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3 minutes ago, RamNut said:
Not sure about that tbh. Safety v Liberty.
We already have provision to restrain people who are a danger to others.
In contrast to your story, I have known (and still know) many gentle souls who have been restrained and drugged against their will, often because there isn't the provision to support them in any other way.
In addition, I worked for Mind for 12 years at a drop in which had around 50 visitors a day. I never met one person who felt they had been done anything but harm by the experience of being sectioned.
The kinds of cases you mention are not a benchmark by which to determine the treatment of everyone, and in my experience they form a tiny minority of those who find themselves in the psychiatric system.
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On 04/01/2019 at 08:42, ronnieronalde said:
Sectioned for his own safety? Who gets to decide that is keeping him safe? What if It's prolonging an agony he doesn't want to feel, it's others judging that he's made a mistake in not wanting to carry on
Absolutely agree. It's an abuse of power to take away someone's liberty, dignity and autonomy when they have committed no crime
One day we will look back on the psychiatric system with the same horror we currently reserve for the Victorian madhouse.
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Can't tell you about it.
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1 minute ago, rynny said:
Alternatively you could await for a moderator to be able to look at the post, and decide whether or not it can be approved, without the need to get all snotty.
It was suggested by David that I edit the post.
I suggest that the 'snottiness' did not originate from me.
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4 minutes ago, David said:
This topic is for forum issues for example emojis not working, logging in problems, pages not loading etc. Issues that need fixing.
Until I asked on here I didn't know why my post wasn't working. I asked in good faith; it's not my fault that the answer happened to be yet more censorship.
There was no intention to circumvent the rules, so your suggestion that I go elsewhere is merely a personally directed remark. Isn't that also against the rules?
Thank you for your help.
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Done.
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2 minutes ago, David said:
If you was just to post the Jokanovic part of the post it would not be flagged.
I'll have a look at it again to see if it can be edited and still make sense without the analogy.
Alternatively, I suppose you could just recognise that it's not a political post and approve it?
What a palaver.
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Just now, David said:
We have auto moderation in place for certain words. One of which the political B.
The post was a quote about the reasons why their board are unlikely to appoint someone more innovative like Jokanovic.
The content was not political at all, so your filter is now restricting the discussion of football.
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Tried to post something twice now in the Stoke thread, and it's turned pink and says 'hidden'.
What's going on with that?
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6 minutes ago, AshfieldRam said:
I feel like I’m at the bottom of a pit with no escape and at that point that was the only way out.
The way out is time; this too shall pass. I always liked Jung's saying that problems are rarely solved, they are simply outgrown. Also Freud's comment that the aim of psychoanalysis is to convert neurosis into ordinary human unhappiness. Learning to live with the latter is the stuff of life for most people at some point.
When you're at the bottom, I've found the best help is simply the company of others who understand, and stand by you without judging. Quite often the pressure (from ourselves and others) to 'get better' is part of the problem. The best therapy is just 'being with', so you don't face that place alone.
- Norman, i-Ram and AshfieldRam
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I wouldn't set too much store by CBT tbh, but talking therapies are free through your GP, an initial block of 12 sessions with the possibility of referral for a further 12. Depending on where you are, there are also voluntary sector providers like DRCS, which are pretty good.
Do you have a sense of what it is that is making you feel like you can't carry on? Trying to think it through honestly yourself can help, even better if you can share it with friends/ family/ partner.
Hang in there. These things do go in cycles, so while it may feel like a downward curve now, that won't last indefinitely. Recovery is always possible, so don't give up!
- CWC1983, Carnero, Comrade 86 and 1 other
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5 hours ago, RamNut said:
Maybe our early dependency on our parents leads us to the false expectation that others can be similarly relied upon to care or to help.
Early dependence on parents is necessary for survival and development. It's more the case that inadequate or absent parental nurturing leads to neediness and over reliance on others, from not having developed the feeling of being safe in the world.
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@Moist One Don't be alone over Christmas if you don't want to be. Pm me anytime if you fancy a pint.
Ps Obviously, you'd have to be really desperate!
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6 hours ago, David said:
Trippy? Think someone is sticking something in your cider and it’s not apples
It's a very different experience to beer or wine.
Gin is similar.
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3 hours ago, David said:
there is one drink, one drink which really is not suitable for human consumption and that’s cider
I'm sure we've had this conversation before, but proper cider is out of this world. The most mellow, trippy, delightful intoxication, with no ill effects, because there's nothing nasty or chemical in it.
You cannot compare the experience with youthful vomitfests on white lightning; it's night and day.
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4 hours ago, BathRam72 said:
I love real ale, never tried oraft ale though
No, nor me, and I'm slightly suspicious of the whole concept. The fact that some of it seems to be keg beer is very off putting.
I like Bass or Pedigree served flat out of the barrel, so if craft beer is something fizzed up through a pipe, I don't want to know.
It's definitely got a whiff of hipster about it.
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1 hour ago, 1of4 said:
Do they do any exchange deals, vinyl for beer? As I've got a lot of 78s I never listen to anymore.
It never hurts to ask.
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26 minutes ago, David said:
Have you bought a book of the oddest pubs in Britain to go on tour?
No, but I could probably write one.
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1 hour ago, David said:
Hold on, as that bloke just turned up to the pub for a pint with his turntable? ?
The pub is also a record shop.
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Vinyl night. In a pub. It's almost as if there's no limit to my personal decadence.
Depression, anxiety, stress and other related issues
in The Jim Smith Room
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Can't comment on your example, obviously, except to say that I'm dubious about 'no warning signs at all'.
Apart from that, I can only reiterate the point I've already made; that I'm not talking about the restraint of people who are a danger to others, I'm saying if you use that as a benchmark for everyone, you do untold harm to the majority who are no threat to anyone.