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Can someone put their foot on the ball, get a grip & slow it down please 🤣

I will care if we lose 3-1.

Max Bird, Thunderbolt. 1-0

I haven’t been concerned or worried all week but now I’ve turned the tv on I feel sick. Hope we can all enjoy the game.

If that's what we're working to, football is dead. VAR has to go. I'm not sure I could stand the Prem any more.

VAR will be in the Championship before long, too. Football just seems to get less enjoyable as seasons go on, I don't know if I would want to be in the PL either.
If you don't spend enough, you get battered, if you spend too much, you get punished. Oh and the only way to avoid punishment is to sell your best players to the top 6 to avoid more sanctions. Every season finishing 17th is a positive.
I'd much rather the big clubs f***** off to the Super League, take their VAR with them, let football go back to how it used to be.

Yeah you can never be sure if the action has been stopped at precisely the right moment or not.  But if you introduce a margin of error, won't the debate just switch to whether the toenail was within the margin of error line or not, rather than whether it was ahead or behind the last defender?  Whatever criterion is used, whether it's offside by any amount, margin or error or 'clear daylight' between the players, the decision will often come down to judgement calls based on millimetres. 
I'd be happy to bin VAR altogether and go back to best guess by the officials.  At least then people could go back to celebrating goals naturally when they occur.  

I think there should be something akin to the "umpire's call" in cricket. If the margin by which they are offside is so small that no human could possibly tell the difference by the naked eye, then the decision goes the way the linesman called it. If that means making the lines a bit thicker or something else, then so be it.  Other elements of VAR are there to (apparently) correct clear and obvious errors.  While offside is factual, the decision today was not a clear and obvious error; he wasn't standing a foot offside and the linesman was asleep, it was millimetres.  Allow for a small margin of error.  
As someone on Twitter said "I am VAR, destroyer of dreams!".  Not how it should be.

That’s true. And I accept that wherever you draw the line, there will be millimetre decisions. 
My point was that this isn’t what the offside rule was for. It was to prevent persistent goal hanging with a defending team just hoofing the ball up to a player who was dawdling near the goal. 
This seems to be against the spirit of that. 

It should be… if any part of the attacker is onside, they are  onside. Would feel a lot more acceptable getting rulers out for this than the current situation. 

I really hope that we get promoted on Saturday but I’m not sure that I want to ever go back to the premier league. Never being able to properly celebrate a goal until all checks are complete is not what football is about (for me, anyway). 

Coventry goal against Manchester United. Attacker’s left little toe nail was 1/2cm closer to the goal.
Surely that isn’t what the offside rule is for? 

Indeed. Mods should lock this thread, discussion and promotion of illegal activity is not appropriate on this forum imo.

I assume he means Simpson being manager of Carlisle, not Warne don’t worry 

Best away season ever in our history??

We haven't won this many away from home when we've played at this level previously, so it's important not to underplayed it as an achievement just because some people have an opinion about the manager or the style of play

Except the clean sheet? 

With our worst ever manager apparently. How the he'll did that happen

Best away season ever in our history??

Best away season ever in our history??

Some of us are 🙄

This is not a step forward at all, it stifles competition and turns it into a closed shop for the benefit of Sky. Shame on the EFL for signing such a deal. and shame on the clubs for agreeing to it also.
I will continue to subscribe to Rams TV, my overseas trips currently cost me £5 per month 🙂 Will sky be showing all matches live like Rams TV does? I doubt it! I won't give my money to Sky TV on principle.
All fans should boycott Sky TV, they are destroying football in my opinion.

Nothing would be more derbyesque than a 40 page argument about how we should be allowed to celebrate before promptly losing to Cambridge and Carlisle. Why don’t we simply not worry about it and act accordingly when/if the time happens. And by accordingly I mean alcohol. 

I don't think the fanbase is that divided - at the match there's plenty of pro-warne chants for example. A few posters on here give the impression of a split fanbase, but the reality is different. It's like reading twitter and thinking the world is mental, whereas in reality you've just stumbled across some nutters in the village square.

The job Warne has done, since Stevenage away, has been exemplary.
You cannot play one touch 50 pass moves with league 1 players. Not feasible. If we blow it, and have to face up to another season down here, Warne is definitely the man to rebuild us and go again.
If we go up, he will have earnt the right to build a Championship squad and have a go at keeping us up, as per his original brief.
I know he's marmite, with his off-beat personality profile, but he's clearly an honest and genuine man and it's hard to see a nice guy cop for abuse.