being always able to play the

My friend has not long left of his life, He has terminal cancer and has maybe only weeks to live.  He had his first season ticket when he came out of the army in the mid fifties, and has had it every season since, and then when he married in 1963 his wife had one too, they never missed a home match, but then covid came along and they have not been again. We have a mutual friend who lives in the USA he is in the UK this week end and is taking my friend to what is likely to be his last match ever. I'm just hoping if there are any protests it wont affect the match. So please spare a thought or a prayer if your so minded on Saturday. I wont say his name as he hated social media as much as he loved the Rams. So UP THE RAMS  P will be thinking of you.  

The Club leaving Pride Park would be a mistake we would rue for the next 20 years.
I have no problem it being leased/rented. Owning the stadium is fairly secondary IMO opinion as long as it is our "home" and we have legal protections over being always able to play the

The Club leaving Pride Park would be a mistake we would rue for the next 20 years.
I have no problem it being leased/rented. Owning the stadium is fairly secondary IMO opinion as long as it is our "home" and we have legal protections over being always able to play the

The Club leaving Pride Park would be a mistake we would rue for the next 20 years.
I have no problem it being leased/rented. Owning the stadium is fairly secondary IMO opinion as long as it is our "home" and we have legal protections over being always able to play the

The Club leaving Pride Park would be a mistake we would rue for the next 20 years.
I have no problem it being leased/rented. Owning the stadium is fairly secondary IMO opinion as long as it is our "home" and we have legal protections over being always able to play the

The Club leaving Pride Park would be a mistake we would rue for the next 20 years.
I have no problem it being leased/rented. Owning the stadium is fairly secondary IMO opinion as long as it is our "home" and we have legal protections over being always able to play the

Yeah pretty much 
Quantuma make very good money from IP appointments. Why on earth would they put their licence at risk ? It just makes no sense 

I’ve wondered for some time if Mels wealth has been overstated. 

Just a couple of thoughts. I don’t think Mel Morris did necessarily think he was being clever selling the ground; it became a needs must to avoid FFP sanction. I also don’t think the transaction actually created any new cash going into the club. My opinion, for what worth, is that it simply offset previous loans he had made.
Now depending on what Morris does next, he could actually have done us a favour. If the ground was still in the ownership of the Club, I doubt creditors, in particular HMRC, would be twiddling their thumbs waiting to see if they might get 25%. Morris having control of the ground prevents them appointing a receiver for the Stadium and recovering perhaps all their monies.
But, it all comes back to Morris. It always has done, despite the many posters who mocked me in previous months - water off a ducks back though. He has significant/too much control of this situation. It is the price and terms to be paid for the stadium that is holding everything up. Q are ‘simply’ at the moment trying to find the sweet spot between what the PB’s will pay for it and what Morris (and MSD) will accept. It is within Morris’s gift to make this more straightforward. We shall see.

I keep saying Mel has made loads of mistakes but to suggest the EFL haven’t had it in for DCFC  and Mel Morris is inaccurate IMO.
The other narratives are Boro and Wycombe making claims against th club/MM 
 

But Kircner will inherit their debt whereas ours would be cleared. Frankly the squad is irrelevant as we would not pay fees for new players and it gives us a chance to sign players on sustainable contracts. Derby in the long term are a far more attractive proposition than PNE at 40m

But Kircner will inherit their debt whereas ours would be cleared. Frankly the squad is irrelevant as we would not pay fees for new players and it gives us a chance to sign players on sustainable contracts. Derby in the long term are a far more attractive proposition than PNE at 40m

Binnies offered £30 million for the stadium and the club. A stadium that normally has twice the Preston gate. 
 
I don’t think Preston squad is worth more than ours tbh. Even if we only had five players. 

I’ve wondered for some time if Mels wealth has been overstated.